Should we keep Ranieri as manager?

[Clever Fox]

Yes we were scouting Musa and he is a good player I'm personally not sure if he's up to the Physicality of the Premiership. But he hasn't been given a real chance yet either and the few he has been given is out on the left wing. I think he would do much better playing closer to Slimani in the centre. But results haven't allowed us the luxury to even try it out yet. It may also be that he didn't agree with the valuations being paid for Musa or Slim as they both now look overpriced but time will tell.

 We might never know the whole story as he probably signed a golden handcuffs agreement on Departure. It just strikes me as strange that in our greatest ever year and just after signing a new Contract he suddenly wants out. I'll also add that I don't know him or too my knowledge have I ever met him.

No Scout or Manager gets every signing right as until you work up close with someone only then do you find out what their really made of. But Walsh's record is as good as or better than most, Why else did Arsenal and Spurs try to poach him away from us. Also  he brought Drogba, Makele etc to Chelsea all proven talent. The facts about Kante and Mendy is also true because CR said so himself. We also know he wanted us to sign Gueye in the Summer, And I think even before he signed for Villa.

[Clever Fox]

32 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Is Gueye really a 'star' for Everton? He's been ok, done pretty well but Everton ain't much really are they?

Dont get me wrong, he's miles better than King or Amartey IMO, but 'a star'? Nah not really.

I suppose it depends on what you call a '' Star '' But from talking to some Everton Fans their really pleased with him. He also got MOTM in a few games and is always high up in the Stats.

You're also right he is better than what we have at present. Which begs the question who is making the decisions on signings now and further evidence of why Walsh left. 

[Shaggy]

I would imagine Rudkin as a big say in it,wasn't he in charge of the academy,don't think NP got on to well with him

[Webbo]

1 hour ago, Shaggy said:

I would imagine Rudkin as a big say in it,wasn't he in charge of the academy,don't think NP got on to well with him

This is the problem, too much imagination. Nobody's sure what Rudkin does but they all imagine all the bad things are his fault, nobody ever imagines the successes are down to him though.

[desertfox2]

Has Ranieri ever been relegated in his managerial career, and if so when was the last time?

 

Haven't had a chance to scroll through everything. Interested to know if anyone has the answer to hand.

 

Cheers

[Clever Fox]

14 hours ago, Shaggy said:

I would imagine Rudkin as a big say in it,wasn't he in charge of the academy,don't think NP got on to well with him

Yes he was in charge of the Academy and it's reported that he and NP didn't get on together. But that's irrelevant to where we are now. I'd say he does have a say in who we sign, But here's the problem who chooses the players and does he have the final say, Or does he have the experience and ability to choose players. Everyone has opinions of who are good players but choosing the right ones to fit the needs of the Team can be a different matter. What part does CR play in all of this.Or is there a panel of people who decides. Maybe some of the ITKs could shed a bit of light on this.

 

12 hours ago, Webbo said:

This is the problem, too much imagination. Nobody's sure what Rudkin does but they all imagine all the bad things are his fault, nobody ever imagines the successes are down to him though.

  To be fair I don't think anyone accused him of anything. We're just trying to figure out what's gone wrong, and you have to question that a lot of it has happened since his promotion. Good luck to him I'm all for promoting from within provided they have the ability to do the job. But someone at the Club has ignored the shortcomings of the Team and overpaid for some of the players we have signed.

Here is another way of looking at it. We had a policy of finding and signing players which had a future sell on Value at a profit. Now it seems we're signing players with little or no chance of recovering our outlay never mind a profit. I'm thinking of Bennaloune, Hernandez,Musa, Slimani. Now that's a serious change in policy and someone has to be responsible for it.

 As I've said previously these are expensive lessons and could potentially end up with us being relegated.

[Webbo]

6 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

 

 

  To be fair I don't think anyone accused him of anything. We're just trying to figure out what's gone wrong, and you have to question that a lot of it has happened since his promotion. Good luck to him I'm all for promoting from within provided they have the ability to do the job. But someone at the Club has ignored the shortcomings of the Team and overpaid for some of the players we have signed.

Here is another way of looking at it. We had a policy of finding and signing players which had a future sell on Value at a profit. Now it seems we're signing players with little or no chance of recovering our outlay never mind a profit. I'm thinking of Bennaloune, Hernandez,Musa, Slimani. Now that's a serious change in policy and someone has to be responsible for it.

