Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Jabfox]

1 hour ago, bovril said:

I realised this over lockdown. A lot of the bottled beers from smaller brewers are nicer than cask ale, which I guess reflects more on the pubs that keep it rather than the brewers themselves. 

Yes very true mate 

[TiffToff88]

Fire Pits should be banned. At least in built up residential areas. Some ****er near me has had one lit all evening. Means I've had to have all my windows and doors shut all evening because I didn't want my house and everything in it to stink of smoke 😡🤬

[Wymsey]

Really don't agree with the idea of giving pregnant women a financial incentive to give up smoking.

 

It's like offering a drug dealer money to give up drugs.

[Foxdiamond]

19 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Fire Pits should be banned. At least in built up residential areas. Some ****er near me has had one lit all evening. Means I've had to have all my windows and doors shut all evening because I didn't want my house and everything in it to stink of smoke 😡🤬

People just can't contain themselves without their lifestyle intruding into others spaces. Why set light to something in this weather. Odd that that in the past we celebrated cleaner air when coal fires were replaced now with a fascination with setting light to things

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Really don't agree with the idea of giving pregnant women a financial incentive to give up smoking.

 

It's like offering a drug dealer money to give up drugs.

Can you elaborate on this interesting anology a little more...

[tom27111]

Just now, filbertway said:

Can you elaborate on this interesting anology a little more...

 

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Really don't agree with the idea of giving pregnant women a financial incentive to give up smoking.

 

It's like offering a drug dealer money to give up drugs.

Do they offer that? Is that a thing?

 

Many years ago when I was managing a bar, a heavily pregnant woman came to the bar wanting Jager bombs.

 

I didn't know who they were for, could've been anyone.

 

It quickly became apparent they were for her. I refused her service. 

 

As a barman, you don't need an excuse, you can refuse to serve anyone you like, but a woman about to drop? No.

 

Not a lot of things in this world shock me. That did. 

[ozleicester]

6 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Really don't agree with the idea of giving pregnant women a financial incentive to give up smoking.

 

It's like offering a drug dealer money to give up drugs.

Depends if you want to help people and their children or just worried about $$

 

If giving cash ends the suffering and anti social lives of drug dealers...maybe it's a good investment 

[Daggers]

7 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Really don't agree with the idea of giving pregnant women a financial incentive to give up smoking.

 

It's like offering a drug dealer money to give up drugs.

I can sort you the research if you’d like me to get serious, but it saves the public purse money. It’s more efficacious than just encouraging women to use traditional quit methods, it’s more motivational than quit advice, and it’s cheaper than quit services & the cost placed on the NHS. You might not like the idea - but the point is about the end result.

 

 

[Bellend Sebastian]

3 hours ago, Daggers said:

I can sort you the research if you’d like me to get serious, but it saves the public purse money. It’s more efficacious than just encouraging women to use traditional quit methods, it’s more motivational than quit advice, and it’s cheaper than quit services & the cost placed on the NHS. You might not like the idea - but the point is about the end result.

 

 

It's like the letting prison inmates telephone their families - the data strongly evidenced that it cut reoffending rates, but the usual press outlets had a good old moan about that. 

 

Yes, we very much want something to be done about crime but only if it constitutes punishment.  If it's anything else we would prefer to have the crime, many thanks

Edited 19 July 2022 by Bellend Sebastian

[ARM1968]

The Earth isn’t flat. That offends quite a considerable number of Americans. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

1 hour ago, ARM1968 said:

The Earth isn’t flat. That offends quite a considerable number of Americans. 

 

[SpacedX]

2 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

 

The late Paul Darrow - Avon from Blake's 7. 

[Claridge]

15 hours ago, Daggers said:

I can sort you the research if you’d like me to get serious, but it saves the public purse money. It’s more efficacious than just encouraging women to use traditional quit methods, it’s more motivational than quit advice, and it’s cheaper than quit services & the cost placed on the NHS. You might not like the idea - but the point is about the end result.

