fix it , give mahrez a release clause

[steflcfc]

I can remember when Coutinho moved to Barca, Sky Sports News (ok not the most reliable source) quoted that Coutinho himself, paid the 15-20m difference between what Liverpool wanted and Barca wanted to pay to make the move happen.

 

Wouldn’t the company who do stump up the extra cash for Mahrez , if it happens, act as a 3rd party ownership.....which I thought wasn’t allowed in the Premiership after the West Ham deal with Tevez happened? 

Edited 6 February 2018 by steflcfc

[marbles]

I dont understand why the team should have to fix the mistakes made by Mahrez and his agent.

There were no threads or articles last year stating Mahrez should have his contract restructured for lower pay. 

 

Contracts are signed to protect both the player and the team. 

At the time, it was a very good deal, and agreed upon by both parties.

 

Mahrez has only two options right now.

He can man-up, and return to work

Or he can sit out the rest of his contract 

Either way, the ball is in his court. 

[Chrysalis]

On 2/5/2018 at 07:00, Koke said:

Give him a £69m release clause and move him on in the summer.

Thats way too low.

 

120million I would set it at.

 

I would also tell the player for every week he delays, a million is added to the clause.  Make it clear if we want to we can keep him for 2.5 years rotting in the reserves, we can afford to pay him to not play.  I put the club and morals ahead of a player's desire and finances of a sale.

 

From what I understand tho his leave from training is currently approved by the manager.  The press have misreported.

Edited 6 February 2018 by Chrysalis

[Chrysalis]

21 hours ago, st albans fox said:

so we buy his replacement and no one comes up with the money by the end of the window ..... then what ???   if you buy his replacement first then all the buying clubs will wait until the last minute and offer you less than his release clause, knowing that you cannot hang onto him and have his replacement both in the same team !!!!!!!!

 

its reasonable to put a timescale on this such as aug 1st. then  we then have time to get his replacement in and the club we buy from have time to do the same etc etc

Always better to get the replacement first.

 

1 - If you sell first then clubs selling to you know how much cash you got and will charge accordingly.

2 - Selling first puts you in a panic buy situation as the clock ticks down.

 

Also as long as the club doesnt need the money there is no need for us to sell mahrez, this will come down to what our owners value the most.

 

1 - Honouring the contract.

2 - Refusing to deal with clubs who approached us in  dishonourable way, regardless of size of any offer.

3 - Maximising sale value above all else.

4 - Putting football needs first.

5 - Putting financial needs first.

6 - Making a stand that we wont be bullied into decisions by players or bigger clubs or the press.

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

But the problem with that is there isnt any evidence that someone will come in and pay 80 million for him. A sensible release clause needs to be at 80 minimum, but that might be too high for someone to pay

 

We will probably sell him for less than that in the summer.  I dont see a release that both parties could agree a figure on

Why should the clause be set at a level that allows him to leave in the summer.

 

To me there is only 2 reasonable ways to handle this.

 

1 - no new contract, he honours the one he has, if he starts been a dick, the club can act likewise, potential stand off for 2.5 years.

2 - agree to a clear cut value the club is prepared to let him go for, but the value has to be high enough that the club is reasonably compensated for its loss, a clause will also exist that he has to give 100% in the meantime, there will be no reduction in the value if no clubs meet the valuation in the summer and he stays with the club.

 

So #2 would certainly have no guarantee he would be gone in the summer, it would be set to make sure the club is reasonably compensated not to ensure he gets a summer move.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, steflcfc said:

I can remember when Coutinho moved to Barca, Sky Sports News (ok not the most reliable source) quoted that Coutinho himself, paid the 15-20m difference between what Liverpool wanted and Barca wanted to pay to make the move happen.

I've mentioned a similar point myself, if he was that bothered he could have gone to Man City and played for the 100k a week he's on here, rather than expecting a pay rise (which he absolutely would, because you know, they are Man City and they have oil money).

 

Lets say he turned down the extra cash on the condition City used the difference to pay us a decent fee. 100k instead of £160k = £12.5m over the course of a four year contact. Which would suddenly put their fee into an acceptable bracket.