 As I've said previously these are expensive lessons and could potentially end up with us being relegated.

Have we won the league since his promotion?

[Clever Fox]

46 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Have we won the league since his promotion?

Your not seriously suggesting he had anything to do with us winning the league last year.Nothing could be further from the truth.

[Webbo]

19 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Your not seriously suggesting he had anything to do with us winning the league last year.Nothing could be further from the truth.

So he has so much power that he's responsible for all the bad things but he had nothing to do with any success?

[norwichfox]

14 hours ago, Webbo said:

This is the problem, too much imagination. Nobody's sure what Rudkin does but they all imagine all the bad things are his fault, nobody ever imagines the successes are down to him though.

True, according to the Mercury He is our "Transfers Mastermind" since the Jan '15 window......maybe this is why there is such an emphasis on youth as he was/is Academy Director alongside his Director of Football role.

[Strokes]

14 hours ago, Webbo said:

This is the problem, too much imagination. Nobody's sure what Rudkin does but they all imagine all the bad things are his fault, nobody ever imagines the successes are down to him though.

If only there was a word or term that could be used to describe this frequent occurrence.

[HighPeakFox]

40 minutes ago, Strokes said:

If only there was a word or term that could be used to describe this frequent occurrence.

... Embarrassing...? 

 

[MPH]

49 minutes ago, Webbo said:

So he has so much power that he's responsible for all the bad things but he had nothing to do with any success?

 

 

Well lets look at the success? Player recruitment? Stave Walsh ( now gone) Tactics? Ranieri.

 

It could be argued that negotiating contracts he can be credited for but they were pretty standard lthe season before last?

 

 

[Clever Fox]

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

So he has so much power that he's responsible for all the bad things but he had nothing to do with any success?

What possible contribution could he have made to our winning the league. He was only appointed when the season was already half over. As to what power he has now I have no idea as to how far his powers extend.  All I'll say is our problems only appear to be happening since his appointment when clearly policy has changed and we've lost our best Scout.

 Whether he has any responsibility for any of it I just don't know. All I'll say is usually when you add different ingredients you get a different cake.

 

By the way I'm not having a go a Rudkin as I don't know him. It's his Office and whoever holds that seat. I'm merely trying to understand what has changed to have us struggle when we really should have been cementing our top ten position in the league.

[Webbo]

This thread has made the Mail;

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one statistic revealed this week is indicative of how things have changed. When asked by fans website Foxes Talk whether Claudio Ranieri should be retained as manager, only 52 per cent of supporters responded in the affirmative.

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4074412/Everything-right-Leicester-season-wrong-Foxes-collapsed-quickly.html#ixzz4ULcbbmHy 
 

[MPH]

20 minutes ago, Webbo said:

This thread has made the Mail;

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4074412/Everything-right-Leicester-season-wrong-Foxes-collapsed-quickly.html#ixzz4ULcbbmHy 
 

 

 

ooo Err!

[Guest Lako42]

Well done fickle ****tards.........national recognition for your short sighted reactionism. 

 

How unrefreshing we are

[ealingfox]

Classic Mail lying about the percentage.

[Strokes]

Great now the whole country know what a bunch of shitheads you all are. 

[Soar Fox]

34 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Well done fickle ****tards.........national recognition for your short sighted reactionism. 

 

How unrefreshing we are

 the state of this.

[Guest Lako42]

5 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

 the state of this.

The state of us.

 

 

Granted, the cross section of 440 fans is misleading

[MPH]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

Classic Mail lying about the percentage.

 

 

In fairness,  it was at 52 point something percent at one stage yesterday....

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Well done fickle ****tards.........national recognition for your short sighted reactionism. 

 

How unrefreshing we are

 

 

Blame me. I asked for opinions.

[adejo92]

Mwahaha

[HankMarvin]

2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

Well done fickle ****tards.........national recognition for your short sighted reactionism. 

 

How unrefreshing we are

 

2 hours ago, Strokes said:

Great now the whole country know what a bunch of shitheads you all are. 

shame "shitheads and ****tards" like you kept the percentage high, could've got the article higher up their page