Keep Ranieri

[Skippy]

Claudio inherited a team in cracking form, full of spirit and determination and then (apparently) reluctantly slotted into midfield the most phenomenal  player ever to pull on a city shirt. There wasn’t a need for a technical mastermind last season, the formula was absolutely flawless, we just needed a manager that wasn’t prepared to meddle too much. CR was surprisingly perfect for us LAST YEAR because he recognised all the positives and simply did not meddle with the inherited winning setup and consequently reaped the results. The man thoroughly deserves his winners medal for simply not doing much in the way of tinkering. I’m chuffed for him, he’s one of the hero’s, he helped us live the dream, but all that is in the past.

 

Now the formula is well and truely broken and lets face it has been since very early in the season, it’s been down to him to create a new winning or at very least a competitive formula which he has totally failed at. His tinkering was required months ago but the old fool failed to see the wood for the trees. The defence and midfield needed an overhaul and our tactics needed to radically change, it was plain as day for goodness sake. Finally he begins meddling and it’s a horror show, in the meantime the players have developed a chronic loosing mentality and it’s crippling them. CR is not capable of changing things for the better. He’s revealed to everyone he has lost or hasn’t got the technical knowhow to get the team winning again and he’s also unable to reverse the negative mentality of the players so why on earth would it be a good idea to have him continue to manage us like this? CR is not a demigod, he’s someone who last season was in the right place at the right time and essentiually rode the crest of the wave the players created through their hard work. 

 

Claudio needs to resign ASAP to retain the respect he deserves for his contribution last season, if he takes us down he’ll become a villain to most instead of retaining his hero status.  I want to see him gone sooner rather than later for the good of everyone. I hold my breath.

[Tuna]

It's a desperately sad situation really, the reality is we're going down as things stand, and the facts are the results speak for themselves. Ranieri isn't getting the results and in this business, you're never far away from the sack.

 

Claudio should go now with dignity with his record intact. He goes now he leaves us still in the champions league, fa cup and out of the relegation zone.

 

He may have been stitched up by the players. Who knows what really has gone on. But I'm a Leicester City fan, not a Ranieri fan, and it may be horrible to think in the terms of sacking him but if it means staying up, it's the right decision to make. No business would run themselves into the ground out of sentimentality. The club has to make a sensible business decision. Relegation would be diastrous financially not to mention the unbelievable humiliation we would suffer as a football club and also to King Power in their homeland. You wonder whether they may feel like chucking it in if we went downn with all he money they've invested.

 

We need a fresh approach, fresh ideas. There is an awful lot of rumours swirling around about Ranieri losing the dressing room. No smoke without fire.

 

Whether or not it will be enough is anyone's guess, but these are not bad players, they are good players, with zero confidence and playing badly. But we cannot afford to wait any longer like Newcastle did leaving it too late to sack the wally.

 

A new manager often brings with them a bounce in fortunes. OK not worked with Fat Sam but he's a manager on the down, Silva and Clement are young and hungry and with a point to prove. Look at the impact they have made. Swansea were playing as badly as we were 6 weeks ago, it's not impossible.

 

It's the only decision for me, but whatever happens in the summer the club needs to take a long hard look at itself, from top to bottom and initiate changes because this season has been an absolute shambles.

[crazyleicester]

We dont need a clear out.

 

We have some fantastic younger players coming through in Chilwell, Gray, Ndidi, Amartey and Kapustka. We have some excellent first team players in Kasper, Vardy, Drinky and Slimani whilst Mahrez for me is destined to move on after being loyal to us for one season. I love what he did last season and will never forget that but when you have a player that you know is destined for bigger things, sometimes its best to let him go. If Spurs did it with Bale, United with Ronaldo and Liverpool with Suarez then we must realise the real top players will be difficult to keep.

