Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 4 hours ago, Babylon said: So the goalkeeping coach and the physio... and the press make out he was forced out by them. It is laughable as you say. No one forced him out. It's in his little head just like it's in Carragher's and whichever over paid, over hyped, incompetent moron Sky decide to employ as a "pundit". Ranieri was sacked because he lost the dressing room, made poor decisions regarding tactics, poor judgement on signings and training methods he wanted to employ. I.e. Absolutely everything he was employed to keep in tact. For god sake, man, ring your bell and wake up. What does he think happened? Say it was Shakespeare, did he really foresee that by getting him out, he would go on to win 6 on the trott and qualify for the champions league quarters? Bloody mystic meg is our Shakey if that's the case. It was more likely that the owners would've gone for an experienced manager had the start under Shakespeare not been as great as it was. To indirectly make Shakey face those sort of questions before the biggest game in his and this clubs history is unforgivable. In addition, to sit there and try to take all credit for the good things (the Kante signing - where Walsh had to beg his dumbass to sign him, the Vardy Mahrez partnership - ok mate etc.) but blame the players and others for the mishaps? What sort of man does that? He even indirectly tried to take credit for the recent run....the players are now playing the style I showed them...give it rest. No respect, good feeling left. I hope we smash Athletico today and he goes back to ruining other clubs.
MrSpaM Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 I think the most telling thing from that interview was him referring to people who sent him congratulations at the end of last season as "his fans" Not sure if that's something that's been lost in translation but that would indicate to me that he probably thought he was bigger than the club, which could be a reason the owners got rid
Kitchandro Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 I can't believe some of the things I'm reading on this thread. Some people are so incredibly immature that they can't give Ranieri credit for last season, or spin a couple of comments to try and discredit his character. Frankly, character is something these people have none of. We talk about backstabbing, betrayal, whatever. I wouldn't trust some of you as far as I could throw you.
Guest Sharpe's Fox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 30 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: It is laughable as you say. No one forced him out. It's in his little head just like it's in Carragher's and whichever over paid, over hyped, incompetent moron Sky decide to employ as a "pundit". Ranieri was sacked because he lost the dressing room, made poor decisions regarding tactics, poor judgement on signings and training methods he wanted to employ. I.e. Absolutely everything he was employed to keep in tact. For god sake, man, ring your bell and wake up. What does he think happened? Say it was Shakespeare, did he really foresee that by getting him out, he would go on to win 6 on the trott and qualify for the champions league quarters? Bloody mystic meg is our Shakey if that's the case. It was more likely that the owners would've gone for an experienced manager had the start under Shakespeare not been as great as it was. To indirectly make Shakey face those sort of questions before the biggest game in his and this clubs history is unforgivable. In addition, to sit there and try to take all credit for the good things (the Kante signing - where Walsh had to beg his dumbass to sign him, the Vardy Mahrez partnership - ok mate etc.) but blame the players and others for the mishaps? What sort of man does that? He even indirectly tried to take credit for the recent run....the players are now playing the style I showed them...give it rest. No respect, good feeling left. I hope we smash Athletico today and he goes back to ruining other clubs.
Foxboro Hot Tub Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 First post here, and wow.......some of these opinions are stark raving BONKERS Youve got a guy who wins the biggest trophy the club has won and will probably ever win, and theres people who are desperate to take it off him and use the way things went wrong this season to say actually, he aint any good and I was right all along that hed ruin the club. Already its obvious LCFC Neil and Sharp Fox are WUMS I suppose if the backroom team did everything at the club we can expect a title challenge next season then? Why is everyone getting upset anyway? did an interview so what. Didnt name anyone did he? If you dont like the bloke, he gave you the league title and now hes gone, we arent going down so why bang on about him, and if you do respect him, hes in the record books forever. Those who didnt like him, why cry over spilt milk the blokes gone. Hes not coming back. Except it aint spilt milk, he was there to oversee the biggest success ever. Looks stupid sitting here as Leicester bitching about the man who was in charge when we won the league for the first time ever while we laud people who we dont know what their exact involvement is, how day to day club affairs run etc.
NeilLCFC Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 hour ago, MrSpaM said: I think the most telling thing from that interview was him referring to people who sent him congratulations at the end of last season as "his fans" Not sure if that's something that's been lost in translation but that would indicate to me that he probably thought he was bigger than the club, which could be a reason the owners got rid This is the only thing He's probably been correct about. There are a fair few on here that clearly support Ranieri not Leicester City, to the extent that these individuals would have been happy for us to be relegated and face potential ruin, if it meant CR kept his job. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Go and follow Ranieri to the next club he manages.
