Shakespeares Tactics

[Suzie the Fox]

Aggh I so wished there was a thumbs down icon. I'm sure I would have used it aLOT in this thread. 

 

 

[dedlock]

49 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

We need a midfielder who can win the ball more than is the case at present.

 

Maybe another man in their may help, perish the thought.

Iborra looked calm and played DF with assurance the other night for the reserves (sorry, development team) He will,hopefully,be fit for first team duty and we can see his quality.

 

 We should also have Huth back soon, but it was clear last season that he and Morgan need protection in front. Maguire may cope better but, whether it is 3 in MF or 2 with 3 in front of them, we need to play a system that counters how other teams set up.Over the last few months we have been overrun in MF too often 

[sylofox]

3 hours ago, FIF said:

 

You fail to take into account the undeniable truth of cause and effect.

 

Once the changes were made, the entire future (of the planet) was altered. Each little action sent ripples into time which resulted in Maguire being bullied by Giroud.

 

Without the changes would everything and everyone have been in exactly the same positions on the pitch with exactly the same mental and physical states? No. Shakey unknowingly set the events in motion (or more accurately allowed the motion to continue) that led to our defeat whether this leads to his own downfall or to a premier league title is as yet unknown but the course is set.

 

It is an unalterable state which he (and anyone else) was incapable of stopping due to his automatic reaction to the causal action.

 

It's like fate but backed by science. 

So what your saying is 3 Thai prostitutes won us the premier league.

 

Did they get a car each as well?

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, sylofox said:

So what your saying is 3 Thai prostitutes won us the premier league.

 

Did they get a car each as well?

I expect they got their wedge in advance ..........................

[coolhandfox]

12 hours ago, Rabray said:

Against Arsenal we were winning. Shakes decided to throw the game away by taking off a striker and replacing him with a midfielder. Arsenal man marked Vardy and sent everyone else upfield. We lost. Shakes realised his error and put a striker back on. Too late. We lost. Why change at all?

Against Sheffield Utd he did the same. Striker off. Midfielder on. We soon conceded a goal. Fortunately Sheffield are not a Premiership side or it could have been worse.

Against Man Utd looking at a point, very nice at Old Trafford, the same tactics. Striker off. Midfielder on. Then, Slimani replaces Vardy??? We lost.

Against Chelsea he paired Vardy with our worst striker whose main asset was missing sitters. So he did. Eventually he removed him and guess what? He replaced him with a midfielder with Ulloah and Iheanacho rotting on the bench. Iheanacho on 9 minutes from the end. What‘s he supposed to do in 9 minutes? We lost.

Do we see a pattern here? Apart from the fact shakes loves Slimani. These are the negative tactics that Pearson used to drag us to the bottom of the Premiership for 14 weeks. Finally realising his mistake he went on the attack. The result was the ‘Great Escape’.

Who was whispering in his ear? Shakespeare.

Who is now dragging us down? Shakespeare.

Who was really responsible for those 14 weeks at the bottom? Pearson or Shakespeare?

Where are we now?

In the relegation zone.

Who put us there?

Huddersfield will be the decider.

You were doing well, until I read about Slimani being our worst striker........

 

Haven't you seen Musa? 

[Ric Flair]

22 hours ago, maddog said:

Taking a striker off for a midfielder away at The Emirates when you're winning the game with less than 10 minutes left isn't negative, its what nearly all the Premier League managers would do (including the great Jose Mourinho). 

 

If Shakey didn't make that defensive change to shore it up and see the game out and we still lost, which is very possible away at Arsenal who regularly go on 10 minute bursts of attacking brilliance throughout the season, then he would be called out for not making that change. 

 

Guy can't win really. Let's see how we do against the mid table / relegation sides for several games before we pass judgement. The one game against Brighton in that vain so far was an easy win.

Fair enormously though but good managers get it right and at the minute his substitutions are horrific. If Andy King is ever the answer then you're losing at home then heaven help us. 

[Bunyip]

21 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Ulloa, still scratching my head over his new contract.

Musa

Okazaki can't hit a barn door unless from 5 yards

In terms of what Ulloah and Okazaki have done for this club compared to slimani, there is no comparison. Ulloah was our top scorer the year we did the great escape, without his goals we would have been relegated, and Okazaki was integral to our title winning team.

 

Now tell me what slimani has done? I'm still scratching my head at the thought that this club paid 30 million for him. Who in gods name did that ?

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

8 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

In terms of what Ulloah and Okazaki have done for this club compared to slimani, there is no comparison. Ulloah was our top scorer the year we did the great escape, without his goals we would have been relegated, and Okazaki was integral to our title winning team.

