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[mazarron fox]

Just thought I would throw it out there. I am 60 and have been supporting the club many years through thick and thin. Clearly the title win and following them in Europe was a dream come true. Now we have started to drift back towards our assumed status i.e. low to mid table and or even heaven forbid a yo yo club will the fans ever be happy again?. Our fans don't seem to have any more patience and lots don't seem to be enjoying the crazy ride that is LCFC. A player signs and is quickly written off, is the manager right? , have the owners lost the desire?. Reading foxestalk is becoming very depressing with what the fans who once liked to hope for now seem to expect.

We gatecrashed the big boys party in spectacular fashion but we are not one of the big boys because of it! Yes it will always be our bragging rights that can never be taken away but don't let expectation ruin future dreams!

 

 

[mazarron fox]

Just switched the match on and people seem to be passing to the same colored shirts. Can anyone tell me if this is allowed or can we challenge it as an unfair advantage ?

[weller54]

2 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

Just thought I would throw it out there. I am 60 and have been supporting the club many years through thick and thin. Clearly the title win and following them in Europe was a dream come true. Now we have started to drift back towards our assumed status i.e. low to mid table and or even heaven forbid a yo yo club will the fans ever be happy again?. Our fans don't seem to have any more patience and lots don't seem to be enjoying the crazy ride that is LCFC. A player signs and is quickly written off, is the manager right? , have the owners lost the desire?. Reading foxestalk is becoming very depressing with what the fans who once liked to hope for now seem to expect.

We gatecrashed the big boys party in spectacular fashion but we are not one of the big boys because of it! Yes it will always be our bragging rights that can never be taken away but don't let expectation ruin future dreams!

 

 

Don't think it's too much to ask (or of great expectation) to see your team put a few passes together and play with a little flair... This season our style (or total lack of it) has been thoroughly depressing! 

[RODNEY FERNIO]

13 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

Just thought I would throw it out there. I am 60 and have been supporting the club many years through thick and thin. Clearly the title win and following them in Europe was a dream come true. Now we have started to drift back towards our assumed status i.e. low to mid table and or even heaven forbid a yo yo club will the fans ever be happy again?. Our fans don't seem to have any more patience and lots don't seem to be enjoying the crazy ride that is LCFC. A player signs and is quickly written off, is the manager right? , have the owners lost the desire?. Reading foxestalk is becoming very depressing with what the fans who once liked to hope for now seem to expect.

We gatecrashed the big boys party in spectacular fashion but we are not one of the big boys because of it! Yes it will always be our bragging rights that can never be taken away but don't let expectation ruin future dreams!

 

 

Not one of the big boys granted. But as we are currently ranked the 19th wealthiest club in World football I don't think its unreasonable

to expect a bit more than we are currently getting.

[TAFKA Castroneves]

I think it's very interesting at the moment, i think there is a "heightened" state of our fans - that is no doubt due to the fact that not many clubs of our size get such an opportunity in the Prem to really establish themselves as a top 10+ side. Fans reactions aren't founded on the fact that we aren't challenging for the title again, I actually believe it's more of concern that we've got ourselves into a great position to make ourselves a very stable & attractive club (which we weren't just a mere few years ago) and we are showing signs of springing leaks when our boat now should be made of diamonds.

 

Ironically i'm feeling more upbeat about everything since Big Nige joined Lovren - as at least we've got a potential backup plan now

 

a decent win tommorrow and we'll all settle down a bit im sure.

[David Hankey]

Are we really saying; Leicester City have found their true level?

 

And all these folk carrying on about Pearson, he's been tried, tested and failed when it came to the big test.

 

Looking backwards will not take this Club forward.

[TAFKA Castroneves]

5 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Are we really saying; Leicester City have found their true level?

 

And all these folk carrying on about Pearson, he's been tried, tested and failed when it came to the big test.

 

Looking backwards will not take this Club forward.

 

No, i think everyone has said in their posts what they have said - rather than you summarising it all into something it isn't

 

It would probably not be best for everyones moral to turn this thread into another Pearson argument as well so i'll stay stum despite your baiting attempts

 

So really what i'm saying is...your post kinda didn't offer anything to the conversation that was interesting im afraid - have you got any points that apply to the original poster, perhaps anything about fan psychology right now in regard to the original question?

