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Safe standing - time to act

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Stadt

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Just now, H.a.r.r.y said:

ask anyone to name their striker, no one will even have a clue, ask someone what league they are in, most will have no idea, ask someone what their stadium is called, they'll have no idea. Most people won't even know that they even won the competition; It all depends on what you measure a club on for being big I guess.

They beat Liverpool in the groups this season. Other people's ignorance doesn't mean that they're a small club.

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Just now, H.a.r.r.y said:

because they won 1 title back in 1986

They're the biggest club in Romania, have a better history of winning trophies. We're a medium-large sized club in England, we're not bigger than a club that for 90% of its history has competed regularly in Europe

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Just now, Stadt said:

They're the biggest club in Romania, have a better history of winning trophies. We're a medium-large sized club in England, we're not bigger than a club that for 90% of its history has competed regularly in Europe

they play against Sepsi and Concordia

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1 minute ago, H.a.r.r.y said:

they play against Sepsi and Concordia

Yeah, as I've said we play in a better league but they can't help that. Sunderland are a bigger club than Bournemouth, but as a player right now you'd rather play for Bournemouth.

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1 minute ago, Stadt said:

Yeah, as I've said we play in a better league but they can't help that. Sunderland are a bigger club than Bournemouth, but as a player right now you'd rather play for Bournemouth.

are man city a small club then?

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16 minutes ago, funningcox said:

Safe standing is a no brainer, it should be in every ground in the UK. 

Is it Dortmund that have it? It brings great atmosphere.

The atmosphere comes from those on the stand. 

Dortmund have three huge ultras groups, the noise is from them.

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7 hours ago, Fox In The Box 90 said:

On the subject of atmosphere i think this is a bit exaggerated to be honest.

 

Its a mindset thing. Going with a mindset to make a good atmosphere.

 

Youre still watching the same game with the same people.

Agree, but what a standing section would do is bring together like minded people. If you're wanting to stand you're *probably* more interested in getting involved with the singing etc so people wanting this will naturally migrate to that area. The biggest problem with the atmosphere at our ground is the fact people are spread too thinly around the ground that want to sing. We need one big grouped area of like minded people. 

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Any standing area needs to be unreserved to help generate the best atmosphere but that'll never happen, one can only hope that people will be happy to swap seats. But even then I suspect it'll be just for ST Holders so probably wont help.

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11 hours ago, baker11 said:

The atmosphere comes from those on the stand. 

Dortmund have three huge ultras groups, the noise is from them.

It's also generated from the huge PA system they have where they play music really loud and a broadcaster whipping the crowd up. This sort off stuff

 

 

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On 06/03/2019 at 22:25, Voll Blau said:

Fair few clubs in Germany do. It's great.

Being from Germany and watching a lot of Bundesliga games I am obviously slightly biased.

 

Some points on the atmosphere:

 

1. The majority of clubs have fan groups (usually several like UFS) and they make noise for 90 minutes. Watch some games, there is always an atmosphere, no periods of silence (also noticeable with European teams in general in CL).

2. 99% of chants are about their club, not slagging off other clubs like it seems common with us (singing about Derby, Forest, now Celtic, what is the point really unless you are playing them?)

3. Standing certainly helps the atmosphere but it is not the only solution. There needs to be the mental attitude to club together and create this atmosphere, standing together with like-minded people helps.

 

The PL used to be what every European fan looked up to for atmosphere. But I feel in the past 10-15 years, this has died off and Europe is way ahead on atmosphere. Yes, fans are being priced out but that cannot be the sole blame. I just hope it improves and hopefully, rail seating/safe standing can help towards that. The PL misses the culture of fan groups, UFS cannot do it on their own. Affordable sections of the ground could help create this and bring it back but clubs seem to reluctant on forcing as much money out of fans as they can.

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1 hour ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Being from Germany and watching a lot of Bundesliga games I am obviously slightly biased.

