Grow up and get behind Riyad, or: stop listening to the press and wait and see how he reacts on the pitch

[ARTY_FOX]

5 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Yeah Berahino is another prime example, he got his big move didn't he Sylo  Fookin bench at Stoke!

Mahrez will be lucky to be there if he carries on the way he's going 

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

More to the point, don't believe the Daily Star, or any of its filthy ilk. 

I do love this type of comment. Why do people on here make out everything in the sun star and mirror is bollox.

 

If everything they printed was bollox they would they would never get out of court.

[MahrezFan]

6 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Am I right in saying only 2 bids for Mahrez have gone public? Man City and Roma? Do we even think there were more?

 

I think the hype/ his agent's words have gone to his head. I think he expects Barca to come in with a swap deal for Messi and Suarez.

Teams will generally make bids after they inquire about a player. From this last episode it's clear that the club was telling the suitors to take a hike by giving unrealistic valuations. 

Edited 8 February 2018 by MahrezFan

[ARTY_FOX]

6 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

Teams will generally make bids after they inquire about a player. From this last episode it's clear that the club was telling the suitors to take a hike by giving unrealistic valuations. 

Was it an unrealistic valuation though? Id be interested to find out why you think that. Also what you think a fair price would be? Given the business liverpool, baraca and man city themselves did do in the window.

[MahrezFan]

8 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Was it an unrealistic valuation though? Id be interested to find out why you think that. Also what you think a fair price would be? Given the business liverpool, baraca and man city themselves did do in the window.

I think the offer from Man City was fair. Comparing with previous sales Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M), Morata(58 M). I will say 55M plus/minus 5M is a fair offer. There is hidden bias when you are selling to always focus on the highest comparable sale, and vice versa when you are buying to always focus on the lowest comparable sale.

[ARTY_FOX]

3 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

I think the offer from Man City was fair. Comparing with previous sales Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M), Morata(58 M). I will say 55M plus/minus 5M is a fair offer. There is hidden bias when you are selling to always focus on the highest comparable sale, and vice versa when you are buying to always focus on the lowest comparable sale.

Why is 50 fair? 

[urban.spaceman]

The Algerians are still pissed off with us...

 

[Wymsey]

2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

The Algerians are still pissed off with us...

 

[MahrezFan]

5 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Why is 50 fair? 

It's the average of the comps I cited. 

[Bluetintedspecs]

16 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

I think the offer from Man City was fair. Comparing with previous sales Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M), Morata(58 M). I will say 55M plus/minus 5M is a fair offer. There is hidden bias when you are selling to always focus on the highest comparable sale, and vice versa when you are buying to always focus on the lowest comparable sale.

Let's put it another way Riyads stats are better than Coutinhos so how can Riyad be worth less than half of his or less than several defenders including Van Dyck?

As a Riyad fanboy are you saying he's just not that good or presenting an opinion based on your biased views?

Edited 8 February 2018 by Bluetintedspecs

[HighPeakFox]

50 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I do love this type of comment. Why do people on here make out everything in the sun star and mirror is bollox.

 

If everything they printed was bollox they would they would never get out of court.

They word things carefully so they always have a disclaimer, whilst creating gossip, innuendo, and ruining lives in some cases. 

[turtmcfly]

2 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

I think the offer from Man City was fair. Comparing with previous sales Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M), Morata(58 M). I will say 55M plus/minus 5M is a fair offer. There is hidden bias when you are selling to always focus on the highest comparable sale, and vice versa when you are buying to always focus on the lowest comparable sale.

 

Why have you, like so many others, completely ignore the timing of the bid?

 

£55 million might have been fair on the first day of the window. On the final day of it I imagine our owner's thought process was 'we should be able to get that for him in the summer, and we won't have a Riyad shaped hole for the rest of the season'. Although I also imagine the thought process didn't include him doing a Shergar.

 

As for comparables.... Man City provided their own handy benchmark in Laporte, an uncapped central defender they paid 57 million for.

[Kitchandro]

The only offer that's fair is the one we accept.

 

If they offered £100m and we said no, he'd still have to suck it up.

[4everfox]

59 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

Teams will generally make bids after they inquire about a player. From this last episode it's clear that the club was telling the suitors to take a hike by giving unrealistic valuations. 

Unrealistic valuations?

Premier League titles:

Mahrez 1

Coutinho 0

 

PFA Player of the Year:

Mahrez 1

Coutinho 0

 

Ballon d'Or Nominations:

Mahrez 1

Coutinho 1

 

How much did Coutinho cost? 

[Bluetintedspecs]

38 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

The Algerians are still pissed off with us...

 

 

[Alf Bentley]

26 minutes ago, turtmcfly said:

 

Why have you, like so many others, completely ignore the timing of the bid?

 

£55 million might have been fair on the first day of the window. On the final day of it I imagine our owner's thought process was 'we should be able to get that for him in the summer, and we won't have a Riyad shaped hole for the rest of the season'. Although I also imagine the thought process didn't include him doing a Shergar.

 

As for comparables.... Man City provided their own handy benchmark in Laporte, an uncapped central defender they paid 57 million for.

 

Exactly.

 

1) Goal scorers/creators cost more than defenders.

2) Players cost more in January than in summer as the disruption to the selling club is much greater.

3) Players cost more in the last 2 days of the January window, as the disruption is even greater - zero chance of replacing a valuable player.

4) Experience matters. Laporte is uncapped &has ZERO experience of PL football, whereas Mahrez has 3.5 years experience, has been player of the year, title winner - and this season is again among the top players for goals and assists.

 

@MahrezFan and his mates think it fair for Man City to pay less for someone proven to be one of the top creative players in the PL, on the last day of the Jan window, than they did for an unproven defender a few days earlier?!?

