Should Riyad Mahrez play for the club again?

[Farrington fox]

So what is the latest on his whereabouts, has he turned up for training or still awol ?

[Countryfox]

2 minutes ago, CloudFox said:

David Squires on … Riyad Mahrez and his Leicester City impasse

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/feb/06/david-squires-on-riyad-mahrez-and-his-leicester-city-impasse

 

Thats bloody brilliant and gave me my one and only laugh during this sorry saga ...    the little pr1ck.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, Ted Maul said:

He's obviously not depressed. Depression is a condition which takes time to take hold of you- Mahrez's 'source' said it about half an hour after we rejected Man City's bid. He's just got the arse and is being a mopey twat. 

Being depressed and clinical depression are two different things entirely.

 

Depressed

1.

(of a person) in a state of unhappiness or despondency.

"she felt lonely and depressed"

synonyms:

sad, saddened, unhappy, gloomy, glum, melancholy, miserable, sorrowful, dejected, disconsolate, downhearted, downcast, cast down, down, crestfallen, woebegone, despondent, dispirited, low, low in spirits, low-spirited, heavy-hearted, morose, dismal, desolate, weighed down, oppressed; More

[Countryfox]

13 minutes ago, the fox said:

Hindsight is a wonderful thing ain't it?

 

The Owners expected him to do what he did last summer and just buckle down and do his job but it seems that this shite of a grenade just exploded in their faces.

There is something about old money vs new money. Both have money of course but the former has reputation on his side. Which pretty much mean, just because you are wealthy doesn't mean you are influential.

Riyad and the owners got into this sh*t slinging competition and no one is getting out clean. In the end of the day, riyad is a desirable asset while the club was struggling to get high level players dispite being champions and having CL football. The owners need good publicity and this radioactive mess!

Never take things personally when you are doing business, this isn't the mafia or the yakuza where everything is about your ego. sometimes you have to dink and dunk to reach the next round.

Never punch above your weight! Go gain some muscle and get back with a better shot to come up at the top. 

Are the owners sure about wanting to play a game of texas hold em to see who's the big stack bully against sheikh mansour? 

 man city can just comeback in less than two years when kelechi is worth 80+ million and just buy him back on the cheap just to send a message?
The owners sent a message and i applaud them for that. They stood by their guns but they have to be prepared for the future. Liverpool overcharged for coutinho and overpaid for van dijk. This is like taking money from your right pocket and putting it on your left. Go and try to buy thorgan hazard. They will just say "95 million For mahrez? give us atleast 60"

 

Oh stop keep spouting bolox foxy ...   there is only one real villain here and we all know who it is ...     my team were doing very well under our new manager, trying hard to finish well up the league and still in the cup ...   that little half arsed tw@t is doing his best to ruin it ...  fvck him !

Edited 6 February 2018 by Countryfox

[Nigel Graham Pearson]

12 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Being depressed and clinical depression are two different things entirely.

 

Depressed

1.

(of a person) in a state of unhappiness or despondency.

"she felt lonely and depressed"

synonyms:

sad, saddened, unhappy, gloomy, glum, melancholy, miserable, sorrowful, dejected, disconsolate, downhearted, downcast, cast down, down, crestfallen, woebegone, despondent, dispirited, low, low in spirits, low-spirited, heavy-hearted, morose, dismal, desolate, weighed down, oppressed; More

I think the two of you probably agree with each other at bottom. It seems very, very likely to me that Mahrez’ friend meant the kind of depression described in Babylon’s definition (whether or not you think that really counts as depression), rather than the kind of ‘black dog’ depression that e.g. a psychiatric would treat. 

Edited 6 February 2018 by Nigel Graham Pearson

[mozartfox]

12 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Being depressed and clinical depression are two different things entirely.

 

Depressed

1.

(of a person) in a state of unhappiness or despondency.

"she felt lonely and depressed"

synonyms:

sad, saddened, unhappy, gloomy, glum, melancholy, miserable, sorrowful, dejected, disconsolate, downhearted, downcast, cast down, down, crestfallen, woebegone, despondent, dispirited, low, low in spirits, low-spirited, heavy-hearted, morose, dismal, desolate, weighed down, oppressed; More

I’m depressed because Riyad and his Bell-end of an Agent are trying to take the p**s out my Club. 

[dynamark]

I'm always depressed but the david squires cartoon dragged me out of it.Loved the bullet proof vest

[Countryfox]

1 minute ago, dynamark said:

I'm always depressed but the david squires cartoon dragged me out of it.Loved the bullet proof vest

What bullet proof vest ? ...   

[the fox]

13 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Oh stop keep spouting bolox foxy ...   there is only one real villain here and we all know who it is ...     my team were doing very well under our new manager, trying hard to finish well up the league and still in the cup

did i say once that the owners were wrong or it wasn't riyad fault? i said for the longst that most of the blame is on riyad! i said he's a clown and unprofessional many times. what do you want, a public lynching?