 

Some points on the atmosphere:

 

1. The majority of clubs have fan groups (usually several like UFS) and they make noise for 90 minutes. Watch some games, there is always an atmosphere, no periods of silence (also noticeable with European teams in general in CL).

2. 99% of chants are about their club, not slagging off other clubs like it seems common with us (singing about Derby, Forest, now Celtic, what is the point really unless you are playing them?)

3. Standing certainly helps the atmosphere but it is not the only solution. There needs to be the mental attitude to club together and create this atmosphere, standing together with like-minded people helps.

 

The PL used to be what every European fan looked up to for atmosphere. But I feel in the past 10-15 years, this has died off and Europe is way ahead on atmosphere. Yes, fans are being priced out but that cannot be the sole blame. I just hope it improves and hopefully, rail seating/safe standing can help towards that. The PL misses the culture of fan groups, UFS cannot do it on their own. Affordable sections of the ground could help create this and bring it back but clubs seem to reluctant on forcing as much money out of fans as they can.

Completely agree mate. Been going over there for almost 10 years now myself to watch games. The problem here is there's very little appetite for supporter organisation, but hopefully something like the introduction of rail seating (I've accepted the kind of terracing you get at plenty of German grounds won't be coming back over here) could be the catalyst that changes that.

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In the coming weeks, football fans across Europe will protest UEFAs outdated ban on standing at European games under the slogan ‘Europe wants to stand’.

The protests began with the Champions League tie between Borussia Dortmund and Tottenham Hotspurs last night.

In addition to in-game actions, fan groups including the FSF, have written an open letter to UEFA calling for a change to the ban on standing in European games in place since 1998.

“We urge you to reconsider this ban and give us the choice of whether to sit or stand at football matches,” the joint letter to UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin says.

“As you are no doubt aware, the standing ban was closely linked to several disasters in European stadia and was intended as a quick solution to improve the safety of spectators.

“However, a number of long-term evaluations have concluded that the existence of standing sections was not the cause of these tragedies.”

The co-signed letter was co-ordinated by Football Supporters Europe (FSE), the umbrella organisation for national fan groups across the continent, of which the FSF was a founder member.

FSE point to the success of standing accommodation in Germany and the unsuccessful attempts to force fans to sit down across the top of English football in the last 30 years.

“The fact that it is possible to provide standing sections without safety or security risks at football matches is clearly evident in Germany,” the letter says. “Where approximately 100,000 fans stand up every weekend to support their team, contributing to the much-vaunted atmosphere at Bundesliga matches.

“In several countries, such as Scotland, the Netherlands or France, the strict ban on standing has been lifted in recent years and the same currently is being considered in other countries.”

The national supporter organisations also argue that a relaxation of the all-seater policy would dramatically improve the atmosphere at Europa League and Champions League matches – while giving clubs greater flexibility on ticket pricing.

“It is our belief that stadia must be open to people from all walks of life,” they told UEFA. “The provision of tickets in standing areas is one of the easiest ways to achieve this objective.”

Europe wants to stand – signatories:

  • Südkurve München, Bündnis Südtribüne Dortmund, Nordwestkurve Frankfurt, Nordkurve Mönchengladbach (Germany)
  • Football Supporters Europe (Europe-wide)
  • Belgian Supporters (Belgium)
  • Danske Fodbold Fanklubber (Denmark)
  • Football Supporters’ Federation (England & Wales)
  • Association Nationale des Supporters (France)
  •  Pro Fans / Unsere Kurve / Bündnis aktiver Fussball Fans (Germany)
  • Supporterscollectief Nederland (Netherlands) (Netherlands)
  • Amalgamation of Official Northern Ireland Supporters' Clubs (Northern Ireland)
  • Norsk Supporterallianse (Norway)
  • Irish Supporters Network (Republic of Ireland)
  • Federación de Accionistas y Socios del Fútbol Español (Spain)
  • Svenska Fotbollssupporterunionen (Sweden)
  • Associação Portuguesa de Defesa do Adepto - APDA (Portugal)
  • FSF Cymru (Wales)
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