The dieting thread

[Suzie the Fox]

26 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said:

This is correct. My understanding is that as your body becomes 'fat adjusted' it will burn the fat. When you consume carbs, it prefers to burn them first, causes a spike in insulin, which leads to your body inhibiting the burning of fat. So definitely worthwhile to continue. I did it for 3 months, and was past the initial water weight loss. I got bored more than anything, and I did experience a plateau, which happened to coincide with me adding alcohol back in to my diet. I think I was underestimating the carbs in the drinks.

Correct. Initial weight loss in 1st few weeks is water. 

 

However after this period, you are in keto and producing ketones you are burning fat for fuel. 

[Costock_Fox]

I tried this Ket diet people are talking about but ended up thinking I was a chair, any ideas?

[RoboFox]

3 hours ago, lcfcsnow said:

I was on these protein shakes a few years ago but started to get concerned about what was in them, abundance of sweeteners for instance which just made them too sweet anyway. Is there a protein shake free of any bad stuff?

 

2 hours ago, Buce said:

 

There are loads.

 

Look for unflavoured 100% whey protein (it's the flavourings that contain the shit) and look to buy in bulk rather than 1kg at a time, to keep the cost down.

I was on the protein shakes for quite a long time, they were great for recovery and building, but had to give them up when the lady threatened to throw me out of the house, such was the extent of the smells emanating from my arse. 

 

No idea what they put in them, but it really didn't agree with me.

[Col city fan]

18 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Correct. Initial weight loss in 1st few weeks is water. 

 

However after this period, you are in keto and producing ketones you are burning fat for fuel. 

I tell you one thing when I was on the Atkins. If I didn’t stick to it absolutely, if I swayed from it at all (a Slice of toast every so often or ‘a pudding’), the weight gain from just those indiscretions was huge!

That was one of the reasons I decided to come off it in the end. I found is so restrictive really.

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

A lean, mean, fighting machine. 

 

 

 

Well not quite but not too bad, I may be a language prof but I specialised in Sports teaching at uni and until recently I played many sports and coached basketball. 

 

Dieting  is simply about not being a pig. You can eat pretty much whatever you want just not too much of it. Remember it takes a 5 mile un to burn off the calories that eating a small cadbury's sweet bar will give you. Ask youself what's easier? not eating that snickers or running 5 miles? Or should I say not eating those marathons or running one? 

Surely that depends how fast you run those 5 miles, as to how much you burn off.

[Strokes]

13 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

I tried this Ket diet people are talking about but ended up thinking I was a chair, any ideas?

Me too, I ended up in a right mucking fuddle.

[Costock_Fox]

6 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Me too, I ended up in a right mucking fuddle.

 

Col, what exercise do you like doing? If you hate running then get yourself doing uphill walking.

 

Its an absolute killer and burns fat like crazy.

[CollinsLCFC]

I've decided it's time to lose excess weight. I'm 6ft and weigh 16st.  My target is to lose 2st. 

 

My problem is lazyness. I used to order 2-3 takeaways a week and drank loads of sugary drinks. 

 

Cut that out, target a 300-400 calorie lunch, only drink water and the odd diet coke. Started eating lean meats such as turkey mince, buying reduced sugar/fat products and adding more veg to meals. Aiming to go gym 3-5 times a week and the odd swimming session. 

 

Appreciate if someone could advise if this will be effective and how long I'm looking at should I keep it up. 

 

Motivation is the toughest obstacle. Going around the supermarket staring at all the crap, wishing I could eat it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Captain... said:

Yes, because you don't know when you are going to crash and where you are going to be. It is not just planning for that one donut, it is making sure you have the right food in the fridge and are disciplined enough to get up and make and eat breakfast, cook/prepare something the night before to take into work for lunch, along with snacks. Managing those cravings by having 3 balanced healthy meals a day.

 

It is not always possible when you have an hour long commute and work long stressful hours. Add in after work and weekend commitments and kids to look after then it gets very easy to skip breakfast, buy a meal deal on your lunch and then just heat up a pizza when you get home and veg out in front of the telly.

Okay, perhaps it just depends on the person. I have and have had long commutes, long hours, kids and commitments and I've managed to plan, the plan becomes part of the routine. Like doing your teeth in the morning or remembering to put the car keys in your pocket. At least for me. We're all different.

[Costock_Fox]

19 minutes ago, CollinsLCFC said:

I've decided it's time to lose excess weight. I'm 6ft and weigh 16st.  My target is to lose 2st. 