 

As for Ranieri, I couldnt agree more. I have been defending the bloke on here for a few weeks simply because of last seasons achievements and the fact that he carries himself so well. Also because I feel the players are getting away from criticism and Claudio is getting most of the flack. I was so pleased to listened to the Sky lads who were going on about the players efforts and that Claudio should have a statue outside our stadium and not be talking of sacking him. I was also pleased to hear so many players say that they are backing him in the post match interview and also Claudio clearing up the "players need to go to the chairman" comment which was originally lost in translation.

 

We are not finished yet this season BTW and Im certainly not given it up. For all we know we could end up winning the bloody FA Cup and finishing 6th bottom and we will be in dream land again. 

 

 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

7 hours ago, SpinneyHillRanger said:

At least Ranieri is trying to do his job. He is motivated and knows his reputation is on the line. All the accolades he's received will be washed diluted with failure. He faces up to the media - even though he comes across as clueless many times... To me I see man who is at least showing some emotion or 'fight' as he would put it. 

 

His reputation is on the line so he has to be motivated to do something for the team. What I'm saying is from all the team - logically speaking we would have to say he has to have some motivation for us to do well.

 

The same can't be said about the players....

 

Kasper?- knows if we go down other PL teams will be in for him. Probably has relegation clauses in his new mega contract handed out in the summer too. If we go down he doesn't lose much.

 

Fuchs? In his thirties, was lucky to play in the PL+CL for two seasons when he joined he wanted to go to USA, but now is on a big contract.

 

Simpson ? -drives around sports car when doing his community service. Appears on TV shows at any opportunity. Love's the fame, has a better contract that he has ever thought he could get. Has won the PL what more can he do in football. No motivation to do well.

 

Huth and Morgan both in their thirties and lost more than a yard of pace. Both out of form. But both handed long contracts according to their ages. Set for a nice retirment fund. No motivation for us to do well. Maybe Morgan as captain could be a bit embarrassed, but he shamelessly hasn't taken a rest for two years now. He needs to realise what's best for LCFC.

 

Same goes for okazaki, Albrighton, Drinkwater.

 

Mahrez and vardy issues are well known too.

 

My point, none of the players or spine of the team are showing the motivation they should be. At least with Ranieri we know he is motivated for us to do well. It's the players who have left him down and stabbed him in the back, so they can get someone who they like. Spoilt brats that they are - Kasper, Morgan and drinky take the lion share of the blame there

 

 

Good post generally bud but how do you know them 3 players are mainly to blame? Just asking 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

11 hours ago, sm1 said:

No doubt Claudio is a nice guy but he has shown that he has no idea how to change our form. The same players that let the team down every week are picked without fail. We looked half decent playing 433, so what does Claudio do? Change the system to 532 against Chelsea and get a spanking. What does he do next? Revert back to the 442 system that hasn't worked all season. Being a nice guy doesn't excuse the fact that he's useless. Shakey makes no eye contact with Claudio anymore, the players don't respond to him. I don't know what's going on but Claudio isn't blameless in all of this.

I don't think anyone would say Ranieri or whoever for that matter, is blameless in all this crap 

 

however the the players certainly aren't blameless 

 

nobody is is in all this shitty mess

 

onwards and upwards, let's keep fighting

 

avoid relegation that's the aim

 

come on you Super Foxes. 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

11 hours ago, CKB said:

I love Ranieri and I so desperately want him to get us outta this mess. But I'm afraid I don't think he's tough enough to make huge calls with certain players

 

We all know how this is gonna end.....

Probably you are right

 

but that will be a sad day for football I'm afraid

 

anyway up the Foxes

[norwichfox]

12 hours ago, Bilo said:

 sleepwalking to the Championship out of sentiment.

Spot on with that....

[waylander]

We're Leicester and we're taking the pi$$ . Your all dreaming wait till you wake up we're champions ?

[waylander]

Keep smiling bob top posts?

[Ricey]

Prior to the game I wanted him to stay. The team selection was good and for 40 minutes it was a team working hard and going toe-to-toe with one of the best away teams in the league. Then a goal and we imploded.

