Grow up and get behind Riyad, or: stop listening to the press and wait and see how he reacts on the pitch

[the fox]

3 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Fair post that Kitch.

 

My theory is that people abandon all reason because when he's on his game, he's irreplaceable. I agree he's a hero and an idol to many and the reason for that is he's a match winner and a game changer the likes of which we haven't seen for years.

 

If he was any other player he'd be getting dogs abuse, but he's not. He's Mahrez and people are blinded by his brilliance. For every mardy, lazy game he has he'll have another which involves a moment of brilliance, an assist or a goal. I don't think there's any denying we're a worse team without him.

 

We should all be fans of LCFC first but Mahrez is getting special treatment because he's a special talent and a 'one off'. I hope he sorts his head out but I fear he's burnt his bridges good and proper now. 

izzy, riyad is getting the dogs abuse in this thread alone. (and he deserve most of it)

 

people aren't just mad at riyad, they are mad at man city and other football fans. it's not the not showing up to training that hurts, it's the "he's too good for you" that burns people 

[Guest Col city fan]

10 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Wrong. Ulloa did get abuse, but nobody was being an idiot and defending him, so there were no arguments.

 

You notice the backlash Mahrez gets because people get fed up of others defending the indefensible, just because he's a talented player.

 

 

Stop being honest with your posts Kitch. You're meant to bull-shit, duck and dive and brown-nose.

Youre doing this all wrong!

 

[MahrezFan]

Hello LCFC fans,

 

Another Algerian here :). I started reading through this thread and find it very interesting and wanted to give my two cents of what I think is happening. The truth has to be told that LCFC will not sell Mahrez till January 2020 when he will only have 6 months left in his contract. You are probably thinking his value will be all gone by that time, yes it is true but the overall finances of the club will be better off that way. Let me try to explain.

 

The current valuation of LCFC is about £350 M mostly coming from broadcasting, brand and merchandise. LCFC has also healthy finances since they are also making about £20 M in profit every year and don’t have any urgent need for money.

 

Now if God forbid LCFC is relegated their value will drop to £70 M at best which is usually the value of the top teams in championship. Besides the drop in valuation they might not be able to pay their best players because of lack of revenue and might need to offload them. Fortunately or unfortunately the survival of LCFC in the premier league depends a lot on Mahrez so they have no choice but to keep him to protect the business. Even if they sell at £95 M they won’t be able to replace him as no player of this price tag or caliber will come to LCFC.

 

The £95 M valuation for Mahrez is unrealistic and just a poor excuse because they told him if there is fair offer we will let you go, just to give enough hope for him to go on. There are only a handful of teams like Barca or Real who can spend this much money on a single player to be a central figure in the team, but as much as I like Mahrez he cannot be a starter in any of those teams, so none of those is going to pay £95 M on a player to put him on a bench. The offer from Man City is probably the best the team will ever get. People keep comparing with the fee paid for Courtinho or van Dijk but those are outliers triggered by the Neymar PSG deal that trickled down. It’s more reasonable to compare him with Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M),.. And you can argue that any of those players might be better than Mahrez.

 

Now what can Mahrez do to force a move before January 2020? Unfortunately for him he is squared and not much. If he refuses to play it will be very risky and suicidal from his part as this will tarnish what is left from his reputation, if he plays well the club will be more than happy to increase his “fair valuation” to fend off any eventual offers. He probably understands by now how the game works and is trying to figure out his next move. I read here people saying he is naïve and should not have signed the contract in the summer of 2016, I think he did not have a choice at that time, the club pressured him to sign without a release clause and he could not start a conflict with the club at that time. Mahrez is in a unique situation where it’s too risky for the club to let him go.

 

At the end it’s just business and each party will use whatever means they have to protect their interests including throwing a tantrum  . .

 

Cheers,

 

[the fox]

didn't i see this post before?

[Nuge]

Just now, the fox said:

didn't i see this post before?

Yes. It was bollux then, and it’s still bollux now. 

[HighPeakFox]

Not unreasonable by Kitch. Buy let's not get into point scoring between posters, or calling points of view inexcusable, we just don't need divisive crap like that. 

[the fox]

7 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

he doesn't give a shit about anything and just wants out. There is just no way we'll keep him. It's over.

let's be real here, the more he plays the higher the price tag will be. riyad thinks what's done is done and the last thing he wants to do is drive the asking price up.

i guarantee you that he would show up for training the next day if get's a good release clause!

Edited 2 February 2018 by the fox

[Bluetintedspecs]

****ing depression my arse, round these parts it's called a mardy!

[ARM1968]

Riyad holding the club to ransom? Riyad going to war?  Against our owners?  Good luck with that son. I mean you fired your last agent for being a cock and your new one turns out to be just as bigger cvnt. Ha ha haaaaaaa!!

[Countryfox]

Where exactly does this £95m come from ?? ...    In the Mercury today it clearly states they offered us £50m plus a player we didn't actually want and so we said no its got to be £80m cash and forget the player....    a fair price for our little want away star ..  they said no.   

