The dieting thread

[Captain...]

2 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I find it bemusing that people feel the need to follow all these complicated diets - most of it is just pseudo science.

 

Losing weight is just primary school arithmetic - burn more calories than you consume, you lose weight. Simple.

 

That is easier said than done,  do you actually know how many calories you consume or how many calories you burn? You can make an educated guess, but everybody metabolises and burns/deposits fat at different rates. What I have enjoyed about the one I described above is whilst it is just healthy eating and doing exercise, it gives you a framework and structure to help you. It doesn't obsess over calories and weight, it gives you a guideline to fit to your body and needs and helps steer you in the right direction, without trying to control everything you eat.

[somebum]

Cut out all sugar from your diet and remember its found in most things. Thats the most important rule to follow when trying to lose weight. 

 

Exercise hard and eat less. Push yourself

[Turbogre]

Treadmill you fat ****s 

[Unabomber]

Wear a fit bit that tells me exactly how

many calories I burn each day. Eat less calories than that and lose weight. Like sol I also use intermittent fasting as I have a big appetite. Doing that allows you to have a big dinner, feel full and still lose weight. I lost 8 stone a few years ago, I have kept it off but I still cut fat now and again. 

 

Started a cut today, going to lose 18 pounds. Will just eat 2000kcals and workout 4 times a week. Will be eating high protein and intermittent fasting. 1pm - 9pm.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Apologies if already done, but I thought I’d start a thread related to getting slimmer (and fitter).

What is your favourite method to lose weight? What recipes do you follow? How much weight do you want to lose?

I’m a couple of stone overweight at the moment, linked to my diet but also due to medication I’m taking. I’ve started slimming world again today as it worked brilliantly for me before.

Does anyone want to share some ideas and stories?

Do you need knitting tips too?

[fuchsntf]

10 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Apologies if alreadkmy doerne, but I thought I’d starut a th t grread related to getting slimmer (and fitter).

What is your favourite method to lose weight? What recipes do you follow? How much weight do you want to lose?

I’m a couple of stone overweight at the moment, linked to my diet but also due to medication I’m taking. I’ve started slimming world again today as it worked brilliantly for me before.

Does anyone want to share some ideas and stories?

Its being prepared to tell yourself, where/whst  are you lazy, give-up Moments...

Fitness gymn, might just not be your thing..sign up, then not have The discipline for the needed regularity.waste of Money.

Ditto for joining diet-groups.

If you like or believe one of these various fitness-diets group routines work and have been successfull ..then ok...BUT...

 

try the obvious steps first.  

Cut out late eating habits.

Drink water, and get to like it... 

Just simply cut down..eat cake, eat what you enjoy, Just cut down on the portions.

I am a T-rex, I love meat, but I have 3-4 days without meat, now since the Last  2 years.

I use smaller plates, I like gravy/jus..I cut right down, but not right out...

 

I am a diabetic, with Mobility  problems( last 10-12 years), using crutches.

I was sportingly active, and a world travelling , walker and trekker. Always carried a few pounds extra, but each year, my health physically went down, so weight became a problem.

Once I knew 5-20km walks  were no longer possible...I did 2 things

I bought a bike-home trainer. And invested in a pedalec..electric bike, Now I couldnt even walk into the country, or along promenades, and through forests. The bikes  kept me sane....

 

The last year I lost 15kg, and kept it down... (my cancer, now cured, took hell of alot out of me)

I have been able to drop alot of bad eating  habits, but without pushing it.

Occasionally cheating ...having a slice of ginger cake/Biscuits..oh over xmas mince-pies.

Lovely roast potatoes. But didnt eat 2-3 portions, like days of old.

I have a good English breakfast every 2nd week

Its first admitting your weaknesses, and refinding the simple strengths...

If you can do the hard tour, go for it !!!

But first find out what 'you' find acceptable, how many pounds do 'you' know you can lose,

and hold down....

 

Meat..Salty sausages/bacon fatty pork, Poor Hamburgers, can create alot of body/leg water.

That  could be your first step...anything from 2-10lbs of water alone.

Enjoy Barbecues and buffets, but be selective on quantity, smaller but Tasty portions.

Delibrately cut down also on the sauce, occasionally go a Le natural, also with less salt, and cooking fat/oils..Alot of fresh Food has its own salt and oils. Fresh herbs and pure spices, can

add balance, but natural taste is still a great tastebud teaser (too many TV chefs go awry)

 

So delibrately cross and interchange....for yourself..Refind and still challenge your  Tastebuds.

