Buce Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 Does what it says on the tin. UK facing constitutional crisis over Brexit legal advice: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46419790 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 3 December 2018 Author Share Posted 3 December 2018 The stark evidence of racial bias in Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/02/revealed-the-stark-evidence-of-everyday-racial-bias-in-britain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 https://www.The Sun./a-cracking-pair-of-knockers-to-start-your-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 1 hour ago, Buce said: The stark evidence of racial bias in Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/02/revealed-the-stark-evidence-of-everyday-racial-bias-in-britain Personally I'd like to see a widespread anonymous poll asking questions that relate to how the responder feels about other races... asking people if they feel racially discriminated against doesn't prove that they actually were. And indeed even if the responder is accurately gauging the situation, without data on frequency of occurrence it doesn't tell us much - if they all experienced racism just once in the last years then it isn't exactly proof of a widespread problem. More information needed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 46 minutes ago, Countryfox said: https://www.The Sun./a-cracking-pair-of-knockers-to-start-your-day. What happened to the good old days, instead of all this boring political crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 2 hours ago, Buce said: The stark evidence of racial bias in Britain: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/02/revealed-the-stark-evidence-of-everyday-racial-bias-in-britain The Guardian is as bad as the Daily Mail for playing racial politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 (edited) Will this thread be a disguise for political-related news/discussion?.. Edited 3 December 2018 by Wymeswold fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leicsmac Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 In before the lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 3 December 2018 Author Share Posted 3 December 2018 19 minutes ago, leicsmac said: In before the lock. I see no reason why it should be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 9 minutes ago, Buce said: I see no reason why it should be locked. We'll see, but I'm not sure that the polarisation that caused the other thread to get locked isn't going to display itself on here, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 A Day in