Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Jimothy]

34 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

I'd wager a lot more people watch the Commonwealth Games than the Worlds or Euros.

Which kind of backs up the point that too much is made of it, because firstly the BBC treat it like the Olympic games, they don't offer the same coverage for the World's and Europeans, and I guarantee every single athlete at the Commonwealth Games would rather be a World or European Championship.

[Foxdiamond]

12 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Which kind of backs up the point that too much is made of it, because firstly the BBC treat it like the Olympic games, they don't offer the same coverage for the World's and Europeans, and I guarantee every single athlete at the Commonwealth Games would rather be a World or European Championship.

Even if it is the League Cup equivalent plenty of athletes love to win a medal. The other events are not multi sports so coverage will be less.

[Jimothy]

6 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Even if it is the League Cup equivalent plenty of athletes love to win a medal. The other events are not multi sports so coverage will be less.

Like I said in the original post, I'm sure the athletes enjoy competing and its great for athletes who wouldn't normally be at top Olympic standard to compete for medals. And I'm sure the likes of Tom Daley appreciated the experience it gave him as a youngster before going to the Olympics. Winning any medal is reason to celebrate. But it's still nothing like being a world or Olympic champion. 

 

Fair point about the multisport, but I still think it's over done. Some of this should be on the red button, website etc, not wall to wall coverage on BBC1.

[Guest Kopfkino]

53 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Which kind of backs up the point that too much is made of it, because firstly the BBC treat it like the Olympic games, they don't offer the same coverage for the World's and Europeans, and I guarantee every single athlete at the Commonwealth Games would rather be a World or European Championship.

But then these sports only get attention once every four years which isn’t good for their popularity or participation. The BBC are never going to cover every single World/European Championships for these sports because that’s a lot more to cover, suspect they don’t want to pay for the rights and the density of multi-sport meets like this drive attention and are easy to cover. They cover some of the diamond league but very little coverage of most of these sports otherwise. And something like squash isn’t at the olympics. Even though it’s relegated to BBC3 at best, it’s a pretty accessible and fun sport that gets near 0 mainstream attention without the Commonwealths.

 

When lots of sports coverage has been hoovered up and put behind paywalls (including the Olympics), I think it’s good for the BBC to make a thing of the Commonwealths even if the level or prestige isn’t as high as other meets.

[kenny]

17 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

But then these sports only get attention once every four years which isn’t good for their popularity or participation. The BBC are never going to cover every single World/European Championships for these sports because that’s a lot more to cover, suspect they don’t want to pay for the rights and the density of multi-sport meets like this drive attention and are easy to cover. They cover some of the diamond league but very little coverage of most of these sports otherwise. And something like squash isn’t at the olympics. Even though it’s relegated to BBC3 at best, it’s a pretty accessible and fun sport that gets near 0 mainstream attention without the Commonwealths.

 

When lots of sports coverage has been hoovered up and put behind paywalls (including the Olympics), I think it’s good for the BBC to make a thing of the Commonwealths even if the level or prestige isn’t as high as other meets.

If the BBC's budgets are being cut then they should be focusing on minority sports and competitions rather than blowing budgets trying to compete with Sky.

[Foxdiamond]

43 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Like I said in the original post, I'm sure the athletes enjoy competing and its great for athletes who wouldn't normally be at top Olympic standard to compete for medals. And I'm sure the likes of Tom Daley appreciated the experience it gave him as a youngster before going to the Olympics. Winning any medal is reason to celebrate. But it's still nothing like being a world or Olympic champion. 

 

Fair point about the multisport, but I still think it's over done. Some of this should be on the red button, website etc, not wall to wall coverage on BBC1.

I suppose BBC has so little sport they have to go to town with what they have. Also they would only put on a load of repeats at this time of year. 

[Jimothy]

15 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

But then these sports only get attention once every four years which isn’t good for their popularity or participation. The BBC are never going to cover every single World/European Championships for these sports because that’s a lot more to cover, suspect they don’t want to pay for the rights and the density of multi-sport meets like this drive attention and are easy to cover. They cover some of the diamond league but very little coverage of most of these sports otherwise. And something like squash isn’t at the olympics. Even though it’s relegated to BBC3 at best, it’s a pretty accessible and fun sport that gets near 0 mainstream attention without the Commonwealths.

 

When lots of sports coverage has been hoovered up and put behind paywalls (including the Olympics), I think it’s good for the BBC to make a thing of the Commonwealths even if the level or prestige isn’t as high as other meets.

But then if they were shoeing squash on the main channels rather than sticking that on the website or BBC 3 it might be worth it, but in reality we get a substandard competition of Athletics which gets moderately decent coverage and see very little still of the really undercover sports. But i do take the point that they get no coverage at all but this.

 

And my original point about the criticism Peaty got is surely right? Compared to the Olympics and World's, in all these sports the commonwealth will be down the list and nobody would risk Olympic or world participation to compete in this.

[ealingfox]

1 hour ago, lcfc278 said:

I dunno, I think I'd take that bet.

 

For the World's you're adding in China and USA, surely they bring a larger audience combined? 

 

Yeah I was only thinking about here tbf which is a limited point to begin with.

[BenTheFox]

On 03/08/2022 at 16:38, Fox92 said:

The Tory chants are so boring. I heard them singing it at the Community Sheild final and Manchester is as labour as Liverpool is.