 

I honestly don't know what he is moaning about and I don't know what some of the people on here are moaning about ....   a fair price ! ...   NO ONE IS STOPPING HIM GOING !!

 

And if you are reading this blondie ...   my personal message is ... FVCK OFF ...   and thanks for messing up our season when things were looking good.

[ZeGuy]

10 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

Hello LCFC fans,

 

Another Algerian here :). I started reading through this thread and find it very interesting and wanted to give my two cents of what I think is happening. The truth has to be told that LCFC will not sell Mahrez till January 2020 when he will only have 6 months left in his contract. You are probably thinking his value will be all gone by that time, yes it is true but the overall finances of the club will be better off that way. Let me try to explain.

 

The current valuation of LCFC is about £350 M mostly coming from broadcasting, brand and merchandise. LCFC has also healthy finances since they are also making about £20 M in profit every year and don’t have any urgent need for money.

 

Now if God forbid LCFC is relegated their value will drop to £70 M at best which is usually the value of the top teams in championship. Besides the drop in valuation they might not be able to pay their best players because of lack of revenue and might need to offload them. Fortunately or unfortunately the survival of LCFC in the premier league depends a lot on Mahrez so they have no choice but to keep him to protect the business. Even if they sell at £95 M they won’t be able to replace him as no player of this price tag or caliber will come to LCFC.

 

The £95 M valuation for Mahrez is unrealistic and just a poor excuse because they told him if there is fair offer we will let you go, just to give enough hope for him to go on. There are only a handful of teams like Barca or Real who can spend this much money on a single player to be a central figure in the team, but as much as I like Mahrez he cannot be a starter in any of those teams, so none of those is going to pay £95 M on a player to put him on a bench. The offer from Man City is probably the best the team will ever get. People keep comparing with the fee paid for Courtinho or van Dijk but those are outliers triggered by the Neymar PSG deal that trickled down. It’s more reasonable to compare him with Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M),.. And you can argue that any of those players might be better than Mahrez.

 

Now what can Mahrez do to force a move before January 2020? Unfortunately for him he is squared and not much. If he refuses to play it will be very risky and suicidal from his part as this will tarnish what is left from his reputation, if he plays well the club will be more than happy to increase his “fair valuation” to fend off any eventual offers. He probably understands by now how the game works and is trying to figure out his next move. I read here people saying he is naïve and should not have signed the contract in the summer of 2016, I think he did not have a choice at that time, the club pressured him to sign without a release clause and he could not start a conflict with the club at that time. Mahrez is in a unique situation where it’s too risky for the club to let him go.

 

At the end it’s just business and each party will use whatever means they have to protect their interests including throwing a tantrum  . .

 

Cheers,

 

Stop to tell bullshit.

[ZeGuy]

7 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Not unreasonable by Kitch. Buy let's not get into point scoring between posters, or calling points of view inexcusable, we just don't need divisive crap like that. 

What? Why? Why bother posting on FT then?

[Guest Col city fan]

With Puel now reportedly confirming that Mahrez is out of City v Swansea, what exactly are we all meant to be being grown up about?

@Finnegan

[the fox]

it's 2045 and leicester are playing against QPR in the pl

, after a bad loss, one of the fans scream from a distance, his tone filled with bitterness, "mahrez disrupted the team".

[ARTY_FOX]

19 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

He's gone at the end of the season. Dressing room must be pissed off, he doesn't give a shit about anything and just wants out. There is just no way we'll keep him. It's over.

I know bud was just joking with @the fox

 

But that's the famous German sense of humour we all love! 

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Its not just about players value, he obviously means more to the club than the £50m+ that Man City tried to tempt us with.

 

We don't want to sell, in particular the owners who why would they sell something/body that makes them travelling half the way around the world to watch and enjoy unless they had too?

 

By the current rules the club effectively own him and players are aware of that when happily signing for £20m 4 year wage

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Can you imagine if we sacked him. Given our owners I wouldn't put it past them! 

 

Absolute scenes when he signs on a free for Man City ... although it wont be allowed until the summer 

 

Also... @Finnegan I know you're a decent bloke, you must be ready to admit now that the rumours appear to be true.

 

It's not really about admitting anything. I've said all along that if his form goes down the toilet or he refuses to play for us then I'll be with you all in wanting to get the torches and pitchforks out. 

 

I like Riyad, yes, but I'm not defending him on any personal level or because I believe he can't possibly do any wrong. 

 

What I've said repeatedly in the thread, however, is that until we see he DOES go on strike or does stop trying for us then I'm not really willing to put the boot in. He's one of our players and one of our better players and if we want the club to move forward for the rest of the season, and we still have half of it left, we should be getting behind him and cheering him on with the rest of them. 

 

That's a point Puel himself as iterated, along with saying that whatever happened, it'll be dealt with internally with the club. That's about all we've had, no? Apologies if I've missed something official over the last couple of days but I'm not aware that either Puel or Vichai have said any more on the issue since? 