You might save yourself alot of exursion and target frustration, if you again start to find about food.  Forget about proving what a great athlete and fitness fanatic you   are, enjoy what you

can phyically achieve..Running  is not the must, a mix of good controlled and the occasionial strenuous Walk, is has good. If you can walk the steps take 'em, not the lift.

If your still at work, or a busy retired soul...where Can you leave the car and jump on a bike,

Errm  or walk...Even in the rain,  jumping in the puddles is still great fun.

 

The above is already anything from 10-20kg, without looking at a fitness-center....

I had to get ill to realise it..!!  

 

 

[Countryfox]

11 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Apologies if already done, but I thought I’d start a thread related to getting slimmer (and fitter).

What is your favourite method to lose weight? What recipes do you follow? How much weight do you want to lose?

I’m a couple of stone overweight at the moment, linked to my diet but also due to medication I’m taking. I’ve started slimming world again today as it worked brilliantly for me before.

Does anyone want to share some ideas and stories?

 

You know what I do Col cus we have already talked about it ...   but I read just the other day something that chunky chef Ramsey suggested for when you eat out ...   decide what you want before you go by checking the menu online and choosing what you want when you are not hungry ...   when you get there don’t look at the menu and stick to your decision.   Also, don’t eat the bread and if they bring some out send it back. And, just have a couple of glasses of wine or one large one and make it last.  Good advice !

 

So, with that in mind, we went out tonight for out 25th wedding anniversary (load of bolox but got us a nice railside seat overlooking the sea) and I had 2 beers and half a bottle of wine ...   ate all the bread (Mrs CF had none)) ...  scallops to start, a rack of lamb and white chocolate cheesecake and ice cream for pud ...   now I’m beached on top of the bed and feel very guilty ...        bloody nice meal though ! ...   

[Merging Cultures]

I did Keto last year and lost a lot... but then stopped because I was happy (ish) with the weight I was, and gained it all back. I think the key is to stick at it. And given that it is about eating meat and cheese, it is pretty easy to do. So, that's what I am back on. The wife thinks I'll die of high cholesterol, but I think she has been reading the wrong info. www.reddit.com/r/keto is a good resource.

 

I need to cut out the alcohol. I was very strict when I started keto, then I added it back in as I included it in my carbs. But I think that lead to my weightloss slowing. Anyway, it's something I just need to cut out.

 

The other thing about keto is that it is essentially a CICO (calories in, calories out) way of eating. Which is basically the only way to lose weight anyway. When I am focused, I use MyFitnessPal for tracking what I am eating - it's helpful and ensures that you don't go over the calorie limit you set.

 

Good luck with the weightloss! We can do this!!!

[Captain...]

One thing with diets, especially low carb diets is that a lot of "weightloss" is just water weight from the carbs, can't find the exact quote, but that initial half a stone - 10lbs that just disappears in the first weeks of dieting and exercise is not fat loss, and you just pile that back on immediately. It also affects your mood and dedication to your diet. The initial weightloss makes you feel great, but then you plateau and people often give up at that point.

 

You have to find something that resonates with you, and what I've read on the Joe Wicks plan does. Don't measure fat loss with scales, measure it with a tape measure and by how you look and feel. Don't count calories, just eat healthy meals and healthy snacks and plan prepare and cook it all yourself. Set yourself goals, but not based on calories or weight. The goal is to do 5 short intense workouts a week. You can still eat out and get drunk, because it is about a sustainable lifestyle change not a quick fix to a weight problem.

 

The other thing I have noticed is I've been a lot more productive and focussed at work, and home and have more energy to do housework and other things. I'm also sleeping better. It may not be for everyone, but for me it has worked, so far, ask me again in a month 

 

6 hours ago, Countryfox said:

You know what I do Col cus we have already talked about it ...   but I read just the other day something that chunky chef Ramsey suggested for when you eat out ...   decide what you want before you go by checking the menu online and choosing what you want when you are not hungry ...   when you get there don’t look at the menu and stick to your decision.

That is a good tip, unfortunately you can't check the menu in advance everywhere you go, but I like the idea.

[Costock_Fox]

Set yourself a challenge.

 

 

Find the real reason you want to do it eg not just to lose weight, to get yourself healthier so you can see more of your family as you get older.

 

Portion control with food.

 

Exercise 5 days a week, probably join a gym that you like going to. DL Narborough is the nicest in Leicestershire but expensive. The cost motivated me more to go 5/6 times a week.

 

Take regular pictures of yourself to monitor progress.

 

Find someone else to drag you along and compare progress.

 

Dont be afraid to look daft. I’ve fallen off machines in the gym, rowed across the gym floor on a static rower (**** knows) and generally looked like a possessed maniac but I couldn’t give a shit.

 

Lifting weights will burn more fat than cardio. Deadlifts, squats, leg press will continue to burn fat throughout the day.