 

i'm not wrong (unless you can prove me otherwise). i applauded the owners but i questioned their ability to handle this in the long run. 

[Countryfox]

1 minute ago, the fox said:

what do you want, a public lynching?

 

Pass me the rope ..

[the fox]

my points stand!
-charging high fees to sell players will mean overpaying for a replacement!

-in the long run players will try and avoid leicester for many reasons, including the unreasnably high expectations that the fans will demand from the replacement.

--sometimes you have to make compromises, if selling a bit low to make sure that you have a good relationship with a club that can buy back one of your young players on the cheap in the future than so be it. 

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

4 minutes ago, the fox said:

my points stand!
-charging high fees to sell players will mean overpaying for a replacement!

-in the long run players will try and avoid leicester for many reasons, including the unreasnably high expectations that the fans will demand from the replacement.

--sometimes you have to make compromises, if selling a bit low to make sure that you have a good relationship with a club that can buy back one of your young players on the cheap in the future than so be it. 

Charging low fees for players does not mean that other players become more affordable.  Everyone overpays for players.

Edited 6 February 2018 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, the fox said:

sometimes you have to make compromises, if selling a bit low to make sure that you have a good relationship with a club that can buy back one of your young players on the cheap in the future than so be it. 

If Man City see a profit to be had from buying him back, they'll do so whether we sell them a player for a cut price fee or not.

[Manwell Pablo]

On 2/5/2018 at 14:52, Bunyip said:

Human rights Sh*t you think ? utter rubbish. So yeah maybe you are wrong.

 

 

Productive post. What a valuable addition to the forum you are. 

 

I freely admit I don't know a lot about the ins and outs of it, we can't keep enforcing the  200k fine,  due to stipulations that have to be in place between a business and a contracted individual on the regularity and enforcing of fines, one of which being  you can't keep fining the individual for the same offence over and over again, which I believe has something to do with the European Human rights act, is that better?  If this is still rubbish perhaps you could enlighten us all into the ins and outs of how often he can be fined as you are clearly very read up on the subject?

 

Either way it is the bottom line is most certainly not Rubbish, we cannot fine him 200k a week for two years it's not legal even if I am nowhere near the actual reason. 

 

Edited 6 February 2018 by Manwell Pablo

[the fox]

13 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Charging low fees for players does not mean that other players become more affordable.  Everyone overpays for players.

no one is saying "sell on the cheap". we can't just keep talking about how "football is gone" than turn back and do the same. that ain't right.

 

like i said before, i think riyad's value considering everything (his club and nationality, the 2016-2017 season, his age, the transfer request...etc) is 75 million . 

 

damned i you do, damned i you don't. the market is so inflated that if you sell short, you lose and if you sell high you make the market worse.

it's all because of neymar. a guy from inside the barca board said that neymar didn't talk to them so they had to ask a mad sum of money to sell to PSG and PSG just slamed the money on the table and ruined football

Edited 6 February 2018 by the fox

[the fox]

6 minutes ago, Babylon said:

If Man City see a profit to be had from buying him back, they'll do so whether we sell them a player for a cut price fee or not.

altering his contract (if that is possible) to make the riyad transfer go could be seen as an option

[the fox]

5 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Productive post. What a valuable addition to the forum you are. 

 

I freely admit I don't know a lot about the ins and outs of it, we can't keep enforcing the  200k fine indefinitely that is the bottom line.  

 

think there is a limit before the FA and the CAS interfere

[Guest Col city fan]

7 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Think he’s worried about the frosty reception he’s going to get

Well you didn’t expect the other players to be n(ice) to him did you?

[Manwell Pablo]

1 hour ago, the fox said:

Hindsight is a wonderful thing ain't it?

 

The Owners expected him to do what he did last summer and just buckle down and do his job but it seems that this shite of a grenade just exploded in their faces.

There is something about old money vs new money. Both have money of course but the former has reputation on his side. Which pretty much means, just because you are wealthy doesn't mean you are influential.

Riyad and the owners got into this sh*t slinging competition and no one is getting out clean. In the end of the day, riyad is a desirable asset while the club was struggling to get high level players dispite being champions and having CL football. The owners need good publicity not this radioactive mess!

Never take things personally when you are doing business, this isn't the mafia or the yakuza where everything is about your ego. sometimes you have to dink and dunk to reach the next round.

Are the owners sure about wanting to play a game of texas hold'em to see who's the big stack bully against sheikh mansour? 

