fix it , give mahrez a release clause

[Countryfox]

23 minutes ago, Almo-Fox said:

a solution will occur when mahrez two demands are met

 

Do you know how fvcking annoying this is ...    why the fvck should WE agree to any of his fvcking demands ...   

[Bluetintedspecs]

3 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Do you know how fvcking annoying this is ...    why the fvck should WE agree to any of his fvcking demands ...   

Exactly how I feel too mate!

[KingsX]

3 hours ago, Almo-Fox said:

http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-mahrez-issues-two-demands-for-him-to-finally-return-to-leicester-city-20180208

 

the quotes from The Times

mahrez denzbds

1- assuring him move in the summer

2- included a release clause 

 

 

this make sense that  a solution though mediation is nearing 

 

PFA has offered to help for both parties but no answer and yesterday Gordon Taylor reiterated his help and mahrez two demands  just ease Taylor s mediation 

He's in no position to make these demands.  His camp continue to offer approaches which include zero benefit to the other party -- no way to get them to the table, especially when they hold the cards.

 

The only "arbitration" the club should accept is in a court of law.  If he wants to change the interpretation of the terms of his contract, that's where he will have to go.  Arbitrators can be capricious and operate on flimsy precedent.  I cannot imagine a circumstance Mahrez could produce, which it would make it advisable for the club to accept mediation from the players' trade union.  From a business standpoint it's almost laughable.

 

Wondering when Mrs Mahrez will speak up at home about the loss of income and prime earning years.

[sylofox]

39 minutes ago, Almo-Fox said:

you have to come to reality , facts are speaking loudly ( mahrez had lost trust in the owners ) 

 

Puel said , in his CP:

 

- don't know when mahrez will return

- we keep this inside the club 

 

so a solution will occur when mahrez two demands are met ( then mahrez s white smoke will come and sign of it mahrez big smile 

PS : I heard mahrez is in Algeria 

Really I'm not sure what some people don't understand about this. Mahrez can demand whatever he want's. But he don't have a leg to stand on. He signed a contract so ruff.

 

And to be honest the more people like you go on about his demands and what the club should do makes me hope our owners fvck him over. Stick him in the U19's and let him rot for 2.5yrs.

[Almo-Fox]

25 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Do you know how fvcking annoying this is ...    why the fvck should WE agree to any of his fvcking demands ...   

my bad,  I put it like mahrez had the upper hand in this despute. 

 

mahrez may accept a 80-85 m price tag and then continues to produce his high performances and will accept his fate when there is not a suitable bid in 

the summer . 

Edited 8 February 2018 by Almo-Fox

[Beachyboy]

On 06/02/2018 at 13:19, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

But the problem with that is there isnt any evidence that someone will come in and pay 80 million for him. A sensible release clause needs to be at 80 minimum, but that might be too high for someone to pay

 

We will probably sell him for less than that in the summer.  I dont see a release that both parties could agree a figure on

£65 million is the release clause that both parties could agree on, a club will pay even if he doesnt play another game this season, an we haven't lost from what we were offered. If he were to sort his head out an perform for 10 games 3-4 clubs would be interested an that would push the price higher than that.

[Countryfox]

6 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

£65 million is the release clause that both parties could agree on, a club will pay even if he doesnt play another game this season, an we haven't lost from what we were offered. If he were to sort his head out an perform for 10 games 3-4 clubs would be interested an that would push the price higher than that.

 

The trouble with a release clause is that a club can come in at the last minute and we have no time to find a replacement ....   the ONLY way I would agree to one is if we also agree that we find a replacement in the summer and if no one comes in for him he buys himself ! ...   and then he can fvck off and play for who he likes !! ...     

Edited 8 February 2018 by Countryfox

[the fox]

12 minutes ago, sylofox said:

Stick him in the U19's and let him rot for 2.5yrs.

You know you can't do that, right? If he plays less than 10% of the games next season, he can terminate his contract without having to pay compensation at the end of the 2018/2019 season.

[Beachyboy]

1 minute ago, Countryfox said:

 

The trouble with a release clause is that a club can come in at the last minute and we have no time to find a replacement ....   the ONLY way I would agree to one is if we agree that we find a replacement in the summer and if no one comes in for him he buys himself ! ...   and then he can fvck off and play for who he likes !! ...     

For sure a date of when it needs to be activated by must be set, but like someone said in a different post, Mahrez should of accepted a lower wage an told city the rest could be used to agree a fee with, he didnt do everything he could of done to get his move.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

8 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

£65 million is the release clause that both parties could agree on, a club will pay even if he doesnt play another game this season, an we haven't lost from what we were offered. If he were to sort his head out an perform for 10 games 3-4 clubs would be interested an that would push the price higher than that.

I suppose. It does risk us losing him for below market rate if fees go up again in the summer, but at this stage 65 mill could be a solution

 

I dont like how he is attempting to force our hand to make bad business deals like this though. Part of me would prefer us play hardball

[Countryfox]

4 minutes ago, Beachyboy said:

For sure a date of when it needs to be activated by must be set, but like someone said in a different post, Mahrez should of accepted a lower wage an told city the rest could be used to agree a fee with, he didnt do everything he could of done to get his move.

Within the first 2 weeks ...   I'd take that ..

 

(But it aint up to me ..)

[ARTY_FOX]

7 minutes ago, the fox said:

You know you can't do that, right? If he plays less than 10% of the games next season, he can terminate his contract without having to pay compensation at the end of the 2018/2019 season.