 

All of these things have gradually helped me get from 14 stone to below 11 over a few years (I’m a short arse).

Edited 9 January 2018 by Costock_Fox

[lcfcsnow]

16 hours ago, Charl91 said:

I don't have lunch on week days (or breakfast, most of the time). Protein shake when I finish work, head straight to the gym, then home for a huge meal. Rinse and repeat.

I was on these protein shakes a few years ago but started to get concerned about what was in them, abundance of sweeteners for instance which just made them too sweet anyway. Is there a protein shake free of any bad stuff?

[Durnerz]

I use protein shakes for muscle repair as I get bad aches and pains after exercise.

Highly recommend them, along with the Joe Wicks recipes and books plus his fitness regime. Really good results.

[Buce]

14 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

I was on these protein shakes a few years ago but started to get concerned about what was in them, abundance of sweeteners for instance which just made them too sweet anyway. Is there a protein shake free of any bad stuff?

 

There are loads.

 

Look for unflavoured 100% whey protein (it's the flavourings that contain the shit) and look to buy in bulk rather than 1kg at a time, to keep the cost down.

Edited 9 January 2018 by Buce

[lcfcsnow]

32 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

There are loads.

 

Look for unflavoured 100% whey protein (it's the flavourings that contain the shit) and look to buy in bulk rather than 1kg at a time, to keep the cost down.

Is drinking the unflavoured whey with milk going to be a bad taste or is there a better way to do it?

[Buce]

1 minute ago, lcfcsnow said:

Is drinking the unflavoured whey with milk going to be a bad taste or is there a better way to do it?

 

Tbh, I've never understood the need for flavouring at all. The taste isn't at all unpleasant - it reminds me of the taste of baby milk, if you've ever tasted that. Anyway, if flavour is an issue you could always add your own - cocoa powder (not drinking chocolate) is a good option as it has the added benefit of being a good source of iron and is rich in anti-oxidants.

 

You can cook with it too - I've added it to all sorts, flapjacks, biscuits, porridge, scrambled eggs...

[Countryfox]

17 hours ago, FIF said:

Do you need knitting tips too?

 

Come on then prof ....     where are you on the blubberometer ? ....

[RonnieTodger]

18 hours ago, Captain... said:

Been trying the Joe Wicks fat loss plan with the missus. I quite like it so far, it's not about calorie counting, nor obsessing over weight, but a lifestyle change. To be honest he is pretty annoying in a Jamie Oliver kinda way, but he does talk sense (except when he calls broccoli midget trees).

 

The basic premise is a  high intensity workout 5 days out of 7, on those days you have one high carb meal and 2 low carb meals, 2 rest days where you have  3 low carb meals. All meals are high in protein and most of them have tasted good. Nothing is banned except processed foods, but the emphasis really is on cooking from scratch with healthy fresh ingredients. So curries, stews, burgers, bacon, cheese, sausages etc all included in his recipes. The other thing is the portion sizes are massive (we've cut them back, because it is just too much). You don't go hungry but you do eat a lot good food and do intense exercise.

 

The main difference I've found is that we have made time to plan our weekly meals, buy in the fresh ingredients and cook from home more, having the food in and the meal plan on the fridge means there is no, "I can't be arsed tonight, let's just have a pizza" or heat up some processed crap and veg on the sofa. That goes alongside basic principles that you know but probably ignore, keep hydrated, get a good nights sleep and don't eat shit.

 

It's not a fad diet it is lifestyle change, and once we have reached our target weight we may not keep up the exercise 5 times a week, but we'll definitely keep up the meal planning and cooking.

 that got on my tits as well, but to be fair to him those tits are gone now. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Come on then prof ....     where are you on the blubberometer ? ....

A lean, mean, fighting machine. 

 

 

 

Well not quite but not too bad, I may be a language prof but I specialised in Sports teaching at uni and until recently I played many sports and coached basketball. 

 

Dieting  is simply about not being a pig. You can eat pretty much whatever you want just not too much of it. Remember it takes a 5 mile un to burn off the calories that eating a small cadbury's sweet bar will give you. Ask youself what's easier? not eating that snickers or running 5 miles? Or should I say not eating those marathons or running one? 

[Merging Cultures]

2 hours ago, Captain... said:

One thing with diets, especially low carb diets is that a lot of "weightloss" is just water weight from the carbs, can't find the exact quote, but that initial half a stone - 10lbs that just disappears in the first weeks of dieting and exercise is not fat loss, and you just pile that back on immediately. It also affects your mood and dedication to your diet. The initial weightloss makes you feel great, but then you plateau and people often give up at that point.