 

You could argue that Ranieri is to blame for the fragile mental strength we currently posses, but he isn't telling Huth to totally misjudge a ball, instructing Morgan and Huth to let Zlatan drift into space on the penalty spot nor training Ndidi to switch off and not track Mkhitaryan, then Fuchs to inexplicably play the offside trap. Yesterday, there is little more he could have done. I can't fault him.

 

IF he has totally lost the dressing room, and more importantly the backroom staff, then maybe the owners have no choice. However, if the squad are still behind Ranieri, even if that support is dangling by a thread, then he needs to remain and the players need to look at themselves first before they question the man that guided them to more success than they could have ever dreamt of.

[Bossman Blessed It]

The KP hasn't been as quiet as it was yesterday for a very long time. Even when Hume missed that penalty against Sheff Wed and we were basically doomed, it erupted and the fans showed anger. We look lifeless. It feels soul destroying to watch us play. I think depending on this weeks' results, his time could be numbered. A lot of people are saying that the owners stuck by Pearson when we were in an even worse position. In that scenario, every single player was putting a shift in and we weren't actually playing bad football at all, just not getting luck - there were clear merits in keeping Pearson. This reminds me of what we were like under Sven and Gary Megson. 

 

I love Claudio, so, so much - he transformed us, not just into champions, but his persona won the hearts and minds of every single football fan in the world. But football is a business and I doubt the owners will see their investment dented so badly without at least trying something new. 

[stripeyfox]

I think it is time for the owners to come out and either "Back him or Sack him".

 

Given that the choice of realistic replacements doesn't look great, I'd prefer the owners say "Ranieri stays until the end of the season - no matter what" and then have a massive clear the air talks. If anyone feels unable to work with, or for the manager then they can take their stuff and piss off the reserves.

 

 

[Guest Danny Clender]

I think he stays regardless until the end of the season.

That scenario would see the club siding with the Manager, which I think is the right choice, but that would also mean If we didn't get relegated, Drinkwater, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Fuchs, Okazaki, Ulloa, Mahrez, Albrighton would all leave or be replaced at the end of the season. 

If we did get relegated, the same bunch with Slimani all would still go.

Either way, the team faces a major over-haul soon. 

 

Not sure if that will happen though

So considering the easier option would be to take inspiration from Chelsea, write the season off, bar fighting relegation and giving it a go for the cups, sacking the manager and coming back stronger and ready for next season.

Ranieri does not strike me the type to "move upstairs" so, I think they'll let him go.

 

For me, the players I'd keep as the core to build on would be, if at all possible.

 

Schmeichel, Chillwell, Morgan, Fuchs, Gray, Amartey, Ndidi, Slimani, Musa, Mendy and then fill in the gaps with none AFCON players (unless the competition moved to every four years as it should be) 

The promising loan and U23's would all have a case to be stepped up as well, Barnes, Lawrence, James etc etc. 

 

 

 

 

[foxy boxing]

if the owners need to act they should, we need to know what is going on in the dressing room and on the training pitch, the players are not responding to Claudio's tactics or gameplay and we need to know why!

[ZeGuy]

3 hours ago, Danny Clender said:

I think he stays regardless until the end of the season.

That scenario would see the club siding with the Manager, which I think is the right choice, but that would also mean If we didn't get relegated, Drinkwater, Vardy, Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Fuchs, Okazaki, Ulloa, Mahrez, Albrighton would all leave or be replaced at the end of the season. 

If we did get relegated, the same bunch with Slimani all would still go.

Either way, the team faces a major over-haul soon. 

 

Not sure if that will happen though

So considering the easier option would be to take inspiration from Chelsea, write the season off, bar fighting relegation and giving it a go for the cups, sacking the manager and coming back stronger and ready for next season.

Ranieri does not strike me the type to "move upstairs" so, I think they'll let him go.

 

For me, the players I'd keep as the core to build on would be, if at all possible.

 

Schmeichel, Chillwell, Morgan, Fuchs, Gray, Amartey, Ndidi, Slimani, Musa, Mendy and then fill in the gaps with none AFCON players (unless the competition moved to every four years as it should be) 

The promising loan and U23's would all have a case to be stepped up as well, Barnes, Lawrence, James etc etc. 