 

Not only is MahrezFan not a Leicester City fan, he/she clearly isn't even a Mahrez fan to have such a low opinion of both our club and Mahrez himself!

[ARTY_FOX]

2 hours ago, MahrezFan said:

It's the average of the comps I cited. 

Some of the prices aren't quite right in it. But for example you think lacazette is worth as much as mahrez? You think he's worth less than laporte, walker and VVD? Why is 50 a fair offer? He's worth more to us than that and the going rate for Player of the year winners is about 150 million. So if you wanna go off averages your 'fair' price is about 50 mill short minimum. 

Edited 8 February 2018 by ARTY_FOX

[4everfox]

1 minute ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

Exactly.

 

1) Goal scorers/creators cost more than defenders.

2) Players cost more in January than in summer as the disruption to the selling club is much greater.

3) Players cost more in the last 2 days of the January window, as the disruption is even greater - zero chance of replacing a valuable player.

4) Experience matters. Laporte is uncapped &has ZERO experience of PL football, whereas Mahrez has 3.5 years experience, has been player of the year, title winner - and this season is again among the top players for goals and assists.

 

@MahrezFan and his mates think it fair for Man City to pay less for someone proven to be one of the top creative players in the PL, on the last day of the Jan window, than they did for an unproven defender a few days earlier?!?

 

Not only is MahrezFan not a Leicester City fan, he/she clearly isn't even a Mahrez fan to have such a low opinion of both our club and Mahrez himself!

This is a f@cking supreme post, worded my thoughts exactly. 

[Chrysalis]

On 2/7/2018 at 16:39, norwichfox said:

Gordon Taylor seems to be advocating going on strike, that'll be great for the overall good of Football....the man's a tw@ and I hope he's not allowed to arbitrate in this instance. The only good thing he said was that he's been in touch with the club offering to help and they've not got back to him....I hope we never do.

I have seen simon talk a few times on shows etc. and he mostly comes across as sensible, a ex football club owner who is prepared to talk about the problems in the game.

 

This 2 minute snippit was brilliant and yes he is bang on right, mahrez is an employee who is under contract, as long as that contract exists everything else should not be relevant, he shouldnt even be considering the man city bid unless the club gives him permission to do so.

[Chrysalis]

On 2/7/2018 at 17:43, somebum said:

Lots of idealists here. Would you be happy to see your employer blocking you from moving to a better job with more money? Nobody owes anybody anything in this life

Depends really.

 

In Mahrez case he has a contract which both him and the club have to honour, mahrez could become paralysed tomorrow, and the club would still be liable for his contract.

It works the other way round as well in that hehas to honour the contract if the club wishes him to do so.

 

It is very simple, if you dont want to stay at a club for the full length of a contract, then dont sign the contract, no one forced mahrez to.

 

What you happy to and what you are obliged to may be two different things.

[MahrezFan]

2 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

The only offer that's fair is the one we accept.

 

If they offered £100m and we said no, he'd still have to suck it up.

Yes I agree. If I am the owner I won't sell either even for £100m, He is more important to the team than that. But they have to be upfront with him, they owe him that much and not hide behind poor excuses that the bid was late or not fair.

[ARTY_FOX]

3 minutes ago, MahrezFan said:

Yes I agree. If I am the owner I won't sell either even for £100m, He is more important to the team than that. But they have to be upfront with him, they owe him that much and not hide behind poor excuses that the bid was late or not fair.

The bid wasn't fair

[MC Prussian]

Today was the very first day that I noticed the LCFC Facebook moderators actively engage in the discussion, calling for moderation in the debate to today's Thursday Night Live segment.

 

Too little, too late, I'm afraid. You can't rectify the behaviour of Algerian "fans" on there any longer.

Edited 8 February 2018 by MC Prussian

[MahrezFan]

2 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Let's put it another way Riyads stats are better than Coutinhos so how can Riyad be worth less than half of his or less than several defenders including Van Dyck?

As a Riyad fanboy are you saying he's just not that good or presenting an opinion based on your biased views?

 

2 hours ago, turtmcfly said:

 

Why have you, like so many others, completely ignore the timing of the bid?

 

£55 million might have been fair on the first day of the window. On the final day of it I imagine our owner's thought process was 'we should be able to get that for him in the summer, and we won't have a Riyad shaped hole for the rest of the season'. Although I also imagine the thought process didn't include him doing a Shergar.

 

As for comparables.... Man City provided their own handy benchmark in Laporte, an uncapped central defender they paid 57 million for.

He expressed his desire to leave in the summer of 2016 but they still can't find a replacement, because it's not easy to find a player that can impact and win games like he does. The window is only few weeks how can you reasonably find a replacement during that time? Even if it was at the start it was not going to work.

[MahrezFan]

2 hours ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

Exactly.

 

1) Goal scorers/creators cost more than defenders.

2) Players cost more in January than in summer as the disruption to the selling club is much greater.

3) Players cost more in the last 2 days of the January window, as the disruption is even greater - zero chance of replacing a valuable player.

4) Experience matters. Laporte is uncapped &has ZERO experience of PL football, whereas Mahrez has 3.5 years experience, has been player of the year, title winner - and this season is again among the top players for goals and assists.

 

@MahrezFan and his mates think it fair for Man City to pay less for someone proven to be one of the top creative players in the PL, on the last day of the Jan window, than they did for an unproven defender a few days earlier?!?

 

Not only is MahrezFan not a Leicester City fan, he/she clearly isn't even a Mahrez fan to have such a low opinion of both our club and Mahrez himself!

Believe or not I enjoy watching LCFC even when Mahrez does not play. if the 65 M bid was accepted it would have been a record signing for Man City.  Both the player and the team wrote one of the best stories ever in sports and I hope they can work out a deal to preserve the legacy.