Mahrez to .......................?

[NewquayFox]

If Mahrez stays (which I hope he does) I hope Appleton takes him by the scruff of the neck before every game and tells him to reproduce his Champions seasons form or he will batter him, gently of course....

[Unclenobhead]

I hope he stays,

 

I just wish he had a bit more class about him and not come out publicly saying he wanted to leave, If he has been told he can go after last season his agent could have done all the work behind the scenes and got him a club if anyone is interested. 

 

Now the situation we have if he goes is less time to get a replacement at a much higher price the nearer the deadline it drags on, and if he stays and doesn't start well fans will be on his back saying he doesn't want to be here 

[Redouane]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

 

Yeah Matt he doesn't want to talk about when Mahrez has been shit. Let's just talk about 15/16 and pretend that's his constant levels of performance. Whereas Kante has won a league title since and Vardy still finished last season with decent figures

 NO! I admitted that Vardy was far superior to Mahrez last season. But that's not the point BECAUSE i was replying to the statement that Vardy and Kante were superior to Mahrez in 15/16. So context is very important my friend. 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Redouane said:

 NO! I admitted that Vardy was far superior to Mahrez last season. But that's not the point BECAUSE i was replying to the statement that Vardy and Kante were superior to Mahrez in 15/16. So context is very important my friend. 

Vardy was at least on par with Mahrez that season imo and Kante is probably the best in his position in the world

[Matt]

2 hours ago, ARM1968 said:

We will see I guess but I think Riyad may have missed the boat, train and even the automobile. 

 

His performance last last season was nothing special. Shot himself in both feet really. 

 

Personally i I hope no one comes in for him and he stays, puts in the effort required next season and helps us achieve something good. 

 

Then, perhaps, the big boys will take note again. 

 

I agree, I hope he stays and realises he needs to buck his ideas up, if he does as you say the big boys will take note again, while I wouldn't want him to go you can argue he'd deserve it of the back of a good season.

 

The facts he's had a poor season and as I've said in the past his persona makes he come across as not bothered/not trying and is an easy thing to throw at him, those facts leave a sour taste in the mouths when he thinks he can demand/engineer a move.

 

I think someone needs to take Mahrez to one side and remind him that the "gentlemans agreement" works both way, he needs to keep his side of the bargain up, he hasn't and for that only shot himself in the foot.

 

Then I keep going back to the point what big club is gonna be interested on last season's form/our valuation.

 

2 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

If he does this he'll have a great chance of a dream move next summer

 

Exactly and as I said it'd be deserved.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

15 hours ago, Redouane said:

Wait what? Vardy was nothing without Mahrez. Mahrez was nothing without Kante. 

 

This year, vardy has been an abysmal forward as the case with mahrez. The proof is in the pudding. Kante had an even better season with Chelsea whilst Vardy and Mahrez couldn't even perform half as well as in the title winning season. 

 

Still I think: Kante > Mahrez > Vardy in terms of importance if we had to compare them individually. But obviously all of them were equally vital to winning the prem. 

 

 

Vardy 'an abysmal forward this year.'

 

That is a laughable comment. I now see why we are always at loggerheads on this site. 

 

Your judgement of performances is totally wrong.

 

In the PL Vardy was on target with 50% of his shots scoring with just under 31% of total shots with 13 goals.

 

Add to that 5 assists.

 

In a team where he was hardly passed to for half he season I think that is pretty respectable.

 

It was Mahrez who pre Xmas in a two month period had not passed to Vardy once!

 

Mahrez's comparable numbers from open play in the same operiod 4 and 3.

 

Think again, on who was abysmal last season.

[Redouane]

52 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Vardy 'an abysmal forward this year.'

 

That is a laughable comment. I now see why we are always at loggerheads on this site. 

 

Your judgement of performances is totally wrong.

 

In the PL Vardy was on target with 50% of his shots scoring with just under 31% of total shots with 13 goals.

