Last season v the MON era

[MC Prussian]

Tough comparison, so much has changed in the space of 20 years. Not to take anything away from the O'Neill era, but to me it seems it was a bit easier for poorer teams to stay up, there wasn't the amount of money, foreign investment and foreign players to be excited about. This led to a more even playing field behind the big boys.

 

What O'Neill achieved in terms of winning trophies will always have a special place in LCFC history, the team we had back then gained a certain notoriety and that for all the right reasons. The team and fighting spirit were rather unique and we did thrive on the underdog label, putting in resilient displays, just not wanting to let go.

 

As of right now, last season will remain a freak incident in the grand scheme of things. Nobody can take a title win away from us, but unless we being invest wisely, be more professional about the general approach to football and hire more talented people who know what they're doing, it can be somewhat undone and we risk of losing it all. Or at least it would be a crying shame not to use this grandiose opportunity to create something worthwhile, longer-lasting, something for the generations to come after us

[Koke]

5 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

The premier league in my opinion was a lot stronger back then in terms of winning. Not taking away what happened last season but it was weaker

 

Last season in specific was probably weak but this era of Premier League is much stronger than the 90s. There are far more quality now than then. 

[MPH]

7 hours ago, bovril said:

Not sure he built it from nothing. The foundations were good. We had a sensible chairman in Martin George and had had a couple of managers before (Little, McGhee) who had built a decent squad that would have almost certainly got promoted.

What O'Neill did was transform the team from a yo-yo outfit to a stable PL club. A lot of it was about spirit and O'Neill's superb man-management, but people forget the quality of the players he brought in. Our recruitment then was as good as some of the gems Walsh found in the last 5 years.

They were great years and I think people underestimate just how good that team was. A bit more luck and a larger squad and we could have finished top 6 and made an FA Cup final.

 

 

If you look at all the big names from the MON era.. they were all signed by him....

[foxfanazer]

41 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

Last season in specific was probably weak but this era of Premier League is much stronger than the 90s. There are far more quality now than then. 

There are more quality teams nowadays but the quality teams were stronger back then imo. We'd have never beaten those United or Arsenal teams to a title

[bovril]

22 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

If you look at all the big names from the MON era.. they were all signed by him....

True. But the foundations of the cub were very solid at that time. We were set up for PL football. Like I said, what O'Neill did to his credit was bring in players and implement a system to keep us there.

[Topman]

Last season was absolutely amazing, but MON era was my childhood memories, going to filbert Street, Wembley, going to Monday night football with school free tickets and walking home because I spent all my pocket money in club shop, those childhood memories can never be replaced, I don't know why even thought last season was enormous but I have fonder memories as a child, that's why I'm brain washing my 2 daughters into lcfc 

[MPH]

12 hours ago, bovril said:

True. But the foundations of the cub were very solid at that time. We were set up for PL football. Like I said, what O'Neill did to his credit was bring in players and implement a system to keep us there.

 

 

He he also started from the championship didn't he? Ranieri ( who by only went and won the bloody Prem for us!) inherited a Prem team and a Prem budget.

 

 

and just to clarify to people- I AM saying winning the Prem surpasses anything MON  did for us, but what MON did can not be underestimated...

[foxy boxing]

the football you go and see when you are growing up will always have that special place in your heart. because its the first time you fall in love with football and the club you support. for me it was the late 80's early 90's standing in pen three. the nineties we were virtually twinned with Wembley because it seemed like we were there so often in those play off finals and the league cup finals.

[Eskay]

It's not a tough comparison in the slightest - We won the f***** league!!!!!

Get a grip!

 

[Guest Lako42]

I was younger so the MON era felt magical but  very real, we were a nothing club and the achievements were exceptional for us.

 

Last season was achieved by big paid players but there is no way that any other season can compare. Simply put last season was the greatest ever in the entire clubs history.

 

The MON days were an era, last season was one one season, that's possibly the only difference in favour.

[foxaholic]

21 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

The premier league in my opinion was a lot stronger back then in terms of winni era. ng. Not taking away what happened last season but it was weaker

 

21 hours ago, Merchant_Banker said:

I remember the end of the MON era, he always insisted our target was 40 points. We had been top 10 for 4 years why weren't we looking up and challenging for European places? Then he left and we found out how important that focus was.

 

I was excited when Peter Taylor was appointed. He had been England under 21 manager, surely he would bring in exciting young talent from across Europe. We got Junior Lewis! Proves how little I know about football.

 

For me last year exceeds everything from the MON era. MON got the team fighting above their weight. The results were better than expected, but last season was a miracle.

whilst last year was a miracle the strength of the league should be taken into consideration and was much stronger in the 60 s  70s  and Oneil 

[Renart]

I was going to watch the world origami championship, but I hear that it's paper view.

[Corky]

Last season. The O'Neill years were fantastic but we threw out some rotten performances. Last season was 38 games with roughly three or four poorer displays and not one easy match for the opposition (even Arsenal at home was a decent effort, especially the first 20 minutes).

 

I doubt we'll ever have a season of being so consistent and strong again at the highest level.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

13 hours ago, Corky said:

Last season. The O'Neill years were fantastic but we threw out some rotten performances. Last season was 38 games with roughly three or four poorer displays and not one easy match for the opposition (even Arsenal at home was a decent effort, especially the first 20 minutes).

 

I doubt we'll ever have a season of being so consistent and strong again at the highest level.