 

 

 

 

Kasper definitely won't stay in case of relegation. In fact I'm wondering if he's going to stay another season even if we stay up.

 

Morgan should and will be dropped as soon as a replacement comes. He's been a liability the whole season. Not that Huth was any better.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

1 hour ago, waylander said:

Keep smiling bob top posts?

Always trying to stay positive 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

1 hour ago, Ricey said:

Prior to the game I wanted him to stay. The team selection was good and for 40 minutes it was a team working hard and going toe-to-toe with one of the best away teams in the league. Then a goal and we imploded.

 

You could argue that Ranieri is to blame for the fragile mental strength we currently posses, but he isn't telling Huth to totally misjudge a ball, instructing Morgan and Huth to let Zlatan drift into space on the penalty spot nor training Ndidi to switch off and not track Mkhitaryan, then Fuchs to inexplicably play the offside trap. Yesterday, there is little more he could have done. I can't fault him.

 

IF he has totally lost the dressing room, and more importantly the backroom staff, then maybe the owners have no choice. However, if the squad are still behind Ranieri, even if that support is dangling by a thread, then he needs to remain and the players need to look at themselves first before they question the man that guided them to more success than they could have ever dreamt of.

Super post Ricey 

 

100% agree 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

8 hours ago, crazyleicester said:

We dont need a clear out.

 

We have some fantastic younger players coming through in Chilwell, Gray, Ndidi, Amartey and Kapustka. We have some excellent first team players in Kasper, Vardy, Drinky and Slimani whilst Mahrez for me is destined to move on after being loyal to us for one season. I love what he did last season and will never forget that but when you have a player that you know is destined for bigger things, sometimes its best to let him go. If Spurs did it with Bale, United with Ronaldo and Liverpool with Suarez then we must realise the real top players will be difficult to keep.

 

As for Ranieri, I couldnt agree more. I have been defending the bloke on here for a few weeks simply because of last seasons achievements and the fact that he carries himself so well. Also because I feel the players are getting away from criticism and Claudio is getting most of the flack. I was so pleased to listened to the Sky lads who were going on about the players efforts and that Claudio should have a statue outside our stadium and not be talking of sacking him. I was also pleased to hear so many players say that they are backing him in the post match interview and also Claudio clearing up the "players need to go to the chairman" comment which was originally lost in translation.

 

We are not finished yet this season BTW and Im certainly not given it up. For all we know we could end up winning the bloody FA Cup and finishing 6th bottom and we will be in dream land again. 

 

 

Fingers crossed bud

[fuchsntf]

8 hours ago, crazyleicester said:

We dont need a clear out.

 

We have some fantastic younger players coming through in Chilwell, Gray, Ndidi, Amartey and Kapustka. We have some excellent first team players in Kasper, Vardy, Drinky and Slimani whilst Mahrez for me is destined to move on after being loyal to us for one season. I love what he did last season and will never forget that but when you have a player that you know is destined for bigger things, sometimes its best to let him go. If Spurs did it with Bale, United with Ronaldo and Liverpool with Suarez then we must realise the real top players will be difficult to keep.

 

As for Ranieri, I couldnt agree more. I have been defending the bloke on here for a few weeks simply because of last seasons achievements and the fact that he carries himself so well. Also because I feel the players are getting away from criticism and Claudio is getting most of the flack. I was so pleased to listened to the Sky lads who were going on about the players efforts and that Claudio should have a statue outside our stadium and not be talking of sacking him. I was also pleased to hear so many players say that they are backing him in the post match interview and also Claudio clearing up the "players need to go to the chairman" comment which was originally lost in translation.

 

We are not finished yet this season BTW and Im certainly not given it up. For all we know we could end up winning the bloody FA Cup and finishing 6th bottom and we will be in dream land again. 

 

 

What..!!!!   You forgot the Champions league...2017 the big 3..

