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match thread ranieri MNF

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TAFKA Castroneves

TAFKA Castroneves

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Thank you Carragher for writing our team talk for Wednesday - and well done Claudio for not falling for the presenters attempts to gain a scoop for Sky - and also thank you for confirming that you decided to try and employ different systems this season - and I understand your logic for doing so, however in practicality it was NEVER going to work this season with our extra fixtures, it no doubt concerned Claudio the amount of rest days required to employ the style of football we were playing and perhaps the prospect of having to rest more with the champions league games proved too much of a risk for him personally, that's fine, that's his call - but he's ultimately responsible.

 

Looking back to Pearson's team-building I remember pretty vividly in his first full season back with the club we generally played pretty aggro for one half and then would sit back and kinda rest for a bit, Nigel seemed to balance out what he wanted the team to do while building up their fitness levels to the point where last season (and towards the end of the season before) we could finally hit at least 80 minutes of the game pretty hard. Nigel did this over seasons, Claudio decided to try and do it all swifty during a pre-season and general season where we have had less time available than before - not to mention all the awards we've been dragged over Europe for lol

 

I'm pretty devoted to the backroom staff here who got this club to the top flight - convincingly as well by the title winning season, I believe in what they've tried to do because we ended up walking the Championship and despite requiring the "Great Escape" we never looked as lost as we did this year.

 

If we'd lost Shakespeare, Stowell etc instead of Claudio i'd have been MUCH more concerned about our future, it would have been Swansea levels of stupidity - and look how well they've done since they've pushed aside all the backroom work they put in with Martinez, Laudrup and Monk, they sacrificed that for a "quick fix" a few times (bradley etc) - and I believe Clement is the guy they've brought in to try and get back to what they had before. If you see how Southampton operate when it comes to managers - they pick a manager to fit what they are setup to play - and if it wasn't for that i'm sure with all their transfer issues they would have gone down by now, constantly losing players to Liverpool. Let's be honest here, Claudio was not a pick to fit our system - even though he agreed to work with our staff.

 

But once again thank you Claudio for last year, of course i like others are very sad it didn't work out for you - but I believe as a fan the path you were offering wasn't right for the club at this time.

K1FOX

K1FOX

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From what I watched of that tonight I didn't hear Claudio even once accept any blame whatsoever for this season or even accept he made a couple of mistakes. Instead he just kept on talking about 'his' system and 'his' players and the team 'he' built. Very strange and today I saw a level of arrogance from Claudio that I didn't think existed in him.

 

Thank you for managing us last season Claudio but you really need to stop playing this victim card and acting as if you were wrongfully dismissed.

Mike Oxlong

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8 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

That is 100% true i used to go out with a member of Either rudkin or Pearson's family (don't want to betray confidence) and i know for 100% sure those two did not get on at all.

Was it Mrs Ruskin or Mrs Pearson ? ;)

Guest Dirkster the Fox

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6 hours ago, K1FOX said:

From what I watched of that tonight I didn't hear Claudio even once accept any blame whatsoever for this season or even accept he made a couple of mistakes. Instead he just kept on talking about 'his' system and 'his' players and the team 'he' built. Very strange and today I saw a level of arrogance from Claudio that I didn't think existed in him.

 

Thank you for managing us last season Claudio but you really need to stop playing this victim card and acting as if you were wrongfully dismissed.

That's the thing, the CR lovers (those LCFC fans and everyone else) want him to carry all the glory for last season, but it's teflon time for everything that was wrong this season. Not him, but it must be the players, the snakes, the other staff.....et al? I just can't get my head around those that wanted him in the job still, even if we'd got relegated. Other fans of other clubs, yes whatever, but Leicester fans actually feeling he was bigger than our club? Crazy..

 

He hasn't shown any humility or self criticism about anything he did wrong or could have changed or not changed. It was just bad luck/confidence....eventually leading to the players, oops sorry now it's the other(s) getting him the sack.

 

Anyone remember Pearson going on TV within just a few weeks of getting the sack bleeting of injustices?

 

No, the bloke waited months and months until away at Man City before he spoke about it and even then didn't come across as bitter and certainly didn't milk the teams unfolding successes. Pearson isn't everyone's cup of tea and I get all the reasons why, but that day he calmly circumvented the subject of his sacking (either way he had a chance to say something) and praised the players and staff instead.

 

I really wish CR had gracefully waited longer to have his say. Barely 6 weeks and just 48 hours before CL game shows last night was all about him again and does him no favours imo.

 

They often say silence speaks a thousand words, but not for Claudio. He wants the "sorry for him bandwagon" to roll on longer....

 

 

 

Lovejoy

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So basically the long and short of Ranieri's moment on tv is that he still wouldn't acknowledge he did anything wrong this year and was taking us down. Decision to fire him doubly vindicated then.

sk3since03

sk3since03

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Claudio who?