[Almo-Fox]

the move collapsed and what happens happened and now happily the two parties are forced (  the owners by business- instincts and Mahrez by football- instincts ) to sort out a livable solution , a RC )

all this saga happened because the owners did not respect  the Gauss Law , and Mahrez did grasp it just when Ngolo Kante left Leicester,  so we are living the revenge of Gauss by not respecting his Law

Edited 6 February 2018 by Almo-Fox

[the fox]

4 minutes ago, Almo-Fox said:

the move collapsed and what happens happened and now happily the two parties are forced (  the owners by business- instincts and Mahrez by football- instincts ) to sort out a livable solution , a RC )

all this saga happened because the owners did not respect  the Gauss Law , and Mahrez did grasp it just when Ngolo Kante left Leicester,  so we are living the revenge of Gauss by not respecting his Law

what law is that, the idiots law? he didn't have a release clause and believed a verbal agreement (i that's true) even though the market is a mess right now.

he only has himself to blame. the law doesn't protect the naive.

[Almo-Fox]

2 minutes ago, the fox said:

what law is that, the idiots law? he didn't have a release clause and believed a verbal agreement (i that's true) even though the market is a mess right now.

he only has himself to blame. the law doesn't protect the naive.

search in Google about gauss law , it explain the very reason that push mahrez to want a move . 

 

ps   I though agree he has himself to blame 

[the fox]

1 minute ago, Almo-Fox said:

search in Google about gauss law , it explain the very reason that push mahrez to want a move . 

 

ps   I though agree he has himself to blame 

yeah, i already did, almo

 

and for people too lazy to google:

 

This article is about Gauss's law concerning the electric field. For analogous law concerning different fields, see Gauss's law for magnetism and Gauss's law for gravity. For the Ostrogradsky-Gauss theorem, a mathematical theorem relevant to all of these laws, see Divergence theorem.

In physics, Gauss's law, also known as Gauss's flux theorem, is a law relating the distribution of electric charge to the resulting electric field. The surface under consideration may be a closed one enclosing a volume such as a spherical surface.

 

[Almo-Fox]

1 minute ago, the fox said:

yeah, i already did, almo

 

and for people too lazy to google:

 

This article is about Gauss's law concerning the electric field. For analogous law concerning different fields, see Gauss's law for magnetism and Gauss's law for gravity. For the Ostrogradsky-Gauss theorem, a mathematical theorem relevant to all of these laws, see Divergence theorem.

In physics, Gauss's law, also known as Gauss's flux theorem, is a law relating the distribution of electric charge to the resulting electric field. The surface under consideration may be a closed one enclosing a volume such as a spherical surface.

 

right man apply it to the situation you get the whole picture and the catch word : Kante 

[Carl the Llama]

9 minutes ago, Almo-Fox said:

right man apply it to the situation you get the whole picture and the catch word : Kante 

Well I cba to revise my high-school physics and Fox's quote doesn't explain the details of Gauss's law at all so hopefully you'd care to explain it in more detail for us dummies.

[Ian Nacho]

No matter what we do, we won't see the real Mahrez play for Leicester again.

[Almo-Fox]

35 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Well I cba to revise my high-school physics and Fox's quote doesn't explain the details of Gauss's law at all so hopefully you'd care to explain it in more detail for us dummies.

it's the Gaussian function , used in statistiques or in matter where distribution flux is concerned , e.g , physics. 

 

applied to the situation ( the other post ! we get the whole picture. ( for x : players s value , for Y : players s quality ) 

 

ps : for your high school , you have already an A plus ( this is my guess ) 

Edited 6 February 2018 by Almo-Fox

[Wymsey]

If he was genuinely sorry, he would've made some form of apology by now.

This situation feels like he's thinks he's bigger than the club and 'deserves better', and it's this type of mentality that could affect the morale of the rest of the team.

[Carl the Llama]

1 hour ago, Almo-Fox said:

it's the Gaussian function , used in statistiques or in matter where distribution flux is concerned , e.g , physics. 

