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President Trump & the USA

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leicsmac

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5 hours ago, Innovindil said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47744351

 

Been ordered to pay $130k for the police investigation. 

 

This makes less and less sense every day. 

Yup.

 

Goodness only know where it's all going to end up.

 

 

2 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Fields' case is an example of how many factors come together, making things worse in the process.

Grew up without a father (who died before he was born), his grandparents on his mother's side killed in a murder-suicide, then he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, treated for ADHD, bipolar disorder, depression.

Guy's literally a walking looney bin, and comes from one heck of a fvcked up family background. The combo with his ultranationalist views created a monster.

Could he have been helped earlier? Or is his condition untreatable? How do you deal with such deranged people early on? You can't do a "Minority Report" and prevent crimes before they happen.

 

What he did in Charlottesville is inexcusable.

 

However, I'd also like to point out that tensions rose in part because the initial (extreme) right-wing protest was done on a permit, while the counter-protesters did not have one. Things escalated quickly from thereon, and you have to ask yourself who provoked whom as events unfolded.

 

In addition, things seem to have quieten down quite a bit in the news in that corner. Never heard of similar extreme right-wingers exposing themselves during protests since. 2017/2018 seemed to have been peak years, with hotbeds such as Portland or Seattle.

 

As for the Facebook maneuver, I do hope they are fair and balanced in their approach and ban offensive speak and posts from anarchists, marxists, leftists, socialists and communists also. Twitter has come under similar criticism for their one-sided approach to banning profiles in recent months and years. Their CEO went on a bit of a PR tour to face the music, but it remains to be seen how serious they are about the new implementations.

 

 

 

People with his background are probably more open to radicalisation via the internet (which I'm assuming is what happened), and yes, being able to get at these vulnerable folks before they get the kind of beliefs that involve killing is a good thing and it is tricky to manage.

 

However, as you say, the violence done by this guy is inexcusable - permit or no permit. Provocation barring a capital threat (and it's now known this was not the case but rather premeditated) is not an excuse to kill/

 

I'd like to hope such elements have tempered themselves a bit since the events of eighteen months or so ago, but I fear so long as they have a figurehead in the White House - whether or not he agrees with what they are and do - they will be there waiting for the next opportunity.

 

As for FB, when the groups you mention walk into a school/church/mosque/other civilian centre tooled up and open fire (or some other method of causing death and/or maiming), then I will be the first to clamour to disrupt their communication and recruiting apparatus, too.

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Kopfkino

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11 minutes ago, MattP said:

She's done it again lol

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6871781/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-claims-Republicans-amended-Constitution-prevent-FDR-elected.html

 

The only reason it didn't happen sooner is because the Republicans didn't control Congress. They were calling for it in 1940. But given it exempted the president at the time of ratification it's difficult to say it was done to prevent FDR personally rather than prevent another FDR. 

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MC Prussian

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5 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

The process of drafting the amendment began while he was still alive.

Point is that FDR had been elected four times already prior to the amendment, an exception under exceptional circumstances (WWII).

He was in poor health and his wife pretty much ran the show, so I don't see how he could've lasted any longer. Rooseevelt even pondered quitting his post as early as 1945 due to his poorer and poorer condition.

 

Concerns over presidents going on a lifetime regency had been as old as the draft of the original constitution, so nothing new there.

 

Also, Roosevelt came from a Bourbon Democrat background, e.g. Democrats leaning to conservatism and classic liberalism, so ideologically he's a bit far off for AOC, or rather, right-wing from her point of view.

 

In essence, she doesn't know US history as much as she should.

 

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47781740

 

If this is true, the Dems should take the opportunity to show they're better than their counterparts at accountability in such matters and ensure he has no chance.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47780123

 

Gorsuch the originalist, I see.

 

As an aside, why exactly does it matter if someone - anyone - chooses to have a spiritual advisor at the very last minute rather than thinking of it in advance? Is there any way the last couple of paragraphs of that article isn't a blatant double standard based on ideology - exactly what the Supreme Court shouldn't be doing?

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Unplanned, a movie about abortion, doubles its expected ticket sales, sets new record for an independently-produced movie:

The movie had its Twitter account suspended briefly, only for it to be reinstated shortly after following major backlash.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47822839

 

If you don't want to be seen as autocratic and unaccountable, perhaps don't do unaccountable and autocratic things like this? Or at least be honest enough to admit that you aren't the good guys, there are no good guys and you're as self-interested as Russia and China are (tbf Trump has been pretty honest in that regard in the past with the "America First" stuff).

 

https://thenib.com/who-hates-the-green-new-deal?t=recent

 

A rather simple but pretty informative look at attitudes towards the Green New Deal.

 

My position has always been pretty clear on such things: though these changes might sound drastic, either we make them in our own time or one day circumstances force us to make still more drastic changes, some of which might be even more unpalatable to those who like the status quo. The Earth isn't going to wait around for us to get our shit together.

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10 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://thenib.com/who-hates-the-green-new-deal?t=recent

 

A rather simple but pretty informative look at attitudes towards the Green New Deal.

 

My position has always been pretty clear on such things: though these changes might sound drastic, either we make them in our own time or one day circumstances force us to make still more drastic changes, some of which might be even more unpalatable to those who like the status quo. The Earth isn't going to wait around for us to get our shit together.

The Green New Deal in its present form is laughable.