That a what cup games are for mate 

 

Regardless of what he wants, he doesn't hold all the cards. The club does. He's under contract so at the end of the day. It's his problem. The Only way to resolve it is to play his best and to stop having strops

[Beachyboy]

5 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

I suppose. It does risk us losing him for below market rate if fees go up again in the summer, but at this stage 65 mill could be a solution

 

I dont like how he is attempting to force our hand to make bad business deals like this though. Part of me would prefer us play hardball

The fee has to be set low enough that he believes someone will pay, if he's happy thats the case, he comes back performs an there is interest, if there are 3-4 clubs interested £65 million is where the bids start, higest bidder. He doesn't believe hes a £100 million player, the crazy transfer market means 10 good performances Leicester finish 7th an win the FA cup he is worth that, the status quo an its £30 million in the summer.

[the fox]

3 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

That a what cup games are for mate 

 

Regardless of what he wants, he doesn't hold all the cards. The club does. He's under contract so at the end of the day. It's his problem. The Only way to resolve it is to play his best and to stop having strops

Yeah, and make the club look like the bad guys? no thank you!

And what if riyad is really struggling mentally, does the club want that kind of PR mess on their hands?

Edited 8 February 2018 by the fox

[joachim1965]

46 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Do you know how fvcking annoying this is ...    why the fvck should WE agree to any of his fvcking demands ...   

We should demand he returns to work, if he refuses just stop paying him until he does.

He is not in a position to demand anything.

[Nigel Graham Pearson]

47 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Do you know how fvcking annoying this is ...    why the fvck should WE agree to any of his fvcking demands ...   

Grow up and get behind him. 

 

Not srs 

[the fox]

1 minute ago, joachim1965 said:

We should demand he returns to work, if he refuses just stop paying him until he does.

He is not in a position to demand anything.

again, you can't do that! if you're not gonna pay him, his case will automatically go to the FA and CAS.

[ARTY_FOX]

2 minutes ago, the fox said:

Yeah, and make the club look like the bad guys? no thank you!

And what if riyad is really struggling mentally, does the club want that kind of PR mess on their hands?

I was only joking mate

 

Although, let's be honest with ourselves. If he's willing to come back after his demands are met it's not depression it's a tantrum. If he comes back and doesn't put his all in then that's what will happen to him. 

 

Nobody thinks West Brom are the bad guys because Berahino did just that.

[the fox]

Just now, ARTY_FOX said:

I was only joking mate

 

Although, let's be honest with ourselves. If he's willing to come back after his demands are met it's not depression it's a tantrum. If he comes back and doesn't put his all in then that's what will happen to him. 

 

Nobody thinks West Brom are the bad guys because Berahino did just that.

they are not at the same level. riyad is a league and poty winner that "allegedly" was promised a move.

riyad still holds some cards. he is our best player after all. the "we can't win without him" snowball is slowly gaining momentum. 

[Ian S]

5 minutes ago, the fox said:

Yeah, and make the club look like the bad guys? no thank you!

And what if riyad is really struggling mentally, does the club want that kind of PR mess on their hands?

Yeh right.He has made himself look a prat with the depressed nonsense and makes those already sceptical of people with depression even more sceptical.

As far as I am concerned he has ruined his reputation and whilst I will always be grateful for what he helped us achieve and he is definitely one of the best I have seen in our colours, this has tarnished his reputation forever.

He has a life that he would not have dared even dream was possible just a few years ago and whilst without him we would not have achieved the impossible, without us it is entirely possible he would still be a relatively average player.

Total disgrace does not do him justice.

[ARTY_FOX]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

they are not at the same level. riyad is a league and poty winner that "allegedly" was promised a move.

riyad still holds some cards. he is our best player after all. the "we can't win without him" snowball is slowly gaining momentum. 

I disagree massively. He was promised, should the right price come in he'll get his move. Should no reasonable bid come in then he has no choice but to honour the contract no? 

 

Because we drew with an on fire and confident Swansea? Despite the fact we made the chances anyway?

Edited 8 February 2018 by ARTY_FOX

[the fox]

Just now, ARTY_FOX said:

I disagree massively. He was promised, should the right price come in he'll get his move. Should no reasonable bid come in then he has no choice but to honour the contract no? 

and that's why i said riyad shares most of the blame. you signed a contract without a release clause so why are you complaining about the price tag?

[4everfox]

31 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

I suppose. It does risk us losing him for below market rate if fees go up again in the summer, but at this stage 65 mill could be a solution

 

I dont like how he is attempting to force our hand to make bad business deals like this though. Part of me would prefer us play hardball

I'd rather see Mahrez rot for two and a half years then sell him for 10 million less than what Van Donut went for. 

[4everfox]

15 minutes ago, the fox said:

they are not at the same level. riyad is a league and poty winner that "allegedly" was promised a move.

riyad still holds some cards. he is our best player after all. the "we can't win without him" snowball is slowly gaining momentum. 

A league winner and POTY winner. Exactly. That's why we are justified when we value him at 95 million. I still think that's too low personally and wouldn't accept a penny less than what Coutinho went for, but that's just me. You say we can't win without him then surely that will make his price go up and make it harder for him to get his move. 

Edited 8 February 2018 by 4everfox

[ARTY_FOX]

12 minutes ago, the fox said:

and that's why i said riyad shares most of the blame. you signed a contract without a release clause so why are you complaining about the price tag?

Exactly. It's 100% his fault. You could probably blame the agent too if you really wanted too but at the same time. He signed it of his own free will. He wasn't conned into it. He wasn't tricked into it. We know there were no false promises. He just needs to man up. Get on with then leave when the dolla comes flying in!