[HoustonFox]

56 minutes ago, TAFKA Castroneves said:

I think it's very interesting at the moment, i think there is a "heightened" state of our fans - that is no doubt due to the fact that not many clubs of our size get such an opportunity in the Prem to really establish themselves as a top 10+ side. Fans reactions aren't founded on the fact that we aren't challenging for the title again, I actually believe it's more of concern that we've got ourselves into a great position to make ourselves a very stable & attractive club (which we weren't just a mere few years ago) and we are showing signs of springing leaks when our boat now should be made of diamonds.

 

Ironically i'm feeling more upbeat about everything since Big Nige joined Lovren - as at least we've got a potential backup plan now

 

a decent win tommorrow and we'll all settle down a bit im sure.

Continuing your analogy, we are very close to the Titanic. A feat of wonder and engineering that created hope and a real transformation of what was to come. The day she launched was a marvel and it was onwards and upwards as the journey across the Atlantic began. I just hope we avoid the iceberg that could be on the horizon... 

[Nod.E]

The overreactions on here are embarrassing, but then I suppose those of an unstable persuasion are more likely to shout louder.

 

Yes it is a little disappointing that we haven't faired better in the games against big teams, but give it time. We have a decent run ahead and can build some momentum. Panic if we're still struggling come Christmas.

 

That said Silva would help no end.

[DatfoxesKid23]

we are crashing because our club doesn't have the experience to deal with our title win. If we think about it many of our problems have been created by our lack of experience at being a bigger club. I would elaborate but there is no need.

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, Nod.E said:

The overreactions on here are embarrassing, but then I suppose those of an unstable persuasion are more likely to shout louder.

 

Yes it is a little disappointing that we haven't faired better in the games against big teams, but give it time. We have a decent run ahead and can build some momentum. Panic if we're still struggling come Christmas.

 

That said Silva would help no end.

Its not the results that are the issue, it's how poorly we are playing. Forgetting the games against the big teams, we have beat Brighton and drawn away to Bournemouth and Huddersfield. On the face of it, that isn't terrible at all. But what is terrible is that we were totally outplayed by both Bournemouth and Huddersfield. With the players we have and the money we've spent we should not be being outplayed by teams like these. And the excuse about Drinkwater and Silva, while isn't an ideal situation, is not enough to justify how poor we've played so far this season. I want Shakey to do well and turn it around but it looks unlikely and i can totally understand why many fans are losing patience so early. There seems no plan and no idea how to win games at the moment. 

[fazzyfox]

I can appreciate that some of the criticism can seem to be coming from a position of an almost arrogant unrealistic and disproportionately worried stance.

 

It should be remembered though that our "starting point" for this post title era began with the club in fantastic shape. Confidence sky high, money sloshing in from all angles, our name known around the world, a Champions League golden ticket, a squad of talented players, a modern stadium and a fantastic fan base. Of course it also brought with it problems of sorts, players getting their heads turned by bigger clubs, higher salaries etc, a challenge to everyones motivation to continue achieving but still all things considered a fantastic starting point nonetheless.

 

What is absolutely excrutiating is the unravelling realisation that it looks like we're going to **** up this opportunity. With each mediochre signing, staff sackings / appointments, hesitancy to increase capacity, we step further and further away from the promised land back into the land of West Bromwich Albion and Stoke City. The chance to attract players with the opportunity of Champions League football has gone now, we did outstandingly well in the tournament but as far as using it as a crux to attract top players we blew it. 

 

There have been positives, we kept Vardy, Mahrez and Schmeichel, we have begun to address the problem of the aging CB's by signing Maguire and I'm sure the club will claim that internally they are a far more professionally organised and oiled machine than ever before (if only they could send a fax on time...). Maybe some of the academy signings will prove to be top draw and the improvement in training facilities and our world wide reputation have helped in that recruitment process.

 

I believe it's that frustration, that we're blowing a fantastic opportunity with bad decision after bad decision that leads to the seemingly over the top and ungrateful criticism.

