why have we sold no-one?

[Guest BlueBrett]

As quite a few others have said, the only one I'd sell would be Leo.

 

I'm still daring to hope that musa and slim have more to offer than we've seen so far and I also feel like it would be a shame not to find out what Mendy can do when fit. Thought he looked good against arsenal til he got injured. I'd hate to move him on and see him do well somewhere else before we even get a proper look at him here.

 

As for Wes..for me he's one of the untouchables. He could lose a limb and I'd still say keep him on out of loyalty and respect.  Seems the type to transition into coaching anyway so could develop into a different kind of asset in the future.

[4everfox]

7 hours ago, bpfox said:

i was just wondering why we have not sold anyone this window, this is who i think we could sell to make it easier to purchase better players, not sure of the value we would get so what i put on each player is just a guess.

 

mendy   10 million

musa     15 million

ulloa      10 million

shinji     10 million

wes        5  million

 

total     50 million

 

we then could go after sigurdsson and gibson even if it cost us 80 million we would only have spent 30 million, what do people think. WHY ARE WE HOLDING ON TO FLOP'S.

Okazaki, Morgan and Ulloa flops?

[Clever Fox]

Musa has worked extra hard to be ready for the season, and it's exactly the attitude you'd expect from a good player.

He has bulked up a little and is more aware of the demands of the league. He has pace to burn and is clever around the box.  

All he needs is a run in the side and I think he will do ok.

if he's not a serious contender for a place then we should loan him out to help create interest in him.

 

I'd certainly move Ulloa and Mendy out and even King I just don't see him offering us anything like what we need. 

Again with Mendy it's difficult to find anyone to take him until he proves his fitness.

 

Wes I think has one more season in him, So unless we sign another CB I'd keep him.

Benny is just a loose cannon and needs to be moved out.

 

The rest I'd be happy to keep until we bring in better. Which I'm sure we're still trying to do.

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, foxes21 said:

Watched Musa closely last night.

He made about 10 smart runs in behind and all he needed was a through ball or ball over the top and he'd have been clean through in goal.

 

I like that he comes inside and sits on the shoulder of the fullback. This firstly nullifies the fullback from attacking & also provides a problem for the covering CB's.

 

IMO Musa's movement running on the inside and getting in behind, could help create space for Vardy and gives Drinkwater/Mahrez more through ball options .

Musa is most probably more frustrated than most at the lack of killer balls, not played by our midfield. There's always a lot of criticism towards many of our strikers, sometimes rightly, sometimes not. But if they don't get GOOD supply, none of them will shine and they will all look poor at times.

Im convinced you take most of our attacking players and put them in a more creative team, in front of good passers of the ball, they'd all look very different.

This must be addressed. It's ridiculous now.

[foxes21]

4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Musa is most probably more frustrated than most at the lack of killer balls, not played by our midfield. There's always a lot of criticism towards many of our strikers, sometimes rightly, sometimes not. But if they don't get GOOD supply, none of them will shine and they will all look poor at times.

Im convinced you take most of our attacking players and put them in a more creative team, in front of good passers of the ball, they'd all look very different.

This must be addressed. It's ridiculous now.

I think in Musa's case it would be different if he was playing in our first team on the left in our usual 4-4-1-1. We'd have Drinkwater, Fuchs, Mahrez & Maguire all capable of spotting his runs and picking him out.

 

Yesterday it was a combination of lots of sideways/backwards passing between King, Iborra & the defence. IMO the lack of adventurous balls came down to not only ability, but the way we set up. 3 in the middle just makes us so slow in attack and in the build up.

[Guest Col city fan]

Just now, foxes21 said:

I think in Musa's case it would be different if he was playing in our first team on the left in our usual 4-4-1-1. We'd have Drinkwater, Fuchs, Mahrez & Maguire all capable of spotting his runs and picking him out.

 

Yesterday it was a combination of lots of sideways/backwards passing between King, Iborra & the defence. IMO the lack of adventurous balls came down to not only ability, but the way we set up. 3 in the middle just makes us so slow in attack and in the build up.

Absolutely. Good post.