norwichfox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 I've lost a great deal of respect for Ranieri for accepting this gig before the Atletico game, got to agree with a previous poster in this thread that Sky have an agenda to screw us over. Whatever he said was always going to be thrown open for interpretation, but for me, the worst thing he could have done is to lay blame without a name....and that's exactly what he did. Pushing to one side the brilliant 15/16 season, there's only 1 person to blame and that was our manager for the debacle that existed from the loss of the first game of the season v Hull (a team with only 13 fit men and no fcuking manager) right up to the evening he was sacked, and if you can't fathom who that was Ranieri, look in the mirror for a clue. For Goodness sake, we're champions of England but you and your tactics made us look the chumps of England. Please don't be deluded into thinking that Shakespeare is following your model of football management, it's just not true.
lgfualol Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said: It is laughable as you say. No one forced him out. It's in his little head just like it's in Carragher's and whichever over paid, over hyped, incompetent moron Sky decide to employ as a "pundit". Ranieri was sacked because he lost the dressing room, made poor decisions regarding tactics, poor judgement on signings and training methods he wanted to employ. I.e. Absolutely everything he was employed to keep in tact. For god sake, man, ring your bell and wake up. What does he think happened? Say it was Shakespeare, did he really foresee that by getting him out, he would go on to win 6 on the trott and qualify for the champions league quarters? Bloody mystic meg is our Shakey if that's the case. It was more likely that the owners would've gone for an experienced manager had the start under Shakespeare not been as great as it was. To indirectly make Shakey face those sort of questions before the biggest game in his and this clubs history is unforgivable. In addition, to sit there and try to take all credit for the good things (the Kante signing - where Walsh had to beg his dumbass to sign him, the Vardy Mahrez partnership - ok mate etc.) but blame the players and others for the mishaps? What sort of man does that? He even indirectly tried to take credit for the recent run....the players are now playing the style I showed them...give it rest. No respect, good feeling left. I hope we smash Athletico today and he goes back to ruining other clubs. God, if you told me at the end of last season that not even a year later, there would be posts like this about Ranieri I would call you crazy
polarbear Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 39 minutes ago, NeilLCFC said: This is the only thing He's probably been correct about. There are a fair few on here that clearly support Ranieri not Leicester City, to the extent that these individuals would have been happy for us to be relegated and face potential ruin, if it meant CR kept his job. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Go and follow Ranieri to the next club he manages. As opposed to you Nigel and your Nigel drum
davieG Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 I don't think there was anyone 'behind' him it's either just another of his excuses for the complete collapse or he's just paranoid and Sky, with other media jumping on the bandwagon making a mountain out of an off the cuff throw away excuse/paranoia. Virtually every question he was asked was put in such away that it enabled him to excuse himself from all responsibility and to deflect it onto shadowy others. There was no real probing into his culpability and he contradicted himself time and again.
Foxboro Hot Tub Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 hour ago, NeilLCFC said: This is the only thing He's probably been correct about. There are a fair few on here that clearly support Ranieri not Leicester City, to the extent that these individuals would have been happy for us to be relegated and face potential ruin, if it meant CR kept his job. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Go and follow Ranieri to the next club he manages. We arent going down We arent facing potential ruin Ranieri was manager when we won the league Ranieri is no longer here Im not ashamed. Why the anger and animosity, when clearly everyone in this situation is a winner? fans have a league title to celebrate. The people who respect Ranieri for what he did respect him without nit picking every line of response he gives forensically, youre happy because the man you dont like is gone, and the club is in a great state. This was first thread ive read, why hell bent on proving something to everyone that doesnt need to be proved. What is your motivation to post?
Countryfox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 33 minutes ago, Foxboro Hot Tub said: We arent going down We arent facing potential ruin Ranieri was manager when we won the league Ranieri is no longer here Im not ashamed. Why the anger and animosity, when clearly everyone in this situation is a winner? fans have a league title to celebrate. The people who respect Ranieri for what he did respect him without nit picking every line of response he gives forensically, youre happy because the man you dont like is gone, and the club is in a great state. This was first thread ive read, why hell bent on proving something to everyone that doesnt need to be proved. What is your motivation to post? Listen Mrs Ranieri we all respect your husband and what he, and the players, and the club as a whole, did for us fans ... and that will never be forgotten. But some people are merely a tad annoyed how he has popped up just before one of the biggest games in the clubs history and, very slightly, rocked the boat. Thats all. Yes, some maybe getting a little animated about that ... but then so are you. Go and give hubby a big cuddle and make him a nice espresso ...
sheffield_fox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 He clearly a club legend. I can't imagine many (if any) fans hold a grudge against Ranieri that this season didn't pan out the way we might have liked it to. Why sour your reputation by sparking these kind of rumours on the eve of the biggest match in the clubs history? Smacks of ego and sadly I think i've lost a little bit of respect for him over it. He achieved the spectacular, the sacking turned out for the best, keep your mouth shut and move on. UP THE FOXES!
LCFCSOULBOY Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 This is really painful. With a few in here Ranieri never had a chance. He never got respect for last season for replacing Pearson. IE. Was Pearson's team etc. His back room staff etc. Shakey now doing what Pearson would have done etc. Incredible. I honestly think some on here will never be happy unless Pearson himself comes back. Also think it has a tinge of racism with some. Often I have read on here we are an English team etc. Unfortunately true. Some on here deny but some should look at themselves.
