Riyad Mahrez

[Jimmy]

1 minute ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Our biggest concern is that our transfer window closes a couple of weeks before the rest of Europe. We could've concluded or business then still lose players.

just because we can doesn't mean we have to sell to foreign clubs after our window shuts and other than Mahrez I don't see anyone foreign teams will look at in our squad

[lgfualol]

Diabate, Gray and Albrighton are nowhere close to his talent. We need to buy 2 great attacking players to replace. Diabate and Gray could get there, but both have poo end product.

[FoxTrott]

Got a photo of him saying bye.

[the fox]

They say lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place but who knows.

 

He caused a lot of trouble with his transfer buffoonery but he seemed like the perfect guy to partner Vardy. His passiveness was the foil to Vardy's aggressiveness and vice-versa. The managed to create a balance between being a frenzied butcher and a calm assassin. Vards with his larger-than-life personality and big mouth and Riyad's preserved, shy and somewhat eccentric demeanor allowed them to flourish. They didn't step on each others toes and they both knew what to do. While I don't think they are friends, I imagine that they respect each other a lot.

 

A French-Algerian brown boy and a Sheffield Chav running amok. I guess opposites do attract

 

Edited 13 May 2018 by the fox

[Foxxed]

We'll need 13 goals and 10 assists next season to replace him.

 

If Diabate, Ian, Gray and Barnes start scoring and assisting, our defence improves drastically and we sign a new winger then perhaps we'll approach his contribution.

 

But it'll be undoubtedly a difficult season.

[Jimmy]

also with Mahrez going our entire system will likely evolve from basically going through one player which has to help

[Ian Nacho]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

We'll need 13 goals and 10 assists next season to replace him.

 

If Diabate, Ian, Gray and Barnes start scoring and assisting, our defence improves drastically and we sign a new winger then perhaps we'll approach his contribution.

 

But it'll be undoubtedly a difficult season.

 

We simply cannot replace him, we'll have to do something different.

[Guest]

Just now, Ian Nacho said:

We simply cannot replace him, we'll have to do something different.

We have a wealth of attacking options. What we need is to rebuild the defence to the heights of the title winning season.

[the fox]

26 minutes ago, FIF said:

We have a wealth of attacking options. What we need is to rebuild the defence to the heights of the title winning season.

No, we don't. We have a player who gets most of his assists off crosses and 2 projects.

 

too bad at least one of them gonna be scapegoated because, 1- he doesn't produce enough or 2- he doesn't plow the field like a cocaine-fuelled mule despite having elite production for his position.

 

They can't win.

[Foxxed]

17 minutes ago, the fox said:

No, we don't. We have a player who gets most of his assists off crosses and 2 projects.

 

too bad at least one of them gonna be scapegoated because, 1- he doesn't produce enough or 2- he doesn't plow the field like a cocaine-fuelled mule despite having elite production for his position.

 

They can't win.

Plowing the field like a cocaine-fuelled mule? For a non native speaker you have a wonderful way with words. Ian will be good for two more goals and assists next season given the same amount of time I think. Providing we can get the ball out of midfield, that is. I'm not sure about the rest.

 

We'll need a creator. That doesn't look like Silva. It's not Iborra. Barnes is very unlikely to suddenly become our creative midfielder. And I don't think Ndidi will be anything other than a increasingly fantastic defensive midfielder. I agree with the above: we'll have to change our tactic. How, I have no idea. It'll be interesting.

[the fox]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

Plowing the field like a cocaine-fuelled mule? For a non native speaker you have a wonderful way with words. Ian will be good for two more goals and assists next season given the same amount of time I think. Providing we can get the ball out of midfield, that is. I'm not sure about the rest.

 

We'll need a creator. That doesn't look like Silva. It's not Iborra. Barnes is very unlikely to suddenly become our creative midfielder. And I don't think Ndidi will be anything other than a increasingly fantastic defensive midfielder. I agree with the above: we'll have to change our tactic. How, I have no idea. It'll be interesting.

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And that's my point. But i'm sure a lot of fans want the good things from "flair" players but aren't OK with the bad. To be creative you have to be risky. We need a player who leads the team. or like Americans say "a needle mover". A creative player makes mistakes. Did anyone see the "possessions lost" stats for elite playmakers? it is astonishing. People here go on an on about pseudo football fans who "only watch MOTD" but if they had the chance to watch every match of every good player (like Silva, KDB, Kane, Hazard, Sanchez..etc) they would be amazed by how bad they look for a stretch of time/games. Even the greatest player of all time imo, Messi, can look like a below average player for a full 90 minutes. 