 

 

Did a lot of work on quitting smoking and the nhs. Disaster if everyone gives up smoking. Most people will end up dying of cancer or heart problems in n their 80s costing the nhs a bomb .much better if people snuff it early, before pension age or old age when they are going to use the nhs a lot. If you smoke carry on and if you don’t start now, it’s never too late to help your country

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, Claridge said:

Did a lot of work on quitting smoking and the nhs. Disaster if everyone gives up smoking. Most people will end up dying of cancer or heart problems in n their 80s costing the nhs a bomb .much better if people snuff it early, before pension age or old age when they are going to use the nhs a lot. If you smoke carry on and if you don’t start now, it’s never too late to help your country

In this particular case though, women smoking during pregnancy can lead to issues with premature birth etc. which is very expensive and also very soon. 

[Foxdiamond]

On 18/07/2022 at 22:54, Foxdiamond said:

People just can't contain themselves without their lifestyle intruding into others spaces. Why set light to something in this weather. Odd that that in the past we celebrated cleaner air when coal fires were replaced now with a fascination with setting light to things

Also portable BBQ. Not just because of the risk of fire during the hot spell. You go to an open space or beach to enjoy the outside and selfish people have this smoke blowing over others if they mind or not. How many of said BBQs then carelessly disposed of. 

[Finnegan]

27 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Also portable BBQ. Not just because of the risk of fire during the hot spell. You go to an open space or beach to enjoy the outside and selfish people have this smoke blowing over others if they mind or not. How many of said BBQs then carelessly disposed of. 

 

 

[Foxdiamond]

6 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

Definitely part of the problem is we seem less considerate. Maybe we can trace the change back to the Thatcher years. May just be there is more stuff that people can show off with

[Daggers]

3 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Definitely part of the problem is we seem less considerate. Maybe we can trace the change back to the Thatcher years. May just be there is more stuff that people can show off with

As much as I’d like to blame Thatch for everything from the ruining of local communities to the shrinking of a Mars bar - I really don’t think littering is her fault. 
 

https://youtu.be/Nl7FmbrMwjc

[taupe]

I think in fairness to the 'iron lady' (and believe me, I really don't want to be fair) I do think this well known quote is often (mis)understood - and used as a stick, proof even. Heard in context, it is much less repugnant than it appears in isolation.

 

Society is a construct built by, and upon, individuals. There is no building with a sign 'Society' outside it, if you like. The point was more that the individual has to decide their own actions before any recourse to society or state. It's a belief that fits as part of Tory ideology, an ideology that tries to empower, indeed believes in, the individual.  I do think it is based on an false assumption though; that is, that everyone is able to, has the means to, help themselves. It also assumes 'support' only means financial; again, a very Tory-like take. I do think it perhaps speaks more to privilege than any inherent cruelty though.

 

I've recently been very moved to see society in action, on the death of a neighbour's husband.  The bereaved wasn't looking for handouts or benefits, they were not calling on the state - but society was very much there for her, and very much in existence.  

[Foxdiamond]

35 minutes ago, Daggers said:

As much as I’d like to blame Thatch for everything from the ruining of local communities to the shrinking of a Mars bar - I really don’t think littering is her fault. 
 

https://youtu.be/Nl7FmbrMwjc

The New Seekers. Do you remember when Thatcher was filmed picking up litter. The nice clean bits of paper had been placed for her to pick up for the photo opportunity. Actually I think too many Brits are litter louts.

[Free Falling Foxes]

2 hours ago, taupe said:

There is no building with a sign 'Society' outside it

[Foxdiamond]

1 hour ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

If you like a decent glass of plonk don't forget The Wine Society 

[Silebyfox_89]

Women's international football kits are now better than men's.

[Footballwipe]

Amateur football in the UK deserves to die because of the sheer level of abuse dished out to referees at that level. 

 

I genuinely can't wait until there's such a shortage of referees that leagues cannot properly function. It'll be chickens coming home to roost, and no less than the arsehole players who slag of referees pretending that they're professional football players deserve.

[Corky]

25 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Amateur football in the UK deserves to die because of the sheer level of abuse dished out to referees at that level. 

 

I genuinely can't wait until there's such a shortage of referees that leagues cannot properly function. It'll be chickens coming home to roost, and no less than the arsehole players who slag of referees pretending that they're professional football players deserve.

I've no idea why players and coaches at that level get so worked up about it all. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.