 

My problem is lazyness. I used to order 2-3 takeaways a week and drank loads of sugary drinks. 

 

Cut that out, target a 300-400 calorie lunch, only drink water and the odd diet coke. Started eating lean meats such as turkey mince, buying reduced sugar/fat products and adding more veg to meals. Aiming to go gym 3-5 times a week and the odd swimming session. 

 

Appreciate if someone could advise if this will be effective and how long I'm looking at should I keep it up. 

 

Motivation is the toughest obstacle. Going around the supermarket staring at all the crap, wishing I could eat it.

That sounds spot on mate. I've said elsewhere that it is mainly about portion control. Eat a decent breakfast, healthy lunch and a small meal for dinner. Snack on fruit and nuts (Not the dairy milk bar) helps as well.

 

Regarding walking around the supermarket, don't go when you are starving and plan all meals/ ingredients well in advance.

 

Allow yourself one day a week where you can eat what you want which will give you something to look forward to and you will be alright.

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Surely that depends how fast you run those 5 miles, as to how much you burn off.

It's not so much speed as movement, weight and existing fitness levels but I get your point as I'm sure you got mine.

[Captain...]

11 minutes ago, FIF said:

Okay, perhaps it just depends on the person. I have and have had long commutes, long hours, kids and commitments and I've managed to plan, the plan becomes part of the routine. Like doing your teeth in the morning or remembering to put the car keys in your pocket. At least for me. We're all different.

Well partly this is what I'm learning from doing it, it isn't that difficult and the time you spend preparing you make back in spades by being prepared. It just needs that motivation to get yourself doing it and a push in the right direction. It isn't difficult to do it, the hard part is just getting to that point where you can figure out where you're going wrong and doing it right for a while so that you will hopefully see the benefits and stick at it until it becomes the routine.

Edited 9 January 2018 by Captain...

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

A lean, mean, fighting machine. 

 

 

 

Well not quite but not too bad, I may be a language prof but I specialised in Sports teaching at uni and until recently I played many sports and coached basketball. 

 

Dieting  is simply about not being a pig. You can eat pretty much whatever you want just not too much of it. Remember it takes a 5 mile un to burn off the calories that eating a small cadbury's sweet bar will give you. Ask youself what's easier? not eating that snickers or running 5 miles? Or should I say not eating those marathons or running one? 

Its hardball, no prisoners taken...

But we overweight wanna be weight loss acheivers, have to look at the base line....

There is no easy way out, its about balanced diet..for 'oneselve' so own research and discipline is a must.

Keeping to really easy fitness levels is your body duties.

 

After years of sport, adventure and work  travels, even times in new easy to do fitness-centers, meditation,Non aggressive and competitive martial arts

I have fluffed it..!!   But hey-ho.

 

Guilty..no, never!!!   Everybody has a story, a blame, an excuse level, for all those different 'blackouts'.

 

Goodwill from others helps , but doesnt push the pounds away. 

 

 

[Lovejoy]

20 minutes ago, CollinsLCFC said:

I've decided it's time to lose excess weight. I'm 6ft and weigh 16st.  My target is to lose 2st. 

 

My problem is lazyness. I used to order 2-3 takeaways a week and drank loads of sugary drinks. 

 

Cut that out, target a 300-400 calorie lunch, only drink water and the odd diet coke. Started eating lean meats such as turkey mince, buying reduced sugar/fat products and adding more veg to meals. Aiming to go gym 3-5 times a week and the odd swimming session. 

 

Appreciate if someone could advise if this will be effective and how long I'm looking at should I keep it up. 

 

Motivation is the toughest obstacle. Going around the supermarket staring at all the crap, wishing I could eat it.

Quite similar to myself, I'm 6"1 and 17 stone with a similar goal. I've always been well built and played Rugby, but over the last few years have packed on the fat as well with similar excuses.

 

Over the past 3 months or so I've got pretty good at hitting the gym 4/5 times a week, mainly doing strength and circuit work. Playing Squash has been a game changer for me over recent months, really good exercise. I'm also looking to get back to 5-a-side, just need to rally the lads at work .

 

Cutting beer and fizzy drinks has by far been the hardest thing for me, above getting to the gym and eating better. If I break, it's not the food, it tends to be an afternoon can of coke or a couple of evening pints. Trying to live off water and black coffee I find crap. Food wise I'm trying to eat a lot more fish in particular and more small meals throughout the day.