 

Add to that 5 assists.

 

In a team where he was hardly passed to for half he season I think that is pretty respectable.

 

It was Mahrez who pre Xmas in a two month period had not passed to Vardy once!

 

Mahrez's comparable numbers from open play in the same operiod 4 and 3.

 

Think again, on who was abysmal last season.

Was Vardy a top10 striker this season? No.

 

Was Mahrez a top10 winger this season? No.

 

I'm a fan of both, but facts are facts. 13 goals is not impressive, especially as the main striker of the squad. Same applies to Mahrez, he was abysmal this season. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

Clearly you choose to ignore facts in this particular discussion.

 

Vardy, as strikers in general are, rely on a decent supply, which he did not get for the most part.

 

His conversion rate of chances per goal (which you have ignored despite me providing you with said figures) is clearly more than respectable given the limited supply.

[ARM1968]

Vardy is great, but he missed a few sitters towards the end of last season. 

[the fox]

. no one got more abuse than vardy (yes, even more than mahrez) before Shakespeare's appointment , it was ugly, it was personal and outright disrespectful, I admit i criticized him (mainly to help push my slimani agenda )but people went too far. and now suddenly he had a good season (admittedly he torched almost everyone after the managerial change so you have to give him credit). Those threads were nasty

 

The gray praise after his good game with the under-21's and people glossing over vardy's first 7 month of the season is a proof that this forum is bipolar

[Guest Col city fan]

I think Vardy has had a much better season this term, than Mahrez. The issue for Vardy I still feel has been lack of good supply. Our midfield has generally been rank.

I genuinely believe that Kante enabled Mahrez to do his thing further up the pitch, he increased in confidence and thus supplied Vardy with quality ball, time after time.

The missing link has been the midfield. 

My feeling is that if we get THIS area sorted with some proper quality again, Mahrez will again shine and so will Vardy.

[the fox]

3 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Vardy is great, but he missed a few sitters towards the end of last season. 

He scored some important goals so I won't hold that against him.

[Matt]

48 minutes ago, Redouane said:

Was Vardy a top10 striker this season? No.

 

Was Mahrez a top10 winger this season? No.

 

I'm a fan of both, but facts are facts. 13 goals is not impressive, especially as the main striker of the squad. Same applies to Mahrez, he was abysmal this season. 

Erm...Yes.

 

1) Harry Kane - 29 Goals/7 Assists.

2) Romelu Lukaku - 25 Goals/6 Assists.

3) Alexis Sanchez - 24 Goals/10 Assists.

4) Diego Costa - 20 Goals/7 Assists.

-) Sergio Aguero - 20 Goals/3 Assists.

5) Dele Alli - 18 Goals/7 Assists.

6) Zlaten Ibrahimovic - 17 Goals/5 Assists.

7) Eden Hazard - 16 Goals/5 Assists.

-) Josh King - 16 Goals/2 Assists.

8) Christian Benteke - 15 Goals/2 Assists.

-) Jermain Defoe - 15 Goals/2 Assists.

-) Fernando Llorente - 15 Goals/1 Assist.

9) Son Heung-min - 14 Goals/6 Assists.

10) Phillippe Coutinho - 13 Goals/7 Assists.

-) Sadio Mane - 13 Goals/5 Assists.

-) Jamie Vardy - 13 Goals/5 Assists. (4th best conversion record in the top 10)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

 

Frustrating as it is that he only turned up for a half season it isn't a bad return (More impressive arguably). Even more so when you consider the service or lack of he got.

 

I'm not gonna sit here and say I didn't slag Vardy off, I did, I slagged the whole team off, but Vardy and most of the other players turned it around, for that credit where credit is due.

[the fox]

1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

I think Vardy has had a much better season this term, than Mahrez. The issue for Vardy I still feel has been lack of good supply. Our midfield has generally been rank.