This is correct. My understanding is that as your body becomes 'fat adjusted' it will burn the fat. When you consume carbs, it prefers to burn them first, causes a spike in insulin, which leads to your body inhibiting the burning of fat. So definitely worthwhile to continue. I did it for 3 months, and was past the initial water weight loss. I got bored more than anything, and I did experience a plateau, which happened to coincide with me adding alcohol back in to my diet. I think I was underestimating the carbs in the drinks.

[Captain...]

3 minutes ago, FIF said:

A lean, mean, fighting machine. 

 

 

 

Well not quite but not too bad, I may be a language prof but I specialised in Sports teaching at uni and until recently I played many sports and coached basketball. 

 

Dieting  is simply about not being a pig. You can eat pretty much whatever you want just not too much of it. Remember it takes a 5 mile un to burn off the calories that eating a small cadbury's sweet bar will give you. Ask youself what's easier? not eating that snickers or running 5 miles? Or should I say not eating those marathons or running one? 

That is an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it, my diet has been erratic over the last few years and my snacking has been on the wrong side of healthy  mainly due to my job. When you are in the middle of a busy period at work and your energy is low, your body is crashing and you just need something to get you through the next few hours and there are donuts on the table. It gets to the point of eat an unhealthy snack or being completely useless at work. Office based jobs, long sedentary commutes and time poor culture leads to these bad habits, dehydration, quick fix snacking, ready meals and fast food.

 

Just things like having breakfast and having healthy snacks with me has made a difference, but that is all down to planning and preparing your meals and your snacks, and that is time consuming, but so far has been worth it.

[Buce]

8 minutes ago, FIF said:

A lean, mean, fighting machine. 

 

 

 

Well not quite but not too bad, I may be a language prof but I specialised in Sports teaching at uni and until recently I played many sports and coached basketball. 

 

Dieting  is simply about not being a pig. You can eat pretty much whatever you want just not too much of it. Remember it takes a 5 mile un to burn off the calories that eating a small cadbury's sweet bar will give you. Ask youself what's easier? not eating that snickers or running 5 miles? Or should I say not eating those marathons or running one? 

 

Ask yourself what's better, though - running five miles in order to burn off unwanted calories, or just sitting on your arse?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Captain... said:

That is an incredibly simplistic way of looking at it, my diet has been erratic over the last few years and my snacking has been on the wrong side of healthy  mainly due to my job. When you are in the middle of a busy period at work and your energy is low, your body is crashing and you just need something to get you through the next few hours and there are donuts on the table. It gets to the point of eat an unhealthy snack or being completely useless at work. Office based jobs, long sedentary commutes and time poor culture leads to these bad habits, dehydration, quick fix snacking, ready meals and fast food.

 

Just things like having breakfast and having healthy snacks with me has made a difference, but that is all down to planning and preparing your meals and your snacks, and that is time consuming, but so far has been worth it.

Is planning and preparing something to eat that can replace the donut so hard?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Ask yourself what's better, though - running five miles in order to burn off unwanted calories, or just sitting on your arse?

How can you type on FT whilst you're running 5 miles?

[leicesterlad1989]

Like others have said already, don't see it as a diet, make it a lifestyle change. Diets are fads and they are hardly ever sustainable.

 

Make sure you set yourself realistic targets. The number of people I know who set silly targets such as; no carbs, no alcohol, train twice a day etc and then after a couple of days they fall off the wagon and give up. Start off slowly and make simple changes. Cut certain foods out and add a bit of exercise. Once you begin to notice a change, this will motivate you further and then I'd look at doing Joe Wicks, as others have suggested. Not done it personally as I have different training goals but a work colleague has lost a shed load of weight and looks in good shape.

 

My misses is doing slimming world currently, so I've had some of the meals. Pretty decent. I don't quite understand the diet though as it appears you don't have a limit on carbs. You are also allowed 10 syns a day. A microwaveable bag of rice is 1.5 syns, so I am told. Surely you can't have 6.5 bags of rice a day and still lose weight?!

[Captain...]

11 minutes ago, FIF said:

Is planning and preparing something to eat that can replace the donut so hard?

Yes, because you don't know when you are going to crash and where you are going to be. It is not just planning for that one donut, it is making sure you have the right food in the fridge and are disciplined enough to get up and make and eat breakfast, cook/prepare something the night before to take into work for lunch, along with snacks. Managing those cravings by having 3 balanced healthy meals a day.

 

It is not always possible when you have an hour long commute and work long stressful hours. Add in after work and weekend commitments and kids to look after then it gets very easy to skip breakfast, buy a meal deal on your lunch and then just heat up a pizza when you get home and veg out in front of the telly.