 

Regarding the supermarket - online shopping . Lazy and immoral, but goes a long way to removing the temptation. What causes aggro for me is that the missus is very slim and has to eat a totally different diet to me.

[lcfcsnow]

1 hour ago, RoboFox said:

 

I was on the protein shakes for quite a long time, they were great for recovery and building, but had to give them up when the lady threatened to throw me out of the house, such was the extent of the smells emanating from my arse. 

 

No idea what they put in them, but it really didn't agree with me.

Had a similar effect on me, it was a chocolate one I had that was the worst 

[Countryfox]

4 hours ago, FIF said:

It's not so much speed as movement, weight and existing fitness levels but I get your point as I'm sure you got mine.

 

Well ive dragged you into it haven’t I ! ...    

[CollinsLCFC]

5 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

That sounds spot on mate. I've said elsewhere that it is mainly about portion control. Eat a decent breakfast, healthy lunch and a small meal for dinner. Snack on fruit and nuts (Not the dairy milk bar) helps as well.

 

Regarding walking around the supermarket, don't go when you are starving and plan all meals/ ingredients well in advance.

 

Allow yourself one day a week where you can eat what you want which will give you something to look forward to and you will be alright.

Cheers mate. I just hope I can keep at it, at the moment I'm fully motivated. But after a couple of weeks is when it gets difficult. 

 

As you say, planning meals in advance is huge. Countless times in the past, I needed to go supermarket to get a dinner in and either opted for a takeaway or bought crap. 

[woznotwos]

Sod the diet do ''insanity'' and eat normally , I did it twice over and it shredded me

[Costock_Fox]

5 minutes ago, CollinsLCFC said:

Cheers mate. I just hope I can keep at it, at the moment I'm fully motivated. But after a couple of weeks is when it gets difficult. 

 

As you say, planning meals in advance is huge. Countless times in the past, I needed to go supermarket to get a dinner in and either opted for a takeaway or bought crap. 

I had never been hugely into the gym until last year and the reason I got so committed was seeing the results.

 

I try to cook healthy meals in batches like chicken brown rice and veg, grilled chicken with onion and pepper etc. I tend to also get marinades like Franks Red Hot Sauce and fry chicken up in that.

 

I might have mentioned that I really ****ing like chicken  

[Costock_Fox]

7 minutes ago, woznotwos said:

Sod the diet do ''insanity'' and eat normally , I did it twice over and it shredded me

Your version of eating normally could be pretty different to other people.

[Facecloth]

7 hours ago, leicesterlad1989 said:

Like others have said already, don't see it as a diet, make it a lifestyle change. Diets are fads and they are hardly ever sustainable.

 

Make sure you set yourself realistic targets. The number of people I know who set silly targets such as; no carbs, no alcohol, train twice a day etc and then after a couple of days they fall off the wagon and give up. Start off slowly and make simple changes. Cut certain foods out and add a bit of exercise. Once you begin to notice a change, this will motivate you further and then I'd look at doing Joe Wicks, as others have suggested. Not done it personally as I have different training goals but a work colleague has lost a shed load of weight and looks in good shape.

 

My misses is doing slimming world currently, so I've had some of the meals. Pretty decent. I don't quite understand the diet though as it appears you don't have a limit on carbs. You are also allowed 10 syns a day. A microwaveable bag of rice is 1.5 syns, so I am told. Surely you can't have 6.5 bags of rice a day and still lose weight?!

Spot on about the realistic targets and small steps.

 

I had long term overall goal, but my weekly goal was just to drop some weight every week, i didn't set a ridiculous target date. My sister got me a fitbit for Christmas 2016, and I didn't really embrace it for a couple of months and then i started walking on my lunch break every day. I felt fitter i lost some weight, and i wasn't just jumping into hard training, which i done before, struggled and gave up. Then April time I started properly uses the gym membership I'd had for while and went a few times a week and eventually ended up going most mornings. By not rushing and talking gradual steps I think I've not got downhearted and continued to get fitter and thinner as the years gone on. Obviously all this was coupled with a complete change in diet.

 

Along the way I've self taught myself new work outs, how to track what I eat, the carbs, protein and fat I need. Liking the Mens Health page on Facebook is a great help, so much valuable advice on diet and exercise for whatever stage you're at, or whatever your goal.

 

So in all that I've gone from 16 stone (I'm only 5ft6 so the guy saying he's 6ft and 16 stones makes me realise how ****ing huge I was) to 11.5 stone. The exercise I do at the gym I would never have imagined I could have done a year ago, so I'm glad I took my time as if I'd tried early on I'd have given up. I also play 5 aside once a week and was doing before I lost weight, and the difference in how much easier I find it now is remarkable. I was dying after 5 minutes before, now I feel like Ngolo Kante.