 

I don't think it's unrealistic to have taken that new starting point and aimed to establish ourselves as challengers to Everton for 7th place, aside from West Ham being gifted a huge stadium the set of cards we had been dealt were better than anyone else outside of the top 6. Our ambitions should be higher than how to crack the conundrum that is beating Bournemouth. 

[ithuriel]

If there was a plan to push us forwards it seems to have been dropped by the wayside as we just cruise along on the back of winning the league, whilst everyone in power at the club  looks to have taken their eye off the ball.

That is the feeling I am getting at present anyway.

 

[Kitchandro]

12 hours ago, TAFKA Castroneves said:

I think it's very interesting at the moment, i think there is a "heightened" state of our fans - that is no doubt due to the fact that not many clubs of our size get such an opportunity in the Prem to really establish themselves as a top 10+ side. Fans reactions aren't founded on the fact that we aren't challenging for the title again, I actually believe it's more of concern that we've got ourselves into a great position to make ourselves a very stable & attractive club (which we weren't just a mere few years ago) and we are showing signs of springing leaks when our boat now should be made of diamonds.

 

Ironically i'm feeling more upbeat about everything since Big Nige joined Lovren - as at least we've got a potential backup plan now

 

a decent win tommorrow and we'll all settle down a bit im sure.

 

 

 

 

[Livid]

17 months ago, Champions of England

Quarter Finalist in the Champions League

Currently in the relegation zone.

 

I think it would be hard to find a fan base anywhere that would just accept our current position.

 

It's argued are fans are fickle and ungrateful, I could also argue that some are unambitious and are quite happy for us to return to our traditional 'place' in the footballing pyramid.

[NeilLCFC]

14 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Are we really saying; Leicester City have found their true level?

 

And all these folk carrying on about Pearson, he's been tried, tested and failed when it came to the big test.

 

Looking backwards will not take this Club forward.

Failed?! Finishing 14th is a great achievement for any newly promoted side!

[somebum]

I think its insulting to the memory and achievement of winning the title that sections of our support are happy falling back into mid table obscurity. As you say this was a lifechanging unbelievable sensation but it shouldnt be simply put under lock and key in some sentimental memory bank. 

 

The fans are rightly feeling down that as a result of this massive boost to reputation and finances we showed no ambition to kick on. Look at our management team for Christ sake..rubbish. Instead of buying and breeding in top youngsters we brought a load of crap

[somebum]

14 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Are we really saying; Leicester City have found their true level?

 

And all these folk carrying on about Pearson, he's been tried, tested and failed when it came to the big test.

 

Looking backwards will not take this Club forward.

Id take Pearson back over this cnut any day. He might not be a tactical genius but he can build a strong squad .. like fergie if anyone steps out of line they are out. Not his biggest fan but yeah id take him in our current mob

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, somebum said:

Id take Pearson back over this cnut any day. He might not be a tactical genius but he can build a strong squad .. like fergie if anyone steps out of line they are out. Not his biggest fan but yeah id take him in our current mob

Pearson was a mix of good and bad.  But he is not the only option - we can't keep saying shall we bin the current manager and hive Nigel back.  Pearson was tactically problematic in the PL.  I don't think he would take us to the top half (despite the strengths you rightly point out... and the support structure he put in).  There are other alternatives (to just NP - though I accept he might be an upgrade on shakey)  - I hope the owners are looking at them right now.

[Guest]

18 hours ago, weller54 said:

Don't think it's too much to ask (or of great expectation) to see your team put a few passes together and play with a little flair... This season our style (or total lack of it) has been thoroughly depressing! 

 

but no style is the new style.

[Lambert09]

Evolution is always needed in football and we simply dont seem willing to adjust with how the game has changed. Staying loyal to the way we played in the title winning season has been our downfall and we need to find a new approach because everyone seems to see its not working, yet we are reluctant to change. 

 

I personally lost a lot of faith in Shakey when he said in his interview that a change of shape was up to the players..... the players are not supposed to be the brains of the tea. Consult them sure, but the decision has to be the managers! Now I back him and i'm desperate for him to succeed but he has to find his own identity or he will never be a great manager. There is only so long you can piggy back on others work