 

 

[z-layrex]

IF he has refused to play, he has insulted the fans and his teammates. Don't ever want to see him in a Leicester shirt again.

Edited 2 February 2018 by z-layrex

[Finnegan]

9 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

With Puel now reportedly confirming that Mahrez is out of City v Swansea, what exactly are we all meant to be being grown up about?

@Finnegan

 

In your case, "Col", it's pretty much a lost cause. I don't think you've been grown up about anything for as long as you've been on foxestalk to be fair, pal. 

 

Regards what Puel has and hasn't said, as far as I'm aware he stated that the club made the decision to leave Mahrez out, not that Mahrez has refused. 

 

It seems Riyad has been given a brief leave of absence to get his head sorted following the window. Literally no voice in the club is stating what so ever that he's refusing to play, right? I'm genuinely asking, if I've missed something fair enough. 

 

But the BBC right now are giving a classic example of exactly what I'm complaining about. 

 

Headline: MAHREZ MISSES TRAINING FOR FOURTH DAY IN A ROW. 

 

Smallprint: it's not actually clear if he's awol or if the club just gave him some time off. 

 

Quote, even further down: Manager: "the club took the decision."

 

Your reaction: WELL THAT CONFIRMS IT RIYAD IS A NOB RAH RAH RAH. 

 

I mean ffs, that's just not what anyone has said. Right? 

Edited 2 February 2018 by Finnegan

[Guest Col city fan]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm your case, "Col", it's pretty much a lost cause. I don't think you've been grown up about anything for as long as you've been on foxestalk to be fair, pal. 

 

Regards what Puel has and hasn't said, as far as I'm aware he stated that the club made the decision to leave Mahrez out, not that Mahrez has refused. 

 

It seems Riyad has been given a brief leave of absence to get his head sorted following the window. Literally no voice in the club is stating what so ever that he's refusing to play, right? I'm genuinely asking, if I've missed something fair enough. 

 

But the BBC right now are giving a classic example of exactly what I'm complaining about. 

 

Headline: MAHREZ MISSES TRAINING FOR FOURTH DAY IN A ROW. 

 

Smallprint: it's not actually clear if he's awol or if the club just gave him some time off. 

 

Quote, even further down: Manager: "the club took the decision."

 

Your reaction: WELL THAT CONFIRMS IT RIYAD IS A NOB RAH RAH RAH. 

 

I mean ffs, that's just not what anyone has said. Right? 

Keep going... the hole digging is funny!

[the fox]

7 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

Insulted the fans and his teammates. Don't ever want to see him in a Leicester shirt again.

don't you get it? this is exactly what he wants! he already fell out of favour with the owners, if the fans and players don't want him here anymore than he will get his move. no fan would be mad at anyone in the club for selling a player that doesn't want to play here anymore

 

he is trying to be as much of a headache as possible so selling him with a cut price would be worth it.

Edited 2 February 2018 by the fox

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Gerbold said:

How long is his contract, how much does City need the money and how stubborn is Mr. Sri?

In order

 

till 2020

 

we don’t really

 

very

 

[Tringfox]

This Mahrez saga getting boring now! I just want us to give Swansea a good hiding tomorrow without him to prove we’re not just a one man team!

[Almo-Fox]

vichai ( after feeling he was wrong and is feeling for mahrez ) call to fix the glitch 

 

v - hi Riyad 

m- hi v

 

v- I m really sorry I missed out on that move I want to fix the glitch I'm agreeing for a release clause so Riyad help me to put a number is it 65 or 80 

 

m- what about 77  easy on the tongue easy to remember znd above VVD 

 

v- ok 77 ok   you good 

m- no boss you good

v- no no you good Riyad  so when are coming to train 

 

m- boss you forget something 

v- what 

m- release clause written on the new contract   no document no return

 

v- my bad    I hold you   you good Riyad   here I send you a copy of the tacit contract

 

m- thank you boss see u soon 

v- omg   I did it I fix   that was so simple  

 

m- you see that was so simple 

   hi Kia  every thing ok

kia : yes boss everything recorded 

 

 

Edited 2 February 2018 by Almo-Fox

[z-layrex]

1 minute ago, Almo-Fox said:

vichai ( after feeling he was wrong and is feeling for mahrez ) call to fix the glitch 

 

v - hi Riyad 

m- hi v

 

v- I m really sorry I missed out on that move I want to fix the glitch I'm agreeing for a release clause so Riyad help me to put a number is it 65 or 80 

 

m- what about 77  easy on the tongue easy to remember znd above VVD 

 

v- ok 77 ok   you good 

m- no boss you good

v- no no you good Riyad  so when are coming to train 

 

m- boss you forget something 

v- what 

m- release clause written on the new contract   no document no return

 

v- my bad    I hold you   you good Riyad   here I send you a copy of the tacit contract

 

m- thank you boss see u soon 

v- omg   I did it I fix   that was so simple  

 

m- you see that was so simple 

 

 

 

Nah