HybridFox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Could see him moving on to another club if the offer was on the table to be honest. Would make me sick to the stomach if he joins Spurs though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTheFox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 If this is true then 12 million is an absolute joke. We got him relatively cheap because his contract was running out, and i think 99% of us on here would have said he would be worth way more than 12 million by now. Some teams would have paid 12 million to get him from Birmingham! I refuse to believe that Rudkin thought that he would ever be worth less than Jordan ****ing Ibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 We got taken to the cleaners in January last year by opportunist/smart agents who took advantage of a lack of experience of negotiating at the top table. Anybody who can't see that is an ostrich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Was worried this was about Schmeichel or Drinkwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 "and, after helping them avoid the drop, in his first full season with the club he scooped the Premier League title." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireFox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 22 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said: "and, after helping them avoid the drop, in his first full season with the club he scooped the Premier League title." Clearly talking about Kramaric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf0x Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Remember to take off the 2.4 million owed to Birmingham as part of the sell on fee. Cheers John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 5 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: Where's all this "mahrez will be off in the summer" talk come from? He's not had a good season one or two good games that's about it. If anything he looks like a one season wonder. His stock isn't as high as it was last season and he didn't really attract much interest then. Yeah Mahrez is rubbish, but obviously we will be needing 40+ million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 27 minutes ago, Vardinio'sCat said: Yeah Mahrez is rubbish, but obviously we will be needing 40+ million for him. Who said he was rubbish? Name me one game from this season where he has looked anywhere near as good as last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 These release clauses are really annoying but we're being unfair to Rudkin here. Do people really think he puts them into contracts because he wants to? It's sometimes the only way a player will sign for us and they don't want to sit on the bench on a long term contract if things don't go their way. The most annoying part is the paltry amounts these clauses are set for but again that's more down to the player's agent than Rudkin. When the contract is signed, a players value isn't generally as high as when there is interest from other clubs and the agent doesn't want a player trapped by an over-valuation by the club so they're often a lot lower than the players current value. As I say, they're extremely annoying when you lose a player like Kante for a lot less than his value became or you have a Vardy to Arsenal saga but who foresaw us becoming champions and the players values becoming what they did but it's hardly Rudkin's fault. If we're going to lay any blame at his door, it's when he fails to sign players by not offering enough or yes, putting in a release clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 17 minutes ago, Leicester_Numan said: These release clauses are really annoying but we're being unfair to Rudkin here. Do people really think he puts them into contracts because he wants to? It's sometimes the only way a player will sign for us and they don't want to sit on the bench on a long term contract if things don't go their way. The most annoying part is the paltry amounts these clauses are set for but again that's more down to the player's agent than Rudkin. When the contract is signed, a players value isn't generally as high as when there is interest from other clubs and the agent doesn't want a player trapped by an over-valuation by the club so they're often a lot lower than the players current value. As I say, they're extremely annoying when you lose a player like Kante for a lot less than his value became or you have a Vardy to Arsenal saga but who foresaw us becoming champions and the players values becoming what they did but it's hardly Rudkin's fault. If we're going to lay any blame at his door, it's when he fails to sign players by not offering enough or yes, putting in a release clause. Spot on I was just going to say similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Numan Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 5 hours ago, Kitchandro said: If we can't convince some kid playing at Birmingham City to come here without a release clause then we're doing something wrong. Gray and his agent will have been aware that Mahrez and Albrighton were having great seasons and we were basically signing him to sit on the bench. Obviously he's not going to want to stay sitting on the bench but it's a possibility so of course he's going to insist on a release clause. He would have been foolish not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramadaone Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 21 minutes ago, Leicester_Numan said: These release clauses are really annoying but we're being unfair to Rudkin here. Do people really think he puts them into contracts because he wants to? It's sometimes the only way a player will sign for us and they don't want to sit on the bench on a long term contract if things don't go their way. The most annoying part is the paltry amounts these clauses are set for but again that's more down to the player's agent than Rudkin. When the contract is signed, a players value isn't generally as high as when there is interest from other clubs and the agent doesn't want a player trapped by an over-valuation by the club so they're often a lot lower than the players current value. As I say, they're extremely annoying when you lose a player like Kante for a lot less than his value became or you have a Vardy to Arsenal saga but who foresaw us becoming champions and the players values becoming what they did but it's hardly Rudkin's fault. If we're going to lay any blame at his door, it's when he fails to sign players by not offering enough or yes, putting in a release clause. Jesus wept a bloke on Foxestalk with a brain and bringing some sense to the debate bottom line is that the Agents now decide what goes into the contracts not the clubs and if you don't like it they take their player elsewhere. Yes you can barter to a certain extent but it is very limited. January window was a prime example where Agents wanted double what the players were worth in both transfer fee and wages so the club walked away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 if true, Rudkin has to get the sack. What a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uragomper Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 If true? Is anyone really surprised with little game time this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramadaone Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 5 hours ago, Kitchandro said: If we can't convince some kid playing at Birmingham City to come here without a release clause then we're doing something wrong. No your doing something wrong if you have no idea at all on how the world of transfers operates in the modern world not saying I like it just saying that Agents have created a process whereby they have the upper hand. How clubs wrestle back control of the situation is the real question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Jordan Ibe went for £15m... Ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uragomper Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 I would take 12 mill for Gray 40 mill for mahrez. Re-sign knockheart for 20 mill and get Lawrence back. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Just now, uragomper said: I would take 12 mill for Gray 40 mill for mahrez. Re-sign knockheart for 20 mill and get Lawrence back. Sorted. Then get relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uragomper Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Why relegation? Jumping to conclusions. Mahrez is definitely a gonna and Gray unless guaranteed a starting spot and a bumper contract. Realism needed here why not sign Knockheart player of the year in the championship deserves a chance in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 4 minutes ago, uragomper said: Why relegation? Jumping to conclusions. Mahrez is definitely a gonna and Gray unless guaranteed a starting spot and a bumper contract. Realism needed here why not sign Knockheart player of the year in the championship deserves a chance in the prem. Because your selling our best prospect and our best player and replacing them with championship standard players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambiasso Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Shame Grays attitude and ego are as big as his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acb Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 do people not realise our upturn in form coincides with lazy Grey being left out the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox2 Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 Ridiculous if true. Rudkin out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmondfox Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 8 hours ago, the fox said: someone should tell whoever responsible for contracts that a BUY-OUT CLAUSE is supposed to be the king's' ransom not a charity We need to borrow the DOF from Sporting for our contract dealings they seem to get huge buyout clauses attached to their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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