 

 man city can just comeback in less than two years when kelechi is worth 80+ million and just buy him back on the cheap to send a message?
The owners sent a message and i applaud them for that. They stood by their guns but they have to be prepared for the future. Liverpool overcharged for coutinho and overpaid for van dijk. This is like taking money from your right pocket and putting it on your left. Go and try to buy thorgan hazard. They will just say "95 million For mahrez? give us atleast 60"

 

Nah.

 

I had it on good authority he flipped out the minute a 50 mil bid again which at the time I did tell people to take with a pinch salt but now it's quite clear to see it was accurate. All comes down the summer valuation being met, said for months before the window opened, he's been a professional and played for us but it'll be interesting to see how he reacts if someone comes in at what he see's as reasonable, and here is your answer. The club could of handled this better, I don't think they were expecting a bid. 

 

I'm not entirely what sure message we are sending out here, if he doesn't play again this season and gets sold on the cheap in the summer the only message we are sending out is go on strike for three months and you'll get what you want. If we actually do the unthinkable and waste two years of his life (I am sure we wont as it's a waste of money) then it hardly sends out a very good message to anyone hoping to further their career here, they'll probably want one of those release clauses all of you are so found of.  

 

 

Edited 6 February 2018 by Manwell Pablo

[Chrysalis]

obviously yes

[norwichfox]

1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Nah.

 

I had it on good authority he flipped out the minute a 50 mil bid again which at the time I did tell people to take with a pinch salt but now it's quite clear to see it was accurate. All comes down the summer valuation being met, said for months before the window opened, he's been a professional and played for us but it'll be interesting to see how he reacts if someone comes in at what he see's as reasonable, and here is your answer. The club could of handled this better, I don't think they were expecting a bid. 

 

I'm not entirely what sure message we are sending out here, if we doesn't play again this season and gets sold on the cheap in the summer the only message we are sending out is go on strike for three months and you'll get what you want. If we actually do the unthinkable and waste two years of his life (I am sure we wont as it's a waste of money) then it hardly sends out a very good message to anyone hoping to further their career here, they'll probably want one of those release clauses all of you are so found of.  

 

 

The message it sends to me is you're here until your contract is fulfilled unless our valuation is met. Shouldn't have skimped on solicitors fees when signing a contract without a release clause.

[Manwell Pablo]

Just now, norwichfox said:

The message it sends to me is you're here until your contract is fulfilled unless our valuation is met. Shouldn't have skimped on solicitors fees when signing a contract without a release clause.

 

Think you need to re-read the sentence,"If he stays here till the summer and is sold on the cheap" does not say that, at all. 

 

I know a lot of you will still think we can get 75M besides this episode but I am afraid stuff like this hits his price tag dramatically. 

[norwichfox]

 

4 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Think you need to re-read the sentence,"If he stays here till the summer and is sold on the cheap" does not say that, at all. 

 

I know a lot of you will still think we can get 75M besides this episode but I am afraid stuff like this hits his price tag dramatically. 

 

 

It reads different in your original post "if we doesn't play again this season and gets sold on the cheap" ,  I couldn't make out who the we was

Edited 6 February 2018 by norwichfox

[the fox]

14 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 

Nah.

 

I had it on good authority he flipped out the minute a 50 mil bid again which at the time I did tell people to take with a pinch salt but now it's quite clear to see it was accurate. All comes down the summer valuation being met, said for months before the window opened, he's been a professional and played for us but it'll be interesting to see how he reacts if someone comes in at what he see's as reasonable, and here is your answer. The club could of handled this better, I don't think they were expecting a bid. 

 

I'm not entirely what sure message we are sending out here, if we doesn't play again this season and gets sold on the cheap in the summer the only message we are sending out is go on strike for three months and you'll get what you want. If we actually do the unthinkable and waste two years of his life (I am sure we wont as it's a waste of money) then it hardly sends out a very good message to anyone hoping to further their career here, they'll probably want one of those release clauses all of you are so found of.  

 

 

Thanks Manwell, i have to trust you on this

 

I said it before, riyad thought that 50 million is fair, which is mostly his fault because he didn't agree on the valuation with the owners come winter. But on the other hand, i think he thought if he puts his head down and be a pro he will get his move for the summer's fee .

 

Glad we think the same on the second point you addressed. The club is taking most of the damage here and me saying that is making me out as a fanboy i guess.

 

Kill his career for the next 2 years and the club will look like the evil empire. Blink and let riyad have his way and the club would look weak. And if riyad gets his move and goes on a rant badmouthing the owners, the club would look unprofessional and players will shy away from signing here. in the end, Riyad will come out as the victem here and i don't expect the media to stand by the club's side seeing what happend with claudio. 

Edited 6 February 2018 by the fox

[Wymsey]

Could well be given another week off to get his head together if someone on here said he's been spotted near his family town in France.

Hopefully will return for the Sheffield United game.