 

applied to the situation ( the other post ! we get the whole picture. ( for x : players s value , for Y : players s quality ) 

 

ps : for your high school , you have already an A plus ( this is my guess ) 

Well since you won't explain it I just looked it up and it looks like you're just trying to be a smart arse about saying that a players value against their ability operates on a bell curve, which is debatable since there doesn't appear to be any consistent logic to the transfer market and a player's value is based on more variables than just their ability.  Even if it was the case how does that explain Mahrez's behaviour?

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Almo-Fox said:

a RC 80-110 m will not stand in mzhrez move 

 

let say man city want buy mahrez buy out clause ( part of it will be paid by a certain company as they did in coutinho move to barca ) 

 

some were saying man city will be beaten by a new club coming into mahrez move ( RM)

Real Madrid will never be signing Mahrez - he isn't good enough. If Some company are no willing to pay £50-60M on top of the same fee for RM then it's a shame they didn't pay £15m extra a few days ago. If negative press about Mahrez being a cry baby who doesn't live up to his contractual obligations means we can get 110M+ I no longer understand the market and say we take it right now. Of course not playing him and him crying some more will logically keep him in the news and then maybe he'll be worth 300M by the summer even though as a player he's not much better than ligue 2 Diabaté.

 

Looks like Almo-Fox is Mahrez family or a schyster.

 

Happy to sell him in the summer for 110M and be finished with his childishness. I can then watch his career peter out on a bench with a smile on my face. It's a shame he doesn't realize that Leicester are a good team and good level for him, where he can be one of the best rather than an occasional fill in player.

[Bluetintedspecs]

32 minutes ago, FIF said:

Real Madrid will never be signing Mahrez - he isn't good enough. If Some company are no willing to pay £50-60M on top of the same fee for RM then it's a shame they didn't pay £15m extra a few days ago. If negative press about Mahrez being a cry baby who doesn't live up to his contractual obligations means we can get 110M+ I no longer understand the market and say we take it right now. Of course not playing him and him crying some more will logically keep him in the news and then maybe he'll be worth 300M by the summer even though as a player he's not much better than ligue 2 Diabaté.

 

Looks like Almo-Fox is Mahrez family or a schyster.

 

Happy to sell him in the summer for 110M and be finished with his childishness. I can then watch his career peter out on a bench with a smile on my face. It's a shame he doesn't realize that Leicester are a good team and good level for him, where he can be one of the best rather than an occasional fill in player.

It actually wouldn't  surprise me if Real Madrid came in for him in the summer Fif , however, this would require mardy arse to put his dummy in, man up and do what he does best! I base this on the fact that Real Madrid are, by their massive size and standards,  in crisis and I can see a massive overhaul in the Summer with outgoings  and incomings.

At his best his flair COULD grace the Bernabeu. Massive ifs and his current behaviour doesn't  warrant it but stranger things have happened!

Edited 6 February 2018 by Bluetintedspecs

[FrankieADZ]

i can imagine the club wont put a release clause in, think they might have been more flexible with any deal if they have enough time to get a replacement in, still hope the club try and get near the £90mil mark as hes worth it tbh, even if most dont believe so.....well since he plays for little old Leicester 

[RowlattsFox]

I think we’d have sold for £65m if it happened earlier in the window. If we really thought he’d go awol we’d have probably accepted the next bid on deadline day too, if he isn’t playing we may as well have sold him. 

[yorkie1999]

3 hours ago, the fox said:

yeah, i already did, almo

 

and for people too lazy to google:

 

This article is about Gauss's law concerning the electric field. For analogous law concerning different fields, see Gauss's law for magnetism and Gauss's law for gravity. For the Ostrogradsky-Gauss theorem, a mathematical theorem relevant to all of these laws, see Divergence theorem.

In physics, Gauss's law, also known as Gauss's flux theorem, is a law relating the distribution of electric charge to the resulting electric field. The surface under consideration may be a closed one enclosing a volume such as a spherical surface.

 

It’s what makes magnets move when you surround them with an electrical field. 

[Almo-Fox]

40 minutes ago, FIF said:

Real Madrid will never be signing Mahrez - he isn't good enough. If Some company are no willing to pay £50-60M on top of the same fee for RM then it's a shame they didn't pay £15m extra a few days ago. If negative press about Mahrez being a cry baby who doesn't live up to his contractual obligations means we can get 110M+ I no longer understand the market and say we take it right now. Of course not playing him and him crying some more will logically keep him in the news and then maybe he'll be worth 300M by the summer even though as a player he's not much better than ligue 2 Diabaté.

