oxford blue Posted 8 July 2019 Posted 8 July 2019 It seems as if my concerns of yesterday have now been addressed! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48903289 If VAR is used as Mike Riley wishes, I am now more optimistic about its introduction
davieG Posted 8 July 2019 Posted 8 July 2019 9 minutes ago, oxford blue said: It seems as if my concerns of yesterday have now been addressed! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48903289 If VAR is used as Mike Riley wishes, I am now more optimistic about its introduction We need to get to a stage where the interpretation and use of VAR is the same across all competitions. It seems to me that FIFA have relinquished this control to the different Football Associations and even down to the leagues and competitions within those Associations. For Mike Riley to be talking about the PL doing things differently, although seemingly a better interpretation is all wrong. Participants in the game should not have to put up with all the different interpretations.
Super_horns Posted 8 July 2019 Posted 8 July 2019 14 minutes ago, oxford blue said: It seems as if my concerns of yesterday have now been addressed! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48903289 If VAR is used as Mike Riley wishes, I am now more optimistic about its introduction We will see - are all officials going to be consistent?
ozleicester Posted 8 July 2019 Posted 8 July 2019 So VAR is going to be inconsistent.... isnt that what is was supposed to put an end to. Lets just remove the ref and have the VAR make ALL decisions
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 If VAR was used in the Cricket World Cup Final... Would England be Champions?
StanSP Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 2 hours ago, ozleicester said: If VAR was used in the Cricket World Cup Final... Would England be Champions? Yes? What decisions would need to be overturned to change the outcome?
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 11 minutes ago, StanSP said: Yes? What decisions would need to be overturned to change the outcome? The extra run awarded from the overthrows?
StanSP Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 24 minutes ago, ozleicester said: The extra run awarded from the overthrows? Yes.
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 4 minutes ago, StanSP said: Yes. “They (England) should have been awarded five runs, not six," Taufel told Fox Sports. “It’s a clear mistake … it’s an error of judgment. https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/cricket-why-umpires-may-have-got-crucial-world-cup-final-call-wrong/567925a0-4c25-4d79-b39a-7e748cf2614a
yorkie1999 Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 24 minutes ago, ozleicester said: “They (England) should have been awarded five runs, not six," Taufel told Fox Sports. “It’s a clear mistake … it’s an error of judgment. https://wwos.nine.com.au/cricket/cricket-why-umpires-may-have-got-crucial-world-cup-final-call-wrong/567925a0-4c25-4d79-b39a-7e748cf2614a The article also quotes Giles saying Stokes could have smacked it out the ground on the next ball because he would have known he needed another run.
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 3 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: The article also quotes Giles saying Stokes could have smacked it out the ground on the next ball because he would have known he needed another run. But thats all possible... the decision was still wrong! AND.... Rashid wouldve been facing and not Stokes..so...
oxford blue Posted 10 August 2019 Posted 10 August 2019 I have put this on this thread rather than on the PL one, but the disallowed goal because Sterling's shoulder was millimetres offside does prompt two more general questions. If there are anwers I'd like to know... Does the accuracy of the 'lines' the video referee see depend on camera position? I would have thought there has to be some distortion (a few millimetres?) unless the camera is not directly in line with the incident. The offside rule refers to a ball being touched or played. When does this occur? Is it the moment first touches a player passing a ball, or the moment it leaves his foot? Only milliseconds, but enough to make a crucial decision where a player is moving forward at speed and is millimetres offside. I had thought only obvious errors would be changed. I think if there is an element of doubt (and I am not convinced there can be none in today's incident), the advantage should be with the attacking team.
yorkie1999 Posted 10 August 2019 Posted 10 August 2019 10 minutes ago, oxford blue said: I have put this on this thread rather than on the PL one, but the disallowed goal because Sterling's shoulder was millimetres offside does prompt two more general questions. If there are anwers I'd like to know... Does the accuracy of the 'lines' the video referee see depend on camera position? I would have thought there has to be some distortion (a few millimetres?) unless the camera is not directly in line with the incident. The offside rule refers to a ball being touched or played. When does this occur? Is it the moment first touches a player passing a ball, or the moment it leaves his foot? Only milliseconds, but enough to make a crucial decision where a player is moving forward at speed and is millimetres offside. I had thought only obvious errors would be changed. I think if there is an element of doubt (and I am not convinced there can be none in today's incident), the advantage should be with the attacking team. I think there should be a smal tolerance built in to compensate for slight errors, much like a speed camera.
BoyJones Posted 10 August 2019 Posted 10 August 2019 It's still too subjective, look at the Spurs shout for the penalty near the end. Defender raises his hand, the ball hits it and deflects to the keeper. Even the Villa fan in the club was expecting the worst. Another time, that will be given.
fuchsntf Posted 12 August 2019 Posted 12 August 2019 Spaß debate...with Andy Cole & Merson...Bloody funny!! Good points on sizes....big shoulders, Big feet..etc???
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