VAR yes or no ..... Discuss

[kingfox]

Well Amrabat certainly doesn't want it.

[RutlanderFox]

What’s happened tonight wasn’t the fault of VAR it was the poor interpretation of the handball rule. When VAR has given penalties for anything other than handballs it’s been correct every time so it’s clearly having a positive effect. The vague handball rule and having officials from different countries and different FAs interpreting it differently is what is holding football back. For me FIFA needs to rewrite the handball rule and the corresponding guidelines completely 

[Suzie the Fox]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

But we've had a huge net gain of correct decisions in this tournament and only one or two gone wrong. 

 

It's not going to be 100%

 

Drogba 

Totally agree, hence why i am all for VAR. I also know that with human element involved there will never be a 100% ratio. However the decision in the Portugal v Iran game was ..hmmm ..a JOKE ? Ofc football will often be about interpretation of who did what and was it intentional but ..come on.. No way was that a penalty. 

 

Just my feelings and rant off. 

 

TLDR i like VAR, but do hope it is implemented alot better in the future. 

[Super_horns]

7 hours ago, kingfox said:

Well Amrabat certainly doesn't want it.

He is always moaning that bloke!

 

The other day he said it should be used for "everything" or "nothing" - well we cannot have the game stopping every 2 seconds because x player thinks there is an incident that needs to be reviewed.

 

 

[shen]

6 hours ago, RutlanderFox said:

What’s happened tonight wasn’t the fault of VAR it was the poor interpretation of the handball rule. When VAR has given penalties for anything other than handballs it’s been correct every time so it’s clearly having a positive effect. The vague handball rule and having officials from different countries and different FAs interpreting it differently is what is holding football back. For me FIFA needs to rewrite the handball rule and the corresponding guidelines completely 

If the Denmark - Australia peno was one, then so was the one for Iran.

Again, VAR not 'at fault' but the handball rule is a bit dumb.

Odd also that the ref judges Ronaldo to get a yellow. Leaves me with the feeling had it been Silva, the ref would've not hesitated to show a red.

[The Doctor]

8 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Totally agree, hence why i am all for VAR. I also know that with human element involved there will never be a 100% ratio. However the decision in the Portugal v Iran game was ..hmmm ..a JOKE ? Ofc football will often be about interpretation of who did what and was it intentional but ..come on.. No way was that a penalty. 

 

Just my feelings and rant off. 

 

TLDR i like VAR, but do hope it is implemented alot better in the future. 

Same as the Denmark v Australia penalty. The issue is the handball rule, not VAR

[MrSpaM]

All players need to have their arms surgically removed at the elbows, that's the only way of fixing the hand ball rule

[davieG]

3 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

All players need to have their arms surgically removed at the elbows, that's the only way of fixing the hand ball rule

Just dislocate the shoulder joints and they'll hang freely by their sides. Stop the elbowing as well.

[ozleicester]

refs need to get in the bin... just do it all by VAR

[The Doctor]

10 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

All players need to have their arms surgically removed at the elbows, that's the only way of fixing the hand ball rule

Does that include keepers? Because that'd be superb - absolute goalfest

[Donut]

I think the problem with VAR has come full circle, the referees on occasions now are too keen to reverse their original decision.

 

The onus should still be on the decision given at real speed, with the referees view, rather than looking at different angles, slowed down and repeated non stop.

 

The idea was to prevent the referee having made an obvious mistake, and unless a player has run across his vision or he bought a terrible dive, we should not really be seeing many decisions being overturned.

 

That is, assuming they are making half decent original decisions.

[the fox]

Mistakes happen either way. I say give every team 3 chances to review a decision for the 90 minutes and an extra 1 for extra time. VAR should not be used "overzealously" by the refs. 

 

What I like to see implemented is penalties against people who dive and then call for VAR. A yellow or a free throw in your own half for the other team if you try to trick the ref and waste people's time.

[Izzy]

[The Doctor]

4 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Of course. It's all down to the inferior genetic stock, and nothing to do with a succession of shit managers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/09/gordon-strachan-blames-scotlands-genetics-world-cup-failure/

[Guest]

Think it's working very very well at the moment.

 

It's certainly increasing the number og goals and making it likely that a penalty taker wins the golden boot.

[Izzy]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

Of course. It's all down to the inferior genetic stock, and nothing to do with a succession of shit managers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/09/gordon-strachan-blames-scotlands-genetics-world-cup-failure/

FFS 

 

"We had to pick a team to combat the height and strength at set-plays. Genetically we have to work at things, maybe we get big women and men together and see what we can do"

[The Doctor]

9 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

FFS 

 

"We had to pick a team to combat the height and strength at set-plays. Genetically we have to work at things, maybe we get big women and men together and see what we can do"

Pfft, does your manager fancy some low key eugenics to improve the national team? No. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

20 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

You don't need VAR.

[Trav Le Bleu]

14 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's obviously not really redundant it just still had an element of human error. 

 

Why are people coming out with such stupidly all or nothing arguments, like there's still some human error and there's still some mistakes so just **** the whole thing off? 

 

 

Eh? That's what I said.

 

It's redundant if it takes ages to consult, encourages players to complain to the ref, interrupts the flow of play and the final decision is ultimately a personal viewpoint (which a fair few rules in football are). Useful for off sides, goalkick/corner, decisions; less useful for fouls or handball where an element of intent creeps in. Often slo-mo makes a foul or handball look worse, as it seems the player had all the time in the world to avoid their infringement, when of course they didn't. You'd hope refs would know this, but

 

[Rusko187]

All in favour of VAR, however it's exposing referees who are clearly not capable of officiating a game. Either that or the rule book needs to be heavily looked at to ensure there are no grey areas.

Can't understand the hate in giving the referee to review a decision, we will all be loving it if it came down to a world cup winning decision!

[Trav Le Bleu]

43 minutes ago, Rusko187 said:

All in favour of VAR, however it's exposing referees who are clearly not capable of officiating a game. Either that or the rule book needs to be heavily looked at to ensure there are no grey areas.

Can't understand the hate in giving the referee to review a decision, we will all be loving it if it came down to a world cup winning decision!

Football 2.0

[Finnegan]

2 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

 

That's already clear and obvious. 

[StanSP]

@st albans fox Cekir just stuck with his decision in the Nigeria game after being told to review an incident  and checking it himself  

[Super_horns]

Right so now all those Nigeria players should be booked for time wasting and dissent ?

[st albans fox]

51 minutes ago, StanSP said:

@st albans fox Cekir just stuck with his decision in the Nigeria game after being told to review an incident  and checking it himself  

I noted a distinct change in the number of reviews today  and was delighted to see a decent referee give the var the short shrift that his referral deserved.