Colombia v England - last 16 round - 03/07 at 19:00ko

[AyewJoking]

Best ever chance to make the final?

Seems like its gone from comfortable low expectation to serious pressure now.

 

 

[Izzy]

[bluefox76]

Start vards ahead of rashford and sterling for me.

[Max Wall]

28 minutes ago, bluefox76 said:

Start vards ahead of rashford and sterling for me.

There'll understandably be a lot who agree with you on here but I can't see Sterling not starting.

[Donut]

Vardy wont be starting, and who cares, this is England not Leicester, we have a formula and now is not the time to start messing it about.

[Brainy]

I'd love to see Vardy start but I think i'd rather see us play with 11 men

[Max Wall]

5 hours ago, Walkers said:

I'd love to see Vardy start but I think i'd rather see us play with 11 men

Wow

[z-layrex]

8 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

Wow

He's right.

[Max Wall]

6 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

He's right.

So playing with Vardy is like playing with 10 men? 

Yeah, I don't agree.

Edited 2 July 2018 by Max Wall

[ClaphamFox]

5 hours ago, Walkers said:

I'd love to see Vardy start but I think i'd rather see us play with 11 men

I actually agree with bluefox76 - I think we should play Vardy instead of Sterling and Rashford. Having the confidence to play with ten men sends a message - the other teams will be proper frit.

[z-layrex]

1 hour ago, Max Wall said:

So playing with Vardy is like playing with 10 men? 

Yeah, I don't agree.

 

It is because they don't play to his strengths in any way, shape or form. I'm not blaming Jamie at all.

[bluefox76]

They don't play to Vards strengths agreed. Just think he puts more of a shift in than the other two. 

[Captain...]

2 hours ago, Max Wall said:

So playing with Vardy is like playing with 10 men? 

Yeah, I don't agree.

 

For England it has been as no fvcker passes to him.

 

If you piss about with it in the middle  it gives the defence time to set up to nullify Vardy. You could say the same is happening to Sterling dynamic attacking  player banging in the goals for Man City who play quick attacking positive football. A few sideways passes and he has to check his run and try and find space again against a set defence.

 

Edited 2 July 2018 by Captain...

[Max Wall]

1 hour ago, z-layrex said:

It is because they don't play to his strengths in any way, shape or form. I'm not blaming Jamie at all.

I'm not saying you're blaming Vardy. To say it's like playing with 10 men is ridiculous though, that's why I disagreed with the original poster who said that.

[RowlattsFox]

I may be proven wrong by stats but I don't think Vardy puts anywhere near the shift he did a couple of years back. Not that I blame him for that because its impossible to maintain the same extreme work rate, for us he's been much more specific as to when to put the extra work in and for England he spends most of the game standing next to the centre backs waiting for the ball.

[Donut]

3 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I may be proven wrong by stats but I don't think Vardy puts anywhere near the shift he did a couple of years back. Not that I blame him for that because its impossible to maintain the same extreme work rate, for us he's been much more specific as to when to put the extra work in and for England he spends most of the game standing next to the centre backs waiting for the ball.

To be honest, he doesn't NEED to put the shifts in he did a couple of years back.

 

As he ages, more and more he will become a box player and rely on sharp movement rather than out and out pace to find the net.

 

If the organisation of the counter press is good, he will only press when triggered by a bad touch or an identified weak player too to press

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

45 minutes ago, Donut said:

To be honest, he doesn't NEED to put the shifts in he did a couple of years back.

 

As he ages, more and more he will become a box player and rely on sharp movement rather than out and out pace to find the net.

 

If the organisation of the counter press is good, he will only press when triggered by a bad touch or an identified weak player too to press

Which he did very well against Belgium

[Brainy]

3 hours ago, Max Wall said:

I'm not saying you're blaming Vardy. To say it's like playing with 10 men is ridiculous though, that's why I disagreed with the original poster who said that.

Well yeah he can chase down defenders and win us a few throw ins that would end with us having possession in our own third. Of course its nothing against him but his recent England performances he has been a passenger.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

3 minutes ago, Walkers said:

Well yeah he can chase down defenders and win us a few throw ins that would end with us having possession in our own third. Of course its nothing against him but his recent England performances he has been a passenger.

I wouldnt agree with that re. Belgium

[Brainy]

6 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

I wouldnt agree with that re. Belgium

Must be a Leicester fan

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

2 minutes ago, Walkers said:

Must be a Leicester fan

Who was better than him?

 

Cant call him a passenger in that game unless you think someone else in that game wasnt a passenger

 

And he was out best player, created our only chance

 

 

Edited 2 July 2018 by AlloverthefloorYesNdidi

[Brainy]

1 minute ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Who was better than him?

 

Cant call him a passenger in that game unless you think someone else in that game wasnt a passenger

 

And he was out best player, created our only chance

 

 

 

What? Don't be daft

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

Just now, Walkers said:

What? Don't be daft

Who played well in that game then?

[ClaphamFox]

Nobody played well because they had clearly been told to avoid injuries and yellow cards. That was the main priority. Vardy worked hard but didn't have much impact. His performance wasn't really any better or worse than anybody else's.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

Nobody played well because they had clearly been told to avoid injuries and yellow cards. That was the main priority. Vardy worked hard but didn't have much impact. His performance wasn't really any better or worse than anybody else's.

Exactly. Cant call him a passenger if everyone was s***