Bringing football into politics is just strange. If they want to sing anti tory songs (and I'm as anti Tory as they are) then do it outside parliament or something not at a football match where people go to escape stuff like politics.

I find it funny as a Labour voter that both Liverpool and Leicester have arguably been misrepresented by the Labour Party more than any other cities in the UK in recent years. 

Edited 5 August 2022 by BenTheFox

[Guest Kopfkino]

9 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

But then if they were shoeing squash on the main channels rather than sticking that on the website or BBC 3 it might be worth it, but in reality we get a substandard competition of Athletics which gets moderately decent coverage and see very little still of the really undercover sports. But i do take the point that they get no coverage at all but this.

 

And my original point about the criticism Peaty got is surely right? Compared to the Olympics and World's, in all these sports the commonwealth will be down the list and nobody would risk Olympic or world participation to compete in this.

But I think the criticism of Peaty was more about it looking like he was a bit of a sore loser (as you might be if you lose for the first time in 7 years) and had forgotten where he came from which always riles people. I think everyone knows that the Olympics is the pinnacle, particularly for someone at his level. 

 

But ofc Peaty didn’t need to bother with the Commonwealths given his year since the Olympics so he’s clearly not disrespecting it. People always make a faff of nothing 

[RonnieTodger]

The commonwealth cricket tournament reads like a cricket tournament 

[Bellend Sebastian]

The new as yet unreleased Morrissey song 'Rebels Without Applause' is great

[The Bear]

1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

The new as yet unreleased Morrissey song 'Rebels Without Applause' is great

Just had a listen. The guitar part is very Cemetery Gates. 

[taupe]

11 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Just had a listen. The guitar part is very Cemetery Gates. 

Isn't it though.

[The Bear]

Also reminds me of one of my favourite 90s songs and bands:

 

 

 

[Bellend Sebastian]

28 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Just had a listen. The guitar part is very Cemetery Gates. 

Completely, although I think it's far, far better than when Johnny Marr basically rehashed There is a Light That Never Goes out on that 'Hi, Hello' track, that was a stinker

[Bellend Sebastian]

4 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Also reminds me of one of my favourite 90s songs and bands:

 

 

 

Love this. Got the CD single kicking around somewhere

[The Bear]

Just now, Bellend Sebastian said:

Love this. Got the CD single kicking around somewhere

Me too! 

 

It was a shame (musically) they folded to start a family. Her voice was fantastic. 

Edited 6 August 2022 by The Bear

[Countryfox]

I know why they do it to their lips .. but is it just me that thinks it actually has the opposite effect ..  

 

 

[taupe]

Football related, Leicester related, maybe not so unpopular but perhaps unthinkable in some circles..

 

I'm starting to question the roles of both Ndidi and Vardy in our lineup. I wonder if the desire to get them in our side (for legacy reasons perhaps) is maybe holding back our development. Both have been pigeonholed and whilst Ndidi might be repurposed, I'm not so sure about Vardy. It might be time to think the unthinkable.

[Daggers]

16 minutes ago, taupe said:

Football related, Leicester related, maybe not so unpopular but perhaps unthinkable in some circles..

 

I'm starting to question the roles of both Ndidi and Vardy in our lineup. I wonder if the desire to get them in our side (for legacy reasons perhaps) is maybe holding back our development. Both have been pigeonholed and whilst Ndidi might be repurposed, I'm not so sure about Vardy. It might be time to think the unthinkable.

To put cream on before the jam?

To put milk in tea last?

To put the left shoe on first?

To cut the grass when it’s wet?

I’m going to need this cleared up before my life spirals into chaos.

 

[Jimothy]

30 minutes ago, taupe said:

Football related, Leicester related, maybe not so unpopular but perhaps unthinkable in some circles..

 

I'm starting to question the roles of both Ndidi and Vardy in our lineup. I wonder if the desire to get them in our side (for legacy reasons perhaps) is maybe holding back our development. Both have been pigeonholed and whilst Ndidi might be repurposed, I'm not so sure about Vardy. It might be time to think the unthinkable.

Ndidi still works really well in front of back 4, in a midfield 3. He's exceptional at winning the ball back and handing it over to players with better passing ability. When we play 3 at the back more is expected of him I terms of being involved in build up more. And that is a criticism of him, he's not good enough on the ball for that. So 4 at the back, midfield 3, then he's fine. 3 at the back or 2 in the centre of midfield, he's not good enough. Mendy should start those games.

 

Vardy is a tough one. Obviously unmatch in terms of his scoring ability, but he does seem a passenger at times. When he's coming back to get the ball or trying to hold it up he often loses it. We either keep trying to play a way to accommodate his style as he ages or we accept he may have to take a back seat. I think if we want the Daka signing to work out we need to play him more anyway.

[SpacedX]

1 minute ago, Facecloth said:

He's exceptional at winning the ball back and handing it over to players with better passing ability.

I think I may have spotted where the problem lies. 

[Guest Electric Yetis]

On 06/08/2022 at 12:42, The Bear said:

Also reminds me of one of my favourite 90s songs and bands:

 

 

 

Blows my mind that she's now almost 60! Seems like only yesterday that it was released.

[taupe]

1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

So 4 at the back, midfield 3, then he's fine. 3 at the back or 2 in the centre of midfield, he's not good enough.

Yes, that's kinda my point. The insistance on playing him to his best requires us to play a certain formation (which is the case for most players, true) but it shouldn't preclude us from playing that formation without him. The loyalty to him (or any player) could inhibit growth.