 

FA CUP

Champions league

..mmm  what is the 3rd..????

Relegation..

 

 

I'D take that..!! Just think my way..60yrs of variety, but no great success other than league cup..

Then..!!  Within  4 seasons

Starting with promotion, Great Escape, Title...FA cup..CL.....even with the big "R"  what a story

All you gotta do is dreaaaam, dream, dream dream.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

16 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

What..!!!!   You forgot the Champions league...2017 the big 3..

 

FA CUP

Champions league

..mmm  what is the 3rd..????

Relegation..

 

 

I'D take that..!! Just think my way..60yrs of variety, but no great success other than league cup..

Then..!!  Within  4 seasons

Starting with promotion, Great Escape, Title...FA cup..CL.....even with the big "R"  what a story

All you gotta do is dreaaaam, dream, dream dream.

I would take us staying up and the FA Cup

 

now that would be AMAZING  

[Bob Weasel Fox]

15 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Once again..,how many people on here batted an eyelid when these contracts were being handed out?

I raised this point when they were being handed out...along the lines of WE were now doing what we'd criticised other clubs for doing.

Indeed, many people, if I remember, commended the revised and improved contracts saying that the players deserved them.

Now, people are suggesting, the club was wrong to do this.

Hows that for hypocrisy.

You know Col I have always agreed with about 90 per cent of what you post bud

 

and in the contract scenario you were right as I can remember you questioning the new contracts then

 

fair play it's definately had an effect on the players desire

 

they have none none now and you were right 

[crazyleicester]

29 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

What..!!!!   You forgot the Champions league...2017 the big 3..

 

FA CUP

Champions league

..mmm  what is the 3rd..????

Relegation..

 

 

I'D take that..!! Just think my way..60yrs of variety, but no great success other than league cup..

Then..!!  Within  4 seasons

Starting with promotion, Great Escape, Title...FA cup..CL.....even with the big "R"  what a story

All you gotta do is dreaaaam, dream, dream dream.

 Id rather finish 4th bottom and get knocked out of both cups at the first attempt so we can keep the core of our squad if Im honest because I am certain this seasons experiences will mean we start next season in a totally different fashion and become that regular top ten side that we thought we would be.

 

However, we are Leicester City!!! Since I have been a fan (80s) and started following us, nothing has ever been straight forward. I remember days like having to beat Oxford to avoid the third tier of English football to amazing play off wins and even cup wins! Ive seen Olly the clown take us down and Pearson mastermind the great escape. So much craziness goes on out club whether its losing to Wycombe in the cup to a teletex striker to what happened last season which puts a smile on my face whenever I think about it. It would be just like us to win the FA Cup when we are playing like dogshite and cant put two decent performances together! Who knows?!!!!

[Bob Weasel Fox]

2 hours ago, crazyleicester said:

 Id rather finish 4th bottom and get knocked out of both cups at the first attempt so we can keep the core of our squad if Im honest because I am certain this seasons experiences will mean we start next season in a totally different fashion and become that regular top ten side that we thought we would be.

 

However, we are Leicester City!!! Since I have been a fan (80s) and started following us, nothing has ever been straight forward. I remember days like having to beat Oxford to avoid the third tier of English football to amazing play off wins and even cup wins! Ive seen Olly the clown take us down and Pearson mastermind the great escape. So much craziness goes on out club whether its losing to Wycombe in the cup to a teletex striker to what happened last season which puts a smile on my face whenever I think about it. It would be just like us to win the FA Cup when we are playing like dogshite and cant put two decent performances together! Who knows?!!!!

FA Cup winners and stay up by the skin of our teeth, now that would complete the Leicester fairytale  

[RonnieTodger]

How many of the fans backing Claudio believe that he'll turn it around?

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

There needs to be a succession plan.

 

Pretty obvious that Claudio will not see out his contract and even if he does he can move upstairs and use his wealth of knowledge.

 

Need somebody in that he can work with and mentor, get the respect of the players and eventually take over.

 

Cambiasso or similar is ideal

 

We need a lifet