 

Thing is, with a non-big club like ours, a player who loses possession is deemed "bad" immediately because, over time, there are not that many great "flair" players to eradicate this stigma out of the club. I've been saying it for a while now.

 

Imagine if Mahrez never played here and a person tells you "would you have a player with a passive body language, isn't a very good defender, blows hot and cold, runs to blind alleys and can go missing for 89 minutes of a game but can really light it up when he's in form?". 99% of the fans would spit on that guy's face for even daring to ask such question. because it's always "a cup half empty" for football fans. Especially true for a lot of the English fans who want no-nonsense hard workers instead of those flair players and bad work rate".

 

But i see change. The bad rep is slowly fading away and a "flair" player is the sh*t at the moment. When you see the upsides of something first-hand, you are more than inclined to tolerate the bulljive. It applies to houses, expensive cars, expensive food and even women.

 

 

 

 

Edited 14 May 2018 by the fox

[Guest]

23 hours ago, the fox said:

No, we don't. We have a player who gets most of his assists off crosses and 2 projects.

 

too bad at least one of them gonna be scapegoated because, 1- he doesn't produce enough or 2- he doesn't plow the field like a cocaine-fuelled mule despite having elite production for his position.

 

They can't win.

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

[ithuriel]

2 minutes ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

Why put off for tomorrow what you can do today 

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

Not sure where to start on this FIF ........

[the fox]

15 minutes ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

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It's almost like you just listed the production of strikers to point out that a right midfielder playing in a 4-4-2 isn't as productive (which is false anyways). I'm flabbergasted atm

 

 

BTW, Vardy has 21 goals+assists in the league and Riyad has 22 in 297 fewer minutes (less than 3-something games with no penalties)

 

And this Goal per minute is a bunch of bulljive seeing that a lot of those goals are against a lot weaker competition. But yeah, I'm sure those 3 (other than Vards) can produce the same output pre 90 minutes in the PL

Edited 15 May 2018 by the fox

[Charl91]

15 minutes ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

 

It's odd that no-one's lining up to buy Okazaki, Iheanacho and Slimani for 50m+ 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, the fox said:

It's almost like you just listed the production of strikers to point out that a right midfielder playing in a 4-4-2 isn't as productive. I'm flabbergasted atm

 

 

BTW, Vardy has 21 goals+assists in the league and Riyad has 22 in 297 fewer minutes (less than 3-something games with not penalties)

 

And this Goal per minute is a bunch of bulljive seeing that a lot of those goals are against a lot weaker competition. But yeah, I'm sure those 3 (other than Vards) can produce the same output pre 90 minutes in the PL

Of course I talked about attackers, if you noticed you highlighted the fact that we didn't have attacking options.

 

I love the way you ignore the stats on slimani and Iheanacho and okazki and then come up with a joint stat of goals and assists compared to Vardy (you really have a problem with our best player :-)) I clearly spoke about Vardy's (and Okazaki's) goal scoring not their assists.

 

Not quite sure how you can claim Iheanacho's stats are against weaker competition - he played his most minutes against Arse and Spuds - Mahrez is reknowned for scoring against West Brom and he gets the chance to play 90 minutes almost every game.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 

It's odd that no-one's lining up to buy Okazaki, Iheanacho and Slimani for 50m+ 

We don't have any player with a line of team's offering £50M+ do we?

 

But you missed the point. The Fox said we don't have any attacking options next year and I pointed out the good options that we really do have. I'm just defending the players we have.

 

If Mahrez wants to stay he can, you do realise that too don't you? 

 

p.s. No more replies from me here tonight so that I don't get in trouble. Off to the transfers section.

 

 

Edited 15 May 2018 by Guest

[the fox]

25 minutes ago, FIF said:

Of course I talked about attackers, if you noticed you highlighted the fact that we didn't have attacking options.

 

I love the way you ignore the stats on slimani and Iheanacho and okazki and then come up with a joint stat of goals and assists compared to Vardy (you really have a problem with our best player :-)) I clearly spoke about Vardy's (and Okazaki's) goal scoring not their assists.

 

Not quite sure how you can claim Iheanacho's stats are against weaker competition - he played his most minutes against Arse and Spuds - Mahrez is reknowned for scoring against West Brom and he gets the chance to play 90 minutes almost every game.

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I refuse to believe that you misunderstood my point. You know well that I meant Mids/Wingers.