 

Looks like Almo-Fox is Mahrez family or a schyster.

 

Happy to sell him in the summer for 110M and be finished with his childishness. I can then watch his career peter out on a bench with a smile on my face. It's a shame he doesn't realize that Leicester are a good team and good level for him, where he can be one of the best rather than an occasional fill in player.

nice post, mate , except the anxious mood in the last sentence 

for RM ( zidane has asked to bring in mzhrez in the last summer but but got a strait NO from Perez ) but as other posters said in this mayhem RM is forced to make big changes ( out/ins ) in the next transfer window 

 

Mahrez is not in a depressive mood nor in childish reaction , he is acting in a serious and reflected answer to what he felt as a  negative position from the owners to the verbal agreement, although he is genuinely upset when the move failed )

 

 

finally, of course mahrez can play in Leicester now as puel had adopted z new strategy with more controllig of the ball with les searing the pressure of the adverse team ( this strategy needs quality and we can see it in the numbers if the players kept or offloaded )

[ZeGuy]

9 minutes ago, Almo-Fox said:

nice post, mate , except the anxious mood in the last sentence 

for RM ( zidane has asked to bring in mzhrez in the last summer but but got a strait NO from Perez ) but as other posters said in this mayhem RM is forced to make big changes ( out/ins ) in the next transfer window 

 

Mahrez is not in a depressive mood nor in childish reaction , he is acting in a serious and reflected answer to what he felt as a  negative position from the owners to the verbal agreement, although he is genuinely upset when the move failed )

 

 

finally, of course mahrez can play in Leicester now as puel had adopted z new strategy with more controllig of the ball with les searing the pressure of the adverse team ( this strategy needs quality and we can see it in the numbers if the players kept or offloaded )

Serious and reflected behavior? What's The stuff you're smoking? I want some.

[the fox]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

Happy to sell him in the summer for 110M and be finished with his childishness. I can then watch his career peter out on a bench with a smile on my face. It's a shame he doesn't realize that Leicester are a good team and good level for him, where he can be one of the best rather than an occasional fill in player.

And be what? The best of the rest? The best player outside the top 6? Because he is already that!

 

Just look at salah, having the season of his life yet he isn't running away with the poty award because man city are so far ahead. Salah is having by far the better season  but i wouldn't be surprised  if KDB takes it. pool aren't even 2nd. to be the best you have to play for the best and perform at the highest level.

 

Why so bitter? i would have understood it if you had this attitude after the things he did last week but you had this attitude against him for the longest.

 

Did it burn when kante was considered world class right after he started playing with chelsea? because that's football and i can't blame him for leaving the club. Yes, kante iswas too good for us and people are afraid that the same will be proven in the case of riyad and that's why they hold a grudge.

 

How dare he think he is good enough to become one of the best players in the world?
Just give it time and people will start talking about how simmo is not offering enough going forward (at least more than before). there would be no riyad to blame anymore!

 

The days of having a game winner like him is sadly behind us. People won't appreciate how good of a footballer riyad is until he starts killing it with a top 6 team instead of playing as a LWB for 90% of the time. and i'm sure you (and many) will say that he wasn't putting 100% while playing here instead of accepting the fact that he is now playing with players who are on the same level (technically) as him. If pep can get that much out of raheem, he would do wonders for riyad

 

Edited 6 February 2018 by the fox

[Almo-Fox]

14 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Serious and reflected behavior? What's The stuff you're smoking? I want some.

he was upset on day one ( said cannot understand ( accept) why they have done to me ,  so mshrez reacted emotionally to their breach of the moral ( verbal  ) agreement )

 

after et day one , he is acting through a strategy based on his agent ( Kia) advises ( mahrez is responfing by a law- informed strategy to the owners ,) so we are just amidst this talks ,

 

as as for the stuff, I usually used UPS , so from canada to Europe , I presume the charges will be on you expenses .  give me a hint