[Bluetintedspecs]

13 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Musa is most probably more frustrated than most at the lack of killer balls, not played by our midfield. There's always a lot of criticism towards many of our strikers, sometimes rightly, sometimes not. But if they don't get GOOD supply, none of them will shine and they will all look poor at times.

Im convinced you take most of our attacking players and put them in a more creative team, in front of good passers of the ball, they'd all look very different.

This must be addressed. It's ridiculous now.

Mahrez and if not Gray given a chance?

[Guest Col city fan]

2 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Mahrez and if not Gray given a chance?

I've made the point before mate that you can't rely on Mahrez as just about the only player to unlock defences. He can be off form, doubled up on etc... we need another (not just a replacement if he goes) central midfielder who can pass a killer ball better than any of our current lot. In my opinion anyway.

[norfolkfox222]

our Premier League Title winning Captain........ a flop. 

 

Incredible!!

[filbertway]

People are being paid way more than they're worth. Imagine we'll have to let a lot of contracts run down that were handed out when everyone at the club went mental last summer.

[Bluetintedspecs]

5 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I've made the point before mate that you can't rely on Mahrez as just about the only player to unlock defences. He can be off form, doubled up on etc... we need another (not just a replacement if he goes) central midfielder who can pass a killer ball better than any of our current lot. In my opinion anyway.

I wasn't disagreeing with you bud , I unlike some on here who are slating him massively, think Gray is a prodigious talent and nurtured and given a chance will be very special!

[Bamba's Babes]

All speculation is about selling - how about we try signing someone?

[Clever Fox]

21 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

I think in Musa's case it would be different if he was playing in our first team on the left in our usual 4-4-1-1. We'd have Drinkwater, Fuchs, Mahrez & Maguire all capable of spotting his runs and picking him out.

 

Yesterday it was a combination of lots of sideways/backwards passing between King, Iborra & the defence. IMO the lack of adventurous balls came down to not only ability, but the way we set up. 3 in the middle just makes us so slow in attack and in the build up.

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It's not the 3 in the middle is the problem. it's the lack of foresight to lift the head and pick out a forward pass or simply beat a man and do the same. Instead, we pass sideways and backwards too much.

I think if we can fit Lawrence and even James in there it will bring a new freshness along with Ndiddi and Iborra.

[Clever Fox]

7 minutes ago, Bamba's Babes said:

All speculation is about selling - how about we try signing someone?

We probably have to move someone out to get someone in now. It's nothing to do with a lack of finance, It's more about complying with fair play rules. ( spending within certain parameters. )

[Bobby Hundreds]

8 hours ago, bpfox said:

i was just wondering why we have not sold anyone this window, this is who i think we could sell to make it easier to purchase better players, not sure of the value we would get so what i put on each player is just a guess.

 

mendy   10 million

musa     15 million

ulloa      10 million

shinji     10 million

wes        5  million

 

total     50 million

 

we then could go after sigurdsson and gibson even if it cost us 80 million we would only have spent 30 million, what do people think. WHY ARE WE HOLDING ON TO FLOP'S.

 

Behave.

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, norfolkfox222 said:

our Premier League Title winning Captain........ a flop. 

 

Incredible!!

At what point are people going to stop excusing players with the line 'premier league winning'?

It was over 12 months ago, he's starting to reach the end of his career (as is Huth) and we should be bringing in replacements/improvements.

[ZeGuy]

6 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I'm not sure people have realized, even now, that we've filled our squad full of mediocrity or 'maturity'.

Mendy has become a sick note. God knows what we are going to do with him. Musa might have had a decent pre-season friendly game, against Burton...but one swallow a summer doesn't make. Slimani has also become a sick note. His time actually on the pitch compared to the outlay for him must be ridiculous.

We have Amartey who despite the nonsense on here, doesn't seem to be attracting a plethora of suitors, then there's King who will end his career here, Leo and his new contract, big Wes, Huth, Simmo and Fuchs all of whom are in the twilight of their careers.

Clubs don't want these players. I think we either take significant losses on them, or somehow look to getting the best out of them that we possibly can. Surprisingly maybe, the main one for me is Musa. I think he's better than he's shown so far and we can get him playing.