I genuinely believe that Kante enabled Mahrez to do his thing further up the pitch, he increased in confidence and thus supplied Vardy with quality ball, time after time.

The missing link has been the midfield. 

My feeling is that if we get THIS area sorted with some proper quality again, Mahrez will again shine and so will Vardy.

This^. Its easier to use vardy's talent 100℅ without sacrificing much, but with riyad its a hard. Too much has to happen for him to go back to his best.

 

I'm looking forward to next season when the team brings a good RM with good defensive work rate so the team can carry a creative CAM.

[the fox]

You need a doctor if you think 13 goals and 5 assists aren't a good return considering the season(hazard won poty with 1 more goal and just 4 more assists, granted hazard did more than scoring and assisting) . My frustration comes from the fact that he could've hit 20 easily if the team played to his strength and provided more

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, the fox said:

You need a doctor if you think 13 goals and 5 assists aren't a good return considering the season(hazard won poty with 1 more goal and just 4 more assists, granted hazard did more than scoring and assisting) . My frustration comes from the fact that he could've hit 20 easily if the team played to his strength and provided more

You're really really boring.

[car1os]

Sounds as I know but I want Mahrez gone.  He's a wonderful player and the most naturally skilled player I've seen in a City shirt. But after this statement it's best he goes. Also, keeping Mahrez would likely keep Grey on the bench (which he won't stand any longer) and risk us losing him too - this would be more of a shame as I think Grey has the ability to be a top class winger for many years to come

[the fox]

25 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

You're really really boring.

I'm not in the entertainment business!

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, the fox said:

I'm not in the entertainment business!

Nor are you in the unbiased facts business.

 

And you cannot accuse me of being a hater, I've never ever commented on your posts before - I've watched and read you (and others too) for a very long time. 

[the fox]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

Nor are you in the unbiased facts business.

 

And you cannot accuse me of being a hater, I've never ever commented on your posts before - I've watched and read you (and others too) for a very long time. 

Relax, man! No one is calling you a hater or any such thing.

 

And what unbiased facts business? what I said was clear, vardy had a very good return considering the season the club went through, but some seem to forget vardy's first 7 months (in which he was called many unflattering names and accused of being unprofessional with the timing of the book)

 

What i'm trying to say is, for many here, you are as good as your last few games.

 

[Redouane]

6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Nor are you in the unbiased facts business.

 

And you cannot accuse me of being a hater, I've never ever commented on your posts before - I've watched and read you (and others too) for a very long time. 

That's creepy af

[Countryfox]

11 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Nor are you in the unbiased facts business.

 

And you cannot accuse me of being a hater, I've never ever commented on your posts before - I've watched and read you (and others too) for a very long time. 

 

Well I've just got back from a 6 hour round trip Peaky and I see we have now moved on from the pudding debate ....     pistols at dawn between you and the MFB's ? ...    

[Guest Col city fan]

28 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Nor are you in the unbiased facts business.

 

And you cannot accuse me of being a hater, I've never ever commented on your posts before - I've watched and read you (and others too) for a very long time. 

 

[HighPeakFox]

Oh good, it's being turned into something weird. 

 

Let me try again. I read and read and think and generally refrain from comment. It just happens that if I take a random browse on FT, I encounter the fox an awful lot. 

 

The stuff about Vardy is way off really, that's why I commented. It's simply unfair to judge him on the first 7 months of the season as he had nothing to go on. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I think Vardy has had a much better season this term, than Mahrez. The issue for Vardy I still feel has been lack of good supply. Our midfield has generally been rank.

I genuinely believe that Kante enabled Mahrez to do his thing further up the pitch, he increased in confidence and thus supplied Vardy with quality ball, time after time.

The missing link has been the midfield. 

My feeling is that if we get THIS area sorted with some proper quality again, Mahrez will again shine and so will Vardy.

Correct Col. 

 

Equally important I think, is Mahrez 'heart has to be in it', which I think has been clearly not the case in the last 12 months.