 

Now tell me what slimani has done? I'm still scratching my head at the thought that this club paid 30 million for him. Who in gods name did that ?

I'm pretty sure he was our only goal threat in the first half of last season

[lgfualol]

1 hour ago, Bunyip said:

In terms of what Ulloah and Okazaki have done for this club compared to slimani, there is no comparison. Ulloah was our top scorer the year we did the great escape, without his goals we would have been relegated, and Okazaki was integral to our title winning team.

 

Now tell me what slimani has done? I'm still scratching my head at the thought that this club paid 30 million for him. Who in gods name did that ?

I was judging them based on their football, not past achievements for Leicester. It's sentiment like this that gives players like Ulloa new contracts. Okazaki and Ulloa wouldn't get near any other starting 11s in this league but Slim would. 

 

30m was overpaying, but that's what you get when you leave a transfer until the last day of the transfer window. Rudkin ****ed up there, and managed to **** up again with Silva. 

 

[Bunyip]

31 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

I was judging them based on their football, not past achievements for Leicester. It's sentiment like this that gives players like Ulloa new contracts. Okazaki and Ulloa wouldn't get near any other starting 11s in this league but Slim would. 

 

30m was overpaying, but that's what you get when you leave a transfer until the last day of the transfer window. Rudkin ****ed up there, and managed to **** up again with Silva. 

 

Did you see Slimani in that first half against Chelsea ? Slimani should never get anywhere near the first eleven. He has been dogsh*t since he came here. Slow one dimensional and has never been a partner for Vardy, quite why Shakespear played him against Chelsea is beyond me. Still, at least Shakespear saw the light and never brought him back on for the second half. If it were not for his price tag he would never get a game again.

[HighPeakFox]

50 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

Did you see Slimani in that first half against Chelsea ? Slimani should never get anywhere near the first eleven. He has been dogsh*t since he came here. Slow one dimensional and has never been a partner for Vardy, quite why Shakespear played him against Chelsea is beyond me. Still, at least Shakespear saw the light and never brought him back on for the second half. If it were not for his price tag he would never get a game again.

I think you must have watched that game with prejudice. 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

52 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

Did you see Slimani in that first half against Chelsea ? Slimani should never get anywhere near the first eleven. He has been dogsh*t since he came here. Slow one dimensional and has never been a partner for Vardy, quite why Shakespear played him against Chelsea is beyond me. Still, at least Shakespear saw the light and never brought him back on for the second half. If it were not for his price tag he would never get a game again.

I remember him almost scoring and doing a wicked back-heel one two with Mahrez. 

[Vestan Pance]

55 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

Did you see Slimani in that first half against Chelsea ? Slimani should never get anywhere near the first eleven. He has been dogsh*t since he came here. Slow one dimensional and has never been a partner for Vardy, quite why Shakespear played him against Chelsea is beyond me. Still, at least Shakespear saw the light and never brought him back on for the second half. If it were not for his price tag he would never get a game again.

To be fair yes he was pretty bad but the manager was asking him to play a game he is useless at, who do you blame? If at some stage we work out how to play further up the pitch and actually put crosses in, he will score goals as he did for Sporting.

[Babylon]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Fair enormously though but good managers get it right and at the minute his substitutions are horrific. If Andy King is ever the answer then you're losing at home then heaven help us. 

If injury and the DOF hadn't screwed him over King wouldn't even be on the bench. But if he's wanting to put another body in the middle he's about our only choice.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, Bunyip said:

Did you see Slimani in that first half against Chelsea ? Slimani should never get anywhere near the first eleven. He has been dogsh*t since he came here. Slow one dimensional and has never been a partner for Vardy, quite why Shakespear played him against Chelsea is beyond me. Still, at least Shakespear saw the light and never brought him back on for the second half. If it were not for his price tag he would never get a game again.

I saw the games last season where he had the best per minute goals and assists ratio.

[Beechey]

That first post hurts my skin

[RonnieTodger]

I was delighted for Shakespeare when he got the job, but I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. We did marginally lose to Chelsea and Arsenal, but the United game was men against boys. The Silva shambles isn't his fault, but we are far too negative and offer little threat going forward. Arsenal is the exception to this, but that game was a battle of "whose defence is worse". 

I completely expected us to have 3 points and be in the next round of the cup at this stage, but there hasn't been much inspiration as yet. Huddersfield is a big game and I'm hoping we see a different, braver Leicester. We're not the underdog, but we're not at home. It's different to anything we've faced so far in the league. 

 

I hope he's smart and brave enough to make the right decisions when necessary. I think we're in for a fairly mediocre season and it's well overdue. 