Illustrate that with the fact that you need a comic to pander to mostly young people (kids, students), going to great lengths about what possible impact the proposal could have and how courageous the pro-movement is, yet it fails to address the actual content of the proposal, which is badly and broadly formulated, consisting of unrealistic and impractical targets, with the doomsday date shifting with each new proposal (first Gore, now AOC). I wonder why that is... :whistle:

To me, it's merely a political tool in order to create attention and gain traction so that young voters can be lured into group thinking and - to some extent - joining the DSOA.

You'd want people to think for themselves first and foremost.

 

We need to invest in technology and try to reduce our ecological footprint where possible.

Renewable energy's conversion rate is still too low - apart from water, but there's only a certain amount of ideal spots that are usable. Fuel Cells are surprisingly enough not that well-known, their use should be pushed.

 

I'd love to see a proper and modern passenger train system in the US that connects East to West and North to South, supplemented by better public transportation within the major cities, be it buses, subways or trams, for instance. Given the sheer size of the country, that'll be a massive task. But it's doable. Anything to alleviate individual traffic by car.

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37 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

The Green New Deal in its present form is laughable.

Illustrate that with the fact that you need a comic to pander to mostly young people (kids, students), going to great lengths about what possible impact the proposal could have and how courageous the pro-movement is, yet it fails to address the actual content of the proposal, which is badly and broadly formulated, consisting of unrealistic and impractical targets, with the doomsday date shifting with each new proposal (first Gore, now AOC). I wonder why that is... :whistle:

To me, it's merely a political tool in order to create attention and gain traction so that young voters can be lured into group thinking and - to some extent - joining the DSOA.

You'd want people to think for themselves first and foremost.

 

We need to invest in technology and try to reduce our ecological footprint where possible.

Renewable energy's conversion rate is still too low - apart from water, but there's only a certain amount of ideal spots that are usable. Fuel Cells are surprisingly enough not that well-known, their use should be pushed.

 

I'd love to see a proper and modern passenger train system in the US that connects East to West and North to South, supplemented by better public transportation within the major cities, be it buses, subways or trams, for instance. Given the sheer size of the country, that'll be a massive task. But it's doable. Anything to alleviate individual traffic by car.

 

The GND as it is now is certainly light on detailed policy - which is why it needs committee attention and focus to make it a clear and well-stated policy objective document. That only happens when enough people take the necessity of it seriously, and I hope that happens soon. FWIW I'm happy with multiple forms of communication - comics, articles, whatever - being put across in whatever form people will understand. This issue is too important to warrant anything less, and yet there are those who would happily deny that it's happening at all for nothing more than the sake of their own self-interest maintaining the status quo. I'd rather they be honest about that than besmirching the researchers that have brought the information forward, but since when have such people actually been honest?

 

I unequivocally agree with the last two paragaphs about ways forward, though - we need a diverse generation structure getting rid of oil, gas and coal and utilising a mix of wind, water, solar and Gen III/IV fission nuclear going forward, as well as much better public transportation options and less use of the internal combustion engine.

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5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47856992

 

Makes for pretty grim reading - how gangs are being addressed right now in Chicago clearly doesn't seem to be working.

Chicago's had major issues with gang violence for years, if not decades. Little has changed in close to 50 years.

Btw, Chicago's been dominated by Democrats for about the same period of time. :ph34r:

 

It's just so sad to see so many young lives wasted.

The education system is failing, father figures are missing, job opportunities limited (linked to the education issue) and no respect for life.

I mean there's even a Safe Passage Program for school kids able to safely get to school, imagine that.

 

Part of me wants the black community healing itself so desperately, the change needs to come from within. I agree that the government can assist in resolving the issue, but it's mainly the community itself that needs a major change of heart.

 

Part of the problem is also the local legal system, with offenders getting off lightly for serious crimes. You get a one-year sentence and are let out a few months later due to good behaviour, only for the vicious cycle to repeat itself. Coupled with institutional corruption, it makes for a tragic reading.

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4 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Chicago's had major issues with gang violence for years, if not decades. Little has changed in close to 50 years.

Btw, Chicago's been dominated by Democrats for about the same period of time. :ph34r:

 

It's just so sad to see so many young lives wasted.

The education system is failing, father figures are missing, job opportunities limited (linked to the education issue) and no respect for life.

I mean there's even a Safe Passage Program for school kids able to safely get to school, imagine that.

 

Part of me wants the black community healing itself so desperately, the change needs to come from within. I agree that the government can assist in resolving the issue, but it's mainly the community itself that needs a major change of heart.

 

Part of the problem is also the local legal system, with offenders getting off lightly for serious crimes. You get a one-year sentence and are let out a few months later due to good behaviour, only for the vicious cycle to repeat itself. Coupled with institutional corruption, it makes for a tragic reading.

If the Dems were really that bad at governing cities every Dem city would that bad (and there are many), though I know you were mostly extracting the urine there.

 

I honestly don't know what to make of a solution here - I'd agree that community-oriented solutions would work but I also think that it's not just the community itself that is lacking here, it simply can't be. Education would help so much - I wonder what the statistics are for state and federal public school funding in areas of Chicago based on race? That would make for interesting reading.

 

As for the legal standpoint, again I honestly don't know if shorter sentences increase recidivism or not - you could probably find studies saying both with equal levels of "proof" - but I'm inclined to think that the massive sentencing for many different crimes in various parts of the US coupled with the prison-industrial complex doesn't seem to help much with crime rates either.

 

In short, it all adds up to a shitstorm where the solution - if any - is difficult to see and as a political hot potato ideological debate makes it that much more difficult to find it.

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The Democrats slide into the sewer of antisemitism continues - I get the feeling the desire to promote certain candidates has taken precedence over due diligence.

 

For those who don't know, Stephen Miller is Jewish.

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