Shakespeares Tactics

[AKCJ]

Basically we've comfortably won the 2 games we were expected to win and we marginally lost the 3 games we were expecting to lose.

[Ashley]

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Basically we've comfortably won the 2 games we were expected to win and we marginally lost the 3 games we were expecting to lose.

This.

 

Standard Leicester fan/some on foxestalk mentality.

 

 

[dedlock]

A good,provocative first post. It ignores the limitations faced by CS with both DD and Iborra injured. 

CS may have shown his inexperience but what if he had he been able to bring on,say, Iborra? The scenario at Ar#e or Manure was the type for which VI would have been well suited to see out the game.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, dedlock said:

A good,provocative first post. It ignores the limitations faced by CS with both DD and Iborra injured. 

CS may have shown his inexperience but what if he had he been able to bring on,say, Iborra? The scenario at Ar#e or Manure was the type for which VI would have been well suited to see out the game.

I really hope so.

 

Seems the expectations are very high for Vincent Iborra. Personally I feel Adrien will be the much better CM and of our new players Iheanacho (if he's ever fit) could tear up the league in both goals and assists to Vardy whilst Maguire blocks up the defensive end (and scores from corners).

[foxoffderby]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

We conceded two goals in three minutes of making the substitution, the first literally a minute after the change. People act like we surrendered the initiative we didn't have time to! The goals could have come whether he changed it or not as it was about poor marking. Same goes for united where N'didi switched off at a set piece and we're a goal behind.

I disagree bringing on Nacho was a mistake I think we were winning at the time. Granted James was tired and replaced him for another DM. We also should of bought on Gray for Mahrez and taken MA off for Chilwell tightened things up and gone to a genuine 451.

[Babylon]

We're yet to lose to a team that didn't finished in last seasons top 7 under Shakepeare.

 

20 games

8 against the top 7 (1 win, 6 losses)

9 games against the rest (7 wins, 2 draws)

3 games in Europe  (1, loss, 1 draw, 1 win) against regular champions league semi finalists and a team unbeaten in Europe for about 3 years.

 

Room for improvement against the top teams, comfortable against the rest so far.

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, foxoffderby said:

I disagree bringing on Nacho was a mistake I think we were winning at the time. Granted James was tired and replaced him for another DM. We also should of bought on Gray for Mahrez and taken MA off for Chilwell tightened things up and gone to a genuine 451.

To be fair I'm wrong anyway as the first Sub was Okazaki. I still don't think we can know for sure the goals wouldn't have come. It's not like they hadn't already scored two goals as it was!

[Koke]

We lost at Arsenal due to terrible defending for the Ramsey goal and Giroud bullying Maguire for the winner.

 

Even if he hadn't made those changes those goals would hsve still gone in.

[Koke]

1 hour ago, RumbleFox said:

I love Albrighton and Okazaki and if you asked me right now to name our best TEAM (not necessarily best individual 11 but a best TEAM) I would probably name them both in it as they are so vital to the way we play.

 

However, I have been thinking (a dangerous pastime I know) and is there an argument to start games with Gray and Nacho and then bring on Okazaki and Alrighton to just both go proper fvcking run around mental for 20 minutes each to help us see games out?

 

X

 

Agree. At home against bottom half teams there is a case to be made. Away to top 6 teams Albrighton must play from the start.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Koke said:

We lost at Arsenal due to terrible defending for the Ramsey goal and Giroud bullying Maguire for the winner.

 

Even if he hadn't made those changes those goals would hsve still gone in.

 

You fail to take into account the undeniable truth of cause and effect.

 

Once the changes were made, the entire future (of the planet) was altered. Each little action sent ripples into time which resulted in Maguire being bullied by Giroud.

 

Without the changes would everything and everyone have been in exactly the same positions on the pitch with exactly the same mental and physical states? No. Shakey unknowingly set the events in motion (or more accurately allowed the motion to continue) that led to our defeat whether this leads to his own downfall or to a premier league title is as yet unknown but the course is set.

 

It is an unalterable state which he (and anyone else) was incapable of stopping due to his automatic reaction to the causal action.

 

It's like fate but backed by science. 

[RumbleFox]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

We're yet to lose to a team that didn't finished in last seasons top 7 under Shakepeare.

 

20 games

8 against the top 7 (1 win, 6 losses)

9 games against the rest (7 wins, 2 draws)

3 games in Europe  (1, loss, 1 draw, 1 win) against regular champions league semi finalists and a team unbeaten in Europe for about 3 years.

 

Room for improvement against the top teams, comfortable against the rest so far.

Thanks Babs, good post.  That pretty much says it all eh?  We are pretty much a 7th/8th placed team and results so far have attested to that.  I know we all want to win the league again and I know we all want to beat the big teams but it is not possible consistently.  Of course we'll beat one of them from time to time but we are Leicester City, we cannot compete (yet) with the big boys on a CONSISTENT basis.