 

 

No in all seriousness i love the man, it's hard not to ! Sacking has been truly justified though! It also has me wondering if Shakey was the one pulling the strings last season and the owners realised this  

bald reynard

bald reynard

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52 minutes ago, sk3since03 said:

Claudio who?

 

 

No in all seriousness i love the man, it's hard not to ! Sacking has been truly justified though! It also has me wondering if Shakey was the one pulling the strings last season and the owners realised this  

 

1 hour ago, Lovejoy said:

So basically the long and short of Ranieri's moment on tv is that he still wouldn't acknowledge he did anything wrong this year and was taking us down. Decision to fire him doubly vindicated then.

Agree with you sk3, on the comment that it could well have been Shakey who won us the title last year.  The more I think about it, I  feel Claudio was a figurehead who did all the media stuff, while Shakey (and coaching team) did all the footballing 'legwork' - analysis, tactics etc - perhaps even team selection. 

 

I also agree with you Lovejoy, he still won't admit he was at fault for this season. 

bald reynard

bald reynard

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1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

Well one things for certain, sky didn't have Claudio on for his tactical genius in analysing the arsenal game, he sounded fvckin clueless to me.

I didn't see the programme, but it doesn't surprise me - see my comments about Shakey above !

yorkie1999

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36 minutes ago, bald reynard said:

I didn't see the programme, but it doesn't surprise me - see my comments about Shakey above !

All he kept coming out with was stuff like "i see one team who fight and are strong and i see one team who are maybe not so much fighting"

Then Carragher coming out with stuff like "The arsenal players chucked it",  don't know whether he was trying to tap into Claudio's sacking or something, but it all came across as a bit weird and Snakey.

Koke

Koke

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I was disappointed they didn't ask CR about the Ulloa shenanigans on deadline day.

Koke

Koke

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9 hours ago, TK95 said:

Such a w***** honestly

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Stupid **** Carragher still stirring up propaganda. 

yorkie1999

yorkie1999

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I missed the start, but did they mention Pearson's involvement in building a team and an infrastructure that Claudio took over from, and also did he feel any gratitude towards Thai prostitution. and what his thoughts were on the positivities of rimming. 

fuchsntf

fuchsntf

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9 hours ago, TAFKA Castroneves said:

Thank you Carragher for writing our team talk for Wednesday - and well done Claudio for not falling for the presenters attempts to gain a scoop for Sky - and also thank you for confirming that you decided to try and employ different systems this season - and I understand your logic for doing so, however in practicality it was NEVER going to work this season with our extra fixtures, it no doubt concerned Claudio the amount of rest days required to employ the style of football we were playing and perhaps the prospect of having to rest more with the champions league games proved too much of a risk for him personally, that's fine, that's his call - but he's ultimately responsible.

 

Looking back to Pearson's team-building I remember pretty vividly in his first full season back with the club we generally played pretty aggro for one half and then would sit back and kinda rest for a bit, Nigel seemed to balance out what he wanted the team to do while building up their fitness levels to the point where last season (and towards the end of the season before) we could finally hit at least 80 minutes of the game pretty hard. Nigel did this over seasons, Claudio decided to try and do it all swifty during a pre-season and general season where we have had less time available than before - not to mention all the awards we've been dragged over Europe for lol

 

I'm pretty devoted to the backroom staff here who got this club to the top flight - convincingly as well by the title winning season, I believe in what they've tried to do because we ended up walking the Championship and despite requiring the "Great Escape" we never looked as lost as we did this year.

 

If we'd lost Shakespeare, Stowell etc instead of Claudio i'd have been MUCH more concerned about our future, it would have been Swansea levels of stupidity - and look how well they've done since they've pushed aside all the backroom work they put in with Martinez, Laudrup and Monk, they sacrificed that for a "quick fix" a few times (bradley etc) - and I believe Clement is the guy they've brought in to try and get back to what they had before. If you see how Southampton operate when it comes to managers - they pick a manager to fit what they are setup to play - and if it wasn't for that i'm sure with all their transfer issues they would have gone down by now, constantly losing players to Liverpool. Let's be honest here, Claudio was not a pick to fit our system - even though he agreed to work with our staff.

 

But once again thank you Claudio for last year, of course i like others are very sad it didn't work out for you - but I believe as a fan the path you were offering wasn't right for the club at this time.

Top notch...

fuchsntf

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23 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

All he kept coming out with was stuff like "i see one team who fight and are strong and i see one team who are maybe not so much fighting"

Then Carragher coming out with stuff like "The arsenal players chucked it",  don't know whether he was trying to tap into Claudio's sacking or something, but it all came across as a bit weird and Snakey.

Must say I found that strange too..

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