 

Oh and everyone should remember it's not just the numbers on the scales you need to watch. Get some scales that measure your body fat percentage and take note if how your clothes feel, even measure your waist line, because you may not have lost actual weight but you could have lost fat.

Edited 9 January 2018 by Facecloth

[Costock_Fox]

21 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Spot on about the realistic targets and small steps.

 

I had long term overall goal, but my weekly goal was just to drop some weight every week, i didn't set a ridiculous target date. My sister got me a fitbit for Christmas 2016, and I didn't really embrace it for a couple of months and then i started walking on my lunch break every day. I felt fitter i lost some weight, and i wasn't just jumping into hard training, which i done before, struggled and gave up. Then April time I started properly uses the gym membership I'd had for while and went a few times a week and eventually ended up going most mornings. By not rushing and talking gradual steps I think I've not got downhearted and continued to get fitter and thinner as the years gone on. Obviously all this was coupled with a complete change in diet.

 

Along the way I've self taught myself new work outs, how to track what I eat, the carbs, protein and fat I need. Liking the Mens Health page on Facebook is a great help, so much valuable advice on diet and exercise for whatever stage you're at, or whatever your goal.

 

So in all that I've gone from 16 stone (I'm only 5ft6 so the guy saying he's 6ft and 16 stones makes me realise how ****ing huge I was) to 11.5 stone. The exercise I do at the gym I would never have imagined I could have done a year ago, so I'm glad I took my time as if I'd tried early on I'd have given up. I also play 5 aside once a week and was doing before I lost weight, and the difference in how much easier I find it now is remarkable. I was dying after 5 minutes before, now I feel like Ngolo Kante.

 

Oh and everyone should remember it's not just the numbers on the scales you need to watch. Get some scales that measure your body fat percentage and take note if how your clothes feel, even measure your waist line, because you may not have lost actual weight but you could have lost fat.

Well done that’s incredible weight loss

and spot on re body fat. 

 

I was at my most committed/obsessed when I was on the Bodytrax machine in my gym every day. I’ve lost my way over the past 6 months and I’m up

to 20% body fat from 14% which is a shame but the sacrifices I had to make to get to that in the long run aren’t sustainable.

[Col city fan]

23 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Spot on about the realistic targets and small steps.

 

I had long term overall goal, but my weekly goal was just to drop some weight every week, i didn't set a ridiculous target date. My sister got me a fitbit for Christmas 2016, and I didn't really embrace it for a couple of months and then i started walking on my lunch break every day. I felt fitter i lost some weight, and i wasn't just jumping into hard training, which i done before, struggled and gave up. Then April time I started properly uses the gym membership I'd had for while and went a few times a week and eventually ended up going most mornings. By not rushing and talking gradual steps I think I've not got downhearted and continued to get fitter and thinner as the years gone on. Obviously all this was coupled with a complete change in diet.

 

Along the way I've self taught myself new work outs, how to track what I eat, the carbs, protein and fat I need. Liking the Mens Health page on Facebook is a great help, so much valuable advice on diet and exercise for whatever stage you're at, or whatever your goal.

 

So in all that I've gone from 16 stone (I'm only 5ft6 so the guy saying he's 6ft and 16 stones makes me realise how ****ing huge I was) to 11.5 stone. The exercise I do at the gym I would never have imagined I could have done a year ago, so I'm glad I took my time as if I'd tried early on I'd have given up. I also play 5 aside once a week and was doing before I lost weight, and the difference in how much easier I find it now is remarkable. I was dying after 5 minutes before, now I feel like Ngolo Kante.

 

Oh and everyone should remember it's not just the numbers on the scales you need to watch. Get some scales that measure your body fat percentage and take note if how your clothes feel, even measure your waist line, because you may not have lost actual weight but you could have lost fat.

Excellent effort mate. I'm 5ft 10 and 15st 9lbs. 

For me, I'd look and feel ill at 11.5 stones. I can't have been that since I was about 6/7  

[Countryfox]

41 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Excellent effort mate. I'm 5ft 10 and 15st 9lbs. 

 

Can see why you started the thread Col ...  

[Webbo]

I'm about 5'10" and a half. On Christmas Eve I weighed myself at just under 14 stone. I packed in my 5:2 diet until this Monday. I weighed my self Sunday and I weighed 14 stone 9.