 

X

[Stadt]

37 minutes ago, FIF said:

 

You fail to take into account the undeniable truth of cause and effect.

 

Once the changes were made, the entire future (of the planet) was altered. Each little action sent ripples into time which resulted in Maguire being bullied by Giroud.

 

Without the changes would everything and everyone have been in exactly the same positions on the pitch with exactly the same mental and physical states? No. Shakey unknowingly set the events in motion (or more accurately allowed the motion to continue) that led to our defeat whether this leads to his own downfall or to a premier league title is as yet unknown but the course is set.

 

It is an unalterable state which he (and anyone else) was incapable of stopping due to his automatic reaction to the causal action.

 

It's like fate but backed by science. 

 

We were far too deep and unable to hold the ball or even clear it properly, we lose that game playing 442, 451, 543, 652 or whatever because we just tried to defend against an Arsenal side that too strong to not offer any attacking threat against 

[4everfox]

Some dreadful posts on here recently regarding Shakespeare. Fed up of seeing this crap, how do you block people? 

[Stadt]

2 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

Some dreadful posts on here recently regarding Shakespeare. Fed up of seeing this crap, how do you block people? 

See the little red X in the corner? Press that 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Anyone would think we were playing free flowing possession based football the way they go on

You're right.  My main concern is that we're not playing like Barcelona and I cant figure out why that is.  That's my only issue with our performances.

 

Have you ever watched Messi play?  I was just thinking to myself during each game, why don't they all just do stuff like wot that Messi does?  Its stupid that they dont.

 

Thanks for your input babs.  Unusually lazy of you bru

[4everfox]

1 minute ago, Wookie said:

See the little red X in the corner? Press that 

I'm not seeing it. Oh well, looks like I'll just have to continue debunking the delusional posts regarding Shakespeare's job security. 

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

You're right.  My main concern is that we're not playing like Barcelona and I cant figure out why that is.  That's my only issue with our performances.

 

Have you ever watched Messi play?  I was just thinking to myself during each game, why don't they all just do stuff like wot that Messi does?  Its stupid that they dont.

 

Thanks for your input babs.  Unusually lazy of you bru

We've been playing a defensive style of football for several seasons now, I'm not sure it needs any more explaining.

[chicagofox]

I'm not sure how anyone could have the impression that Shakespeare loves Slimani.  He has started one league game and was subbed at half-time.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

Just now, Babylon said:

We've been playing a defensive style of football for several seasons now, I'm not sure it needs any more explaining.

Thats an oversimplification

 

Yes we play in a defensive style, but there is a clear difference between when the team plays positive football and negative football

 

Taking for granted that there are periods in matches when the team is going forward more and others when we're up against it, the criticisms of certain substitutions are nothing to do with people having grandiose ideas about our style of play.

 

Nobody thinks we should change our style, just dont want to see changes that express a complete lack of faith in the team's ability, such as against Arsenal.  That lack of confidence basically meant we were not going to score again in that match regardless and it seeped through the team

 

Its only this thats the worry.  I'm happy for us to play defensively:  its what we do.  But I dont want to see 10 men behind the ball for 30 minutes every time we're one up. 

[ZeGuy]

Some quality threads the last few days. 

[dedlock]

The point was made earlier that in the champions season we won a lot of games by the odd goal,I.e. resolute defending. We have since adopted similar tactics but without the defensive resilience. This may be the loss of N'G who was immense or a combination of other factors. We will need to adapt and, if we aspire to C L or Europa football show more ability to retain the ball and much more flair.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

At this stage we need to wait and see how the next few games go.

 

That aside please stop saying Shakeys inexperienced. 

 

He's been in the professional game for ever; he's in his 50s ffs, nothing he does should be put down to lack of experience.

 

If he doesn't know what's what by now, that would make him the wrong man for the job.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

33 minutes ago, dedlock said:

The point was made earlier that in the champions season we won a lot of games by the odd goal,I.e. resolute defending. We have since adopted similar tactics but without the defensive resilience. This may be the loss of N'G who was immense or a combination of other factors. We will need to adapt and, if we aspire to C L or Europa football show more ability to retain the ball and much more flair.

We need a midfielder who can win the ball more than is the case at present.

 

Maybe another man in their may help, perish the thought.

[weller54]

20 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

At this stage we need to wait and see how the next few games go.

 

That aside please stop saying Shakeys inexperienced. 

 

He's been in the professional game for ever; he's in his 50s ffs, nothing he does should be put down to lack of experience.

 

If he doesn't know what's what by now, that would make him the wrong man for the job.

Personally,  

I think Shakespeare lacks experience. 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Another drama queen wallowing in misery picking and choosing results and performances to fit a ridiculous opinion.