leicsmac Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 52 minutes ago, Smudge said: Why don't we wait and see? Personally, I think there's enough waddling and quacking here to assume a duck, but then stranger things have happened so we will see how this all pans out.
Guest MattP Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 You can almost sense the disappointment from the left he's not white.
leicsmac Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 21 minutes ago, MattP said: You can almost sense the disappointment from the left he's not white. Looks about white to me from the pictures, even with the name that he has - and he's certainly seemed to want to further the supremacist cause. I'd hope that, in this particular case, most of the left would be focusing on who his intended targets were, who he supported, and therefore who may have inspired him to carry out these attacks rather than his skin colour tbh. Still, if we're generalising, I can also sense the disappointment from the right that it turns out the guy is (likely) a steadfast Trump supporter.
Guest MattP Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 10 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Looks about white to me from the pictures. Haha I'm bringing that one back in the future. Is he seriously white? Cesar Sayoc is surely Hispanic? Not that it actually matters - reading his record I'm surprised he's walking the streets.
leicsmac Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 1 minute ago, MattP said: Haha I'm bringing that one back in the future. Is he seriously white? Cesar Sayoc is surely Hispanic? Not that it actually matters - reading his record I'm surprised he's walking the streets. Could be Filipino too - I've heard that possibility being mooted. Though like I said, he's clearly doing this for the furtherment of Trump's cause - whether that also contributes to white supremacy in this case I guess is up to the individual. And yes, I'm amazed he hasn't been booked before - there's a whole slew of Twitter records surfacing now showing how he's threatened influential figures on there as well as all the previous he's got, I'm surprised he wasn't being watched enough that he could make this happen.
Carl the Llama Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 The images I've seen have all been of a white-skinned individual. I'll leave the debate over whether that's of any actual importance or whether it's enough to put him in the "white" category to people who feel more strongly about it.
Dr The Singh Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 1 hour ago, MattP said: Haha I'm bringing that one back in the future. Is he seriously white? Cesar Sayoc is surely Hispanic? Not that it actually matters - reading his record I'm surprised he's walking the streets. Yes he is white, apparently a white supremacist
ithuriel Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: Yes he is white, apparently a white supremacist There's different variations of white just as there are black, I found this video very informative
Izzy Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 Reports of 8-10 killed at another mass shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh today.
leicsmac Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 3 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Reports of 8-10 killed at another mass shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh today. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46002549 Terrible stuff.
Izzy Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46002549 Terrible stuff. I've ran out of things to say Mac really. For some reason it especially upsets me when these things happen at a place of worship.
leicsmac Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 7 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: I've ran out of things to say Mac really. For some reason it especially upsets me when these things happen at a place of worship. Agreed. The only thing I'll add is that I believe the reasons for such happening right now, however, are very obvious.
spacemunky Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 Trump says if only they'd been armed inside the synogogue, the numbers would have been different. He is a fuc*ing idiot.
Izzy Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 2 hours ago, spacemunky said: Trump says if only they'd been armed inside the synogogue, the numbers would have been different. He is a fuc*ing idiot. I hate his stance on guns. Also saying teachers should be armed, it's a fvcking mental attitude.
spacemunky Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 1 minute ago, Izzy Muzzett said: I hate his stance on guns. Also saying teachers should be armed, it's a fvcking mental attitude. Its just insanity to me. Makes me thankful to live where I do.
Voll Blau Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 2 hours ago, spacemunky said: Trump says if only they'd been armed inside the synogogue, the numbers would have been different. He is a fuc*ing idiot. That's putting it kindly. The cvnt is a fvcking disgrace.
Izzy Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 Trump: "If they had protection inside, the results would have been far better" It's not a game you fvckin imbecile. Taking about the number murdered as results makes me sick.
spacemunky Posted 27 October 2018 Posted 27 October 2018 Just now, Izzy Muzzett said: It's not a game you fvckin imbecile. Taking about the number murdered as results makes me sick. Every time I think I've heard it all from him, he goes and says something like that. Boggles my mind that he could be in charge of anything, let alone a country.
leicsmac Posted 29 October 2018 Posted 29 October 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46012626 Good column piece covering recent events.
UPinCarolina Posted 30 October 2018 Posted 30 October 2018 Saying today he's going to circumvent the U.S. Constitution by abolishing birthright citizenship, which has existed here since 1866 via the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Says he is going to do so via executive order. Good Lord.
leicsmac Posted 30 October 2018 Posted 30 October 2018 11 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: Saying today he's going to circumvent the U.S. Constitution by abolishing birthright citizenship, which has existed here since 1866 via the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Says he is going to do so via executive order. Good Lord. Well, he'd need an Amendment itself to do that, I would think. Unless his newly loaded Supreme Court decides that an executive order can override the Constitution and precedent goes from there...that might get interesting.
UPinCarolina Posted 30 October 2018 Posted 30 October 2018 40 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Well, he'd need an Amendment itself to do that, I would think. Unless his newly loaded Supreme Court decides that an executive order can override the Constitution and precedent goes from there...that might get interesting. He does, but it's not about that - it's a ploy to rally the base ahead of mid-terms. He's scared of losing seats in the House and Senate. It's also to play on fears about the "caravan" - already deployed 5,000 troops to the border. You'd think it was an actual invasion or something.
leicsmac Posted 31 October 2018 Posted 31 October 2018 9 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: He does, but it's not about that - it's a ploy to rally the base ahead of mid-terms. He's scared of losing seats in the House and Senate. It's also to play on fears about the "caravan" - already deployed 5,000 troops to the border. You'd think it was an actual invasion or something. Yeah, of course this is primarily dog-whistling to get his voter base out there for the midterms - he knows he likely needs a bit of a boost there.
leicsmac Posted 31 October 2018 Posted 31 October 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-46047494 Exactly why the Repub candidate would use an outdated pic of a British town without bothering to check developments is up for debate.
leicsmac Posted 1 November 2018 Posted 1 November 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46053036 I don't know...perhaps he's not condemning it in a loud enough voice, perhaps?
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