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

I was delighted for Shakespeare when he got the job, but I'm a bit underwhelmed so far. We did marginally lose to Chelsea and Arsenal, but the United game was men against boys. The Silva shambles isn't his fault, but we are far too negative and offer little threat going forward. Arsenal is the exception to this, but that game was a battle of "whose defence is worse". 

I completely expected us to have 3 points and be in the next round of the cup at this stage, but there hasn't been much inspiration as yet. Huddersfield is a big game and I'm hoping we see a different, braver Leicester. We're not the underdog, but we're not at home. It's different to anything we've faced so far in the league. 

 

I hope he's smart and brave enough to make the right decisions when necessary. I think we're in for a fairly mediocre season and it's well overdue. 

I know people keep saying we've been too defensive, but we had more shots against Chelsea than Everton. We had more shots against United than Stoke, West Ham, Swansea. More shots against Arsenal than Stoke, Bournemouth. Some of our finishing and decision making in the final third has let us down. So has some shockingly bad defending, many of which can be attributed to individuals errors.

 

[Bunyip]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

I think you must have watched that game with prejudice. 

No, I always watch a game with an open mind and optimism. That first half put paid to my optimism.  What ever the reason Slimani was nothing but a passenger and certainly will never make a partner for Vardy. While it is admirable for fans on here to stick up for him the fact that he never even got back on the pitch after half time said it all. 

 

It wasn't just me all around me in sk4  fans were saying much the same thing.I think we have to face it that we bought a Turkey and a very expensive one at that. Time to bite the bullet and get rid.

[Bunyip]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I know people keep saying we've been too defensive, but we had more shots against Chelsea than Everton. We had more shots against United than Stoke, West Ham, Swansea. More shots against Arsenal than Stoke, Bournemouth. Some of our finishing and decision making in the final third has let us down. So has some shockingly bad defending, many of which can be attributed to individuals errors.

 

A statistic often hides the bigger picture I'm afraid. Stoke got a draw something we never looked like getting. Chelsea? they could have moved up a gear anytime they wanted to. Arsenal ? was the last time we played to win and just bad substitutions cost us that game. Shakespear picks the team and the tactics and so far has been found negative and wanting in tactics and tactical substitutions.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 hour ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

I remember him almost scoring and doing a wicked back-heel one two with Mahrez. 

Sadly none of the above resulted in anything towards a goal or points.

[HighPeakFox]

21 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

No, I always watch a game with an open mind and optimism. That first half put paid to my optimism.  What ever the reason Slimani was nothing but a passenger and certainly will never make a partner for Vardy. While it is admirable for fans on here to stick up for him the fact that he never even got back on the pitch after half time said it all. 

 

It wasn't just me all around me in sk4  fans were saying much the same thing.I think we have to face it that we bought a Turkey and a very expensive one at that. Time to bite the bullet and get rid.

I agree that in parts his touch was poor, but you must have missed him tackling Kante and sprinting upfield to give Mahrez an option having done so. In that respect, at least, he was NOT a passenger. 

 

SK4 being an echo chamber for you doesnt really count as evidence

[Babylon]

11 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

A statistic often hides the bigger picture I'm afraid. Stoke got a draw something we never looked like getting. Chelsea? they could have moved up a gear anytime they wanted to. Arsenal ? was the last time we played to win and just bad substitutions cost us that game. Shakespear picks the team and the tactics and so far has been found negative and wanting in tactics and tactical substitutions.

Our style of play against those teams wasn't greatly different to any of the others. Stoke didn't try and attack united, they just sat back, low possession and tried to counter them. It worked better for them on the day. Just as sitting back and doing nothing worked better for them against Arsenal, where they barely attempted to get out of their own half.

 

There is plenty of room for improvement, but we're also missing what will probably be the core of the team until January in Huth, Iborra and Iheanacho. Hopefully that means we take those chances more often, that we have created and keep concentration a bit more the other end.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

30 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Sadly none of the above resulted in anything towards a goal or points.

True, wasnt  much of an argument tbf was it?

 

When he first came in for us he was scoring goals.  We just need to play him like that again.

 

Second half, getting on the end of crosses, thats how we need to use him.  He's not a starter for us atm because of how we play

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

If injury and the DOF hadn't screwed him over King wouldn't even be on the bench. But if he's wanting to put another body in the middle he's about our only choice.

Fair enough but if you've got an inferior defensive midfielder to what you'd like, it might be better to concentrate on what you're good at rather than what you're weak at, i.e go for another goal rather than sitting back and inviting us to be attacked. Right now we are more suited to you score 3 we'll score 4 than we are at pinching results, most certainly against the best clubs.