Fair point

 

i have fond memories of the Jock Wallace era the Martin OGod era and to some degree the NP era, however last season as a one off and an amazing one off at that

 

up the Foxes

[SpacedX]

On 09/02/2017 at 21:32, MPH said:

If you look at all the big names from the MON era.. they were all signed by him....

Not quite...

 

 

But most importantly...

 

[Guest Danny Clender]

The MON Dynasty was exceptional. It never lasted long enough for me though.

It was only good while MON was in charge, once he left there was that top of the table moment and that was it.

This time the story is way better than 2 league cup victories. 

A win against Tranmere?, on here?, Foxes Talk? in this day and age? really? amazing? only the real fans can appreciate that now. 

[MPH]

5 hours ago, Line-X said:

Not quite...

 

 

But most importantly...

 

I'll give you the Steve Walsh but he gave Heskey his debut and you're not really claiming kalac as a Big name are you?

[Monsell1976]

Both great times for Leicester, but hard to call.

Last season we achieved something that the club had never done before, winning the league, but mon time was as it's says, an era not a one season wonder.

Disappointed this season, as I thought we was going into a great era in the clubs history, and could have built in the success of last season, mid table, and a cup run/ win, cup run sorted, mid table doubtful.

I think we need to come back to this question  in a couple of seasons, if we stay up, maybe Claudio can create his own golden era.

[Monsell1976]

40 minutes ago, Danny Clender said:

The MON Dynasty was exceptional. It never lasted long enough for me though.

It was only good while MON was in charge, once he left there was that top of the table moment and that was it.

This time the story is way better than 2 league cup victories. 

A win against Tranmere?, on here?, Foxes Talk? in this day and age? really? amazing? only the real fans can appreciate that now. 

Had some crap times before m.o.n but some good times, the Brian little times were fun if my old memory serves me right

[SpacedX]

1 minute ago, MPH said:

I'll give you the Steve Walsh but he gave Heskey his debut and you're not really claiming kalac as a Big name are you?

Wrong, Heskey's debut was under McGhee. I remember it because I was there - it was a weekday game against QPR, many of the team had flu and I think I'm right in saying he didn't even have a squad number at the time. 

 

As you know full well, Kalac's introduction at Wembley 1996 was the most important intervention of any City player in history. I've worked out through the application of deterministic non-periodic and non-linear fractal mathematics, harnessing the differential equations first promulgated by Edward Lorenz, that without those fabled twenty seconds we would never have been league champions last year. Screw Kanté, Spider was the most pivotal player to ever don a City shirt.

[MPH]

3 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Wrong, Heskey's debut was under McGhee. I remember it because I was there - it was a weekday game against QPR, many of the team had flu and I think I'm right in saying he didn't even have a squad number at the time. 

 

As you know full well, Kalac's introduction at Wembley 1996 was the most important intervention of any City player in history. I've worked out through the application of deterministic non-periodic and non-linear fractal mathematics, harnessing the differential equations first promulgated by Edward Lorenz, that without those fabled twenty seconds we would never have been league champions last year. Screw Kanté, Spider was the most pivotal player to ever don a City shirt.

 

 

Thanks for jogging my memory on heskey, but Think you are in the minority with your spider opinion!!

 

kalac never was and never will be a big name for Leicester City.

[SpacedX]

1 minute ago, MPH said:

Think you are in the minority with your spider opinion!!

 

kalac never was and never will be a big name for Leicester City.

irony¹

ˈʌɪrəni/

noun

 

1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

   "‘Don't go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony"

   synonyms:

   sarcasm, sardonicism, dryness, causticity, sharpness, acerbity, acid, bitterness, trenchancy, mordancy, cynicism; More

   • a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

     plural noun: ironies

     "the irony is that I thought he could help me"

     synonyms:

     paradox, paradoxical nature, incongruity, incongruousness, peculiarity "the irony of the situation hit her"
   • a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

     noun: dramatic irony; plural noun: tragic irony

[Mickyblueeyes]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

I'll give you the Steve Walsh but he gave Heskey his debut and you're not really claiming kalac as a Big name are you?

He didn't. Emile made his debut against QPR. I am going to put my neck out here and say it was Mark McGhee in charge at the time.

 

However, his real impact came just before O'Neil came in against Norwich at Filbert Street. I remember it, because we brought on JJ and Heskey together. We were 2-0 down and Heskey changed the game. Scoring the winner in a 3-2 come back. David Nish was caretaker manager. 

 

This doesn't take anything away from your point as Emile did progress under MON. I just wanted to recall one of my favourite City games of all time.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Line-X said:

irony¹

ˈʌɪrəni/

noun

 

1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

   "‘Don't go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony"

   synonyms:

   sarcasm, sardonicism, dryness, causticity, sharpness, acerbity, acid, bitterness, trenchancy, mordancy, cynicism; More

   • a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

     plural noun: ironies

     "the irony is that I thought he could help me"

     synonyms:

     paradox, paradoxical nature, incongruity, incongruousness, peculiarity "the irony of the situation hit her"
   • a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.

     noun: dramatic irony; plural noun: tragic irony

I'm unsure what you're hoping to achieve. Are you looking for an argument? Bored?  I'd get out a bit more if I were you..

[SpacedX]

20 minutes ago, MPH said:

I'm unsure what you're hoping to achieve. Are you looking for an argument? Bored?  I'd get out a bit more if I were you..

No not at all...don't be so sensitive. 

 

I was sending up the idea of Kalac being important or at all significant, it was a trivial shit joke adding his picture which appeared to sail completely over your head. Of course I don't consider him a big name for City. And no, I'm not bored, I'm currently greatly enjoying the build up to Wales v England with a tin or two.