Been a while since the last time you had an unfair dig at those three. I was starting to worry.

[norfolkfox222]

23 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

At what point are people going to stop excusing players with the line 'premier league winning'?

It was over 12 months ago, he's starting to reach the end of his career (as is Huth) and we should be bringing in replacements/improvements.

Irrelevant. The man has just called him a flop, A flop he is not

[Guest Col city fan]

13 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Been a while since the last time you had an unfair dig at those three. I was starting to worry.

Oh don't worry, it'll come up again, no doubt. If you can't admit Mendy is a sick note, for instance, then there's no hope for you.

[ZeGuy]

4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Oh don't worry, it'll come up again, no doubt. If you can't admit Mendy is a sick note, for instance, then there's no hope for you.

Mendy has had a nasty injury that could've happened to any player. His previous record shows nowhere that he's a sick note. People having a go at him is the most unfair thing I've read on FT and that's really something. Groin injures (Slim) are a known to be nightmare to heal and he got his calf gashed at the last game. Amartey while not being starter material is a versatile squad player, one you certainly can keep.

[MPH]

10 hours ago, bpfox said:

i was just wondering why we have not sold anyone this window, this is who i think we could sell to make it easier to purchase better players, not sure of the value we would get so what i put on each player is just a guess.

 

mendy   10 million

musa     15 million

ulloa      10 million

shinji     10 million

wes        5  million

 

total     50 million

 

we then could go after sigurdsson and gibson even if it cost us 80 million we would only have spent 30 million, what do people think. WHY ARE WE HOLDING ON TO FLOP'S.

 

other than Ron Robert Zieler of course for 3.5 million 

[Guest Col city fan]

16 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Mendy has had a nasty injury that could've happened to any player. His previous record shows nowhere that he's a sick note. People having a go at him is the most unfair thing I've read on FT and that's really something. Groin injures (Slim) are a known to be nightmare to heal and he got his calf gashed at the last game. Amartey while not being starter material is a versatile squad player, one you certainly can keep.

I'm not blaming the player!. It's unfortunate. But at present, he's looking like one of the club's worst signings in recent years. Not only the transfer fee,which wasn't inconsiderable, but his wages too. An unfortunate, but awful signing thus far.

[AKCJ]

28 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Oh don't worry, it'll come up again, no doubt. If you can't admit Mendy is a sick note, for instance, then there's no hope for you.

He's had three injuries on the same ankle from when he fell and twisted it badly on his home debut.

 

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/4502/nampalys_mendy_injury.html

 

It's not like he's constantly getting small and niggling injuries. He's struggling to return from a potentially career ending injury. That's normal.

[NeilLCFC]

10 hours ago, bpfox said:

i was just wondering why we have not sold anyone this window, this is who i think we could sell to make it easier to purchase better players, not sure of the value we would get so what i put on each player is just a guess.

 

mendy   10 million

musa     15 million

ulloa      10 million

shinji     10 million

wes        5  million

 

total     50 million

 

we then could go after sigurdsson and gibson even if it cost us 80 million we would only have spent 30 million, what do people think. WHY ARE WE HOLDING ON TO FLOP'S.

Wes a flop?!

 

Have a word with yourself mate

[MPH]

3 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

We havent sold the named players coz no one wants them   yet have been part if our history... but at this stage they cant improve the prospective clubs.

I too believe that there are a couple of exceptions.... shinji is key to playing the pressing game and to offer a route out of mid field..... often coming short to cause the defenders to move forward thus allowing the longer ball.  Like it or not he remains key to that mode of play. 

Second. ..simpson is playing the best of his carear.

The rest are a worry... as they take up space that would enable other players to have game time.

When we played spurs...none of our lads would have made their team.  

If we have ambition then every buy must offer top six quality potential

 

 

Well thats not true... Morgan was wanted by Newcastle, Mendy by some french clubs, Musa wanted on loan and possibly a couple of prem teams too have been sniffing round him... Ulloa and Shinji are the only players where there has been no public info given on interested teams but unless you Are part of the management structure at the club how can you be sure there isn't interest in those aswell?