Countryfox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 3 minutes ago, LCFCSOULBOY said: Also think it has a tinge of racism with some. Nonsense. I think you are wide of the mark on that one.
LCFCSOULBOY Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 minute ago, Countryfox said: Nonsense. I think you are wide of the mark on that one. Sorry but no. Just go back and read quotes from last season. With some he didn't have a chance. Always on here some have often mentioned the English thing. Undisputable.
Countryfox Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 minute ago, LCFCSOULBOY said: Sorry but no. Just go back and read quotes from last season. With some he didn't have a chance. Always on here some have often mentioned the English thing. Undisputable. Well if thats the case its very sad to hear.
STUHILL Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 Disappointed with Claudio's remarks but it was the whole point of getting him on the MNF and they were pushing for him to blame someone as they still can't get their head around him being sacked. No excuses though, he should have stopped after he clarified that the player's were not behind his sacking. He obviously has bitter feelings to someone higher up, but I do agree with others that he tried to absolve himself of any responsibility of our failings. He should have admitted to getting things wrong, although he is still probably mystified why it did all go wrong to be fair. I still think to manage a team over 38 games and win the Premier League with only 3 losses, is an incredible achievement and he should take his fair share of credit for that. I think the problem many have, is that the media have attributed 99% of our success to him, and as fans, we know better. There was an incredibly strong foundation in place when he took over, with a very talented backroom staff and the momentum and team spirit from our great escape. Add to that some key Walsh signings like Kante and Okazaki, and we really were set up to have a very strong season. Even so, Claudio added his own ingredients to that mix and it was the perfect blend and winning the title could not have been achieved without him, but also not without what came before him. Roll on 12 months, a number of things contributed to our huge slump in form and Claudio was a large part of that. The solid foundation from the season before was crumbling, with key staff members leaving, and whereas I believe Claudio's slightly uncoventional methods had been useful, affective and tolerated before, I think they began to lose their affect quickly, especially as the losses start to stack up. I would hope that everyone can see that over a 38 game season, Claudio must have played a part in our greatest ever success. What is up for debate, is how big a role he played and that I assume is why there is this big polarised debate on here. Anyone suggesting we would have won it without him or he didn't have any positive impact on our success, is just not being honest with themselves. Claudio played an important role in our title success, not as much as the media portrayed and probably not as much as he himself believes, but also not as little or none that some on here are now suggesting.
EnglishOxide Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 15 minutes ago, LCFCSOULBOY said: This is really painful. With a few in here Ranieri never had a chance. He never got respect for last season for replacing Pearson. IE. Was Pearson's team etc. His back room staff etc. Shakey now doing what Pearson would have done etc. Incredible. I honestly think some on here will never be happy unless Pearson himself comes back. Also think it has a tinge of racism with some. Often I have read on here we are an English team etc. Unfortunately true. Some on here deny but some should look at themselves. Saying he never got respect is total crap. He took full credit for the title win, his PR skills as well as tactical experience were particular strengths. What people take issue with is him being totally absolved of any blame when things went wrong and his lack of awareness of his failures is a real issue. He's either the manager and the buck stops with him or he's not. His results, good or bad are what he is judged on and clearly his bosses thought he had no idea how to improve. And if you consider some of the nonsense he talks, they appear to be right.
Webbo Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 2 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said: Saying he never got respect is total crap. He took full credit for the title win, his PR skills as well as tactical experience were particular strengths. What people take issue with is him being totally absolved of any blame when things went wrong and his lack of awareness of his failures is a real issue. He's either the manager and the buck stops with him or he's not. His results, good or bad are what he is judged on and clearly his bosses thought he had no idea how to improve. And if you consider some of the nonsense he talks, they appear to be right. Not on here, obviously.
LCFCSOULBOY Posted 12 April 2017 Posted 12 April 2017 1 hour ago, EnglishOxide said: Saying he never got respect is total crap. He took full credit for the title win, his PR skills as well as tactical experience were particular strengths. What people take issue with is him being totally absolved of any blame when things went wrong and his lack of awareness of his failures is a real issue. He's either the manager and the buck stops with him or he's not. His results, good or bad are what he is judged on and clearly his bosses thought he had no idea how to improve. And if you consider some of the nonsense he talks, they appear to be right. 1 hour ago, EnglishOxide said: Saying he never got respect is total crap. He took full credit for the title win, his PR skills as well as tactical experience were particular strengths. What people take issue with is him being totally absolved of any blame when things went wrong and his lack of awareness of his failures is a real issue. He's either the manager and the buck stops with him or he's not. His results, good or bad are what he is judged on and clearly his bosses thought he had no idea how to improve. And if you consider some of the nonsense he talks, they appear to be right. Touchy aren't we. Struck a nerve I think. Did you look in the mirror and see the guilt?
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