lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Just now, Jon the Hat said: We then call the EU's bluff that hasn't worked so well for the last two years though, has it?
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 1 minute ago, lifted*fox said: that hasn't worked so well for the last two years though, has it? We haven't called their bluff at all though have we.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said: We haven't called their bluff at all though have we. Yes we did, we voted to "leave".
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 She has got more concessions. Interesting. 1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said: Yes we did, we voted to "leave". and then spent 2 years making it completely clear we would sign anything to pretend to leave while really staying.
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 at her trying to make herself a hero of democracy at the end. wow. where to begin.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 BBC news shows no tweets after her saying she listened. Ten minutes of nothing.
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said: BBC news shows no tweets after her saying she listened. Ten minutes of nothing. good old impartial bbc
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 When Corbyn makes more sense than the PM we are really in the shit.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Oh no order restored, he contradicted himself.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Just now, lifted*fox said: That is a very very good point. She has committed to honoring the result of the referendum though, and that would not be it.
Nalis Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Love Corybn's usual slating of May's 'botched deal' with no alternative suggestion whatsoever...
Dr The Singh Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Delaying will defo mean the end of May........there is no way she can convince her party to sign up is there?
Dr The Singh Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Just now, Nalis said: Love Corybn's usual slating of May's 'botched deal' with no alternative suggestion whatsoever... Corbyn is in the same school of arguing as my wife........pointless!!
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Well that might be the most sense Bercow has ever said.
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 1 minute ago, Nalis said: Love Corybn's usual slating of May's 'botched deal' with no alternative suggestion whatsoever... he doesn't have to offer anything. his party didn't cause this and the tories are suffocating themselves until they're blue in the face. he's playing the waiting game and it's all he needs to do. never interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 1 minute ago, lifted*fox said: he doesn't have to offer anything. his party didn't cause this and the tories are suffocating themselves until they're blue in the face. he's playing the waiting game and it's all he needs to do. never interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake. That is fine for one debate, but they have added nothing to his process from the start to the near finish, when the Government has shot itself in the foot arse and face time after time. Oh for a decent Government and HM Opposition!
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 ooh i like this short-haired scottish lass. who dat?
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 4 minutes ago, lifted*fox said: ooh i like this short-haired scottish lass. who dat? Rewound - Kirsty Blackman. SNP North Aberdeen,
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 she looked quite nice there, not so much on further investigation. oh well
Foxxed Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 15 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: We haven't called their bluff at all though have we. When your 'opponent' knows that you only have 2 trillion, that they have 16 trillion, that you need them for 40% of your wealth, that they need you for significantly less, when you both know each other's economies inside out - how can you bluff? We know what's at stake. They know what's at stake. We know how much it will effect them. They know how it will effect us. The cards are face up on the table, and always have been. The only way we can bluff is to say: we'll have a no deal Brexit. And they have said "Okay."
lifted*fox Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 yvette cooper one of the best in the game - clear, concise, intelligent, to the point.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 3 minutes ago, Foxxed said: When your 'opponent' knows that you only have 2 trillion, that they have 16 trillion, that you need them for 40% of your wealth, that they need you for significantly less, when you both know each other's economies inside out - how can you bluff? We know what's at stake. They know what's at stake. We know how much it will effect them. They know how it will effect us. The cards are face up on the table, and always have been. The only way we can bluff is to say: we'll have a no deal Brexit. And they have said "Okay." EU exports are between 12-15% of the economy, not even close to 40%. Try to get some facts right.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 Anyhow, I am open to a deal of course, but this deal is not a deal, it is an open ended negotiating period in which we are basically still in, but without any power over anything including when we can actually leave.
davieG Posted 10 December 2018 Posted 10 December 2018 4 minutes ago, Foxxed said: The only way we can bluff is to say: we'll have a no deal Brexit. And they have said "Okay." Because we never showed in any way that we were serious about a no deal and they could see that as well.
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