 

 Oh, my bad FIF. so, if I understood you well, according to you, It's fair to compare a striker's goal output against a midfielder but it is outrageous and unjust to compare Goals+assists. silly me.

 

5 goals vs Fleetwood, Peterborough and Leeds. 5 of his 8 goals are against those clubs.

 

You do know that Goals per minute doesn't translate well if the sample is too small, right? Call it the Gray syndrome. Just because you can light it up with limited minutes doesn't mean that said production can be stretched for a 90 minutes game.

 

Do you watch basketball much, FIF? If so, then you should know that per-36 isn't a just stat for players playing less than 20 minutes a game.

 

And just to add, let's say that kelechi or Okazaki can produce 22 goals+assists. Are those numbers coming from a striker or a midfielder? because you can't play Kelechi, Vards and Okazaki at the same time

Edited 15 May 2018 by the fox

[Redouane]

2 hours ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

Last year when I was defending Slimani with the goals per 90, you said it didn't mean anything, and now it's the most important fact? Oh the irony. 

[Leeds Fox]

On 14/05/2018 at 23:10, the fox said:

And that's my point. But i'm sure a lot of fans want the good things from "flair" players but aren't OK with the bad. To be creative you have to be risky. We need a player who leads the team. or like Americans say "a needle mover". A creative player makes mistakes. Did anyone see the "possessions lost" stats for elite playmakers? it is astonishing. People here go on an on about pseudo football fans who "only watch MOTD" but if they had the chance to watch every match of every good player (like Silva, KDB, Kane, Hazard, Sanchez..etc) they would be amazed by how bad they look for a stretch of time/games. Even the greatest player of all time imo, Messi, can look like a below average player for a full 90 minutes. 

 

Thing is, with a non-big club like ours, a player who loses possession is deemed "bad" immediately because, over time, there are not that many great "flair" players to eradicate this stigma out of the club. I've been saying it for a while now.

 

Imagine if Mahrez never played here and a person tells you "would you have a player with a passive body language, isn't a very good defender, blows hot and cold, runs to blind alleys and can go missing for 89 minutes of a game but can really light it up when he's in form?". 99% of the fans would spit on that guy's face for even daring to ask such question. because it's always "a cup half empty" for football fans. Especially true for a lot of the English fans who want no-nonsense hard workers instead of those flair players and bad work rate".

 

But i see change. The bad rep is slowly fading away and a "flair" player is the sh*t at the moment. When you see the upsides of something first-hand, you are more than inclined to tolerate the bulljive. It applies to houses, expensive cars, expensive food and even women.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares what Americans would say. Sounds a load of ‘bulljive’ to me, whatever that is.

[ScouseFox]

3 hours ago, FIF said:

We have both Iheanacho and Slimani if you check the stats you love so much they both have better or about the same goals AND assists per min as Mahrez in the prem for us and if they include cup games much better. Okazaki also has better goal stats and of course Vardy is on a completely different level for goal stats. I realise that you're a big Mahrez fan but the stats make it clear. I also feel that Silva will step up in the assists category if he is given the game time.

 

Why not wait until next season before the doom and gloom?

what is the point of your argument? slimani is better than mahrez? okazaki is better than mahrez? stop chatting complete and utter shite for the sake of it. if we sell mahrez and don't unearth some utter gem of a player we are completely fu cked. adrien silva is not going to step up and become one of the best players in the world. get your head in the real world. 

[the fox]

1 hour ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

Quite frankly, nobody cares what Americans would say. Sounds a load of ‘bulljive’ to me, whatever that is.

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It's a milder word for bullsh*t

[st albans fox]

If this fella gets his move to Man City then we will be wowed by what we see in a few months. Look what pep has done with sterling,  Delph and otamendi!  Word is he really rates Riyad and I would expect him to spend plenty of time coaching him. 

 

i think he may have an idea that he could nurture him into silva’s replacement. That’s going to be tough as will require a big mindset change to be releasing the ball quickly for return passes rather than dribbling around every obstacle. 

 

the only issue riyad has is that his family are settled in London and I wonder if Chelsea came up with the money - would he put his family ahead of his career?? 

[Guest Markyblue]

5 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

what is the point of your argument? slimani is better than mahrez? okazaki is better than mahrez? stop chatting complete and utter shite for the sake of it. if we sell mahrez and don't unearth some utter gem of a player we are completely fu cked. adrien silva is not going to step up and become one of the best players in the world. get your head in the real world. 

Why don't we just change our name to mahrez city and then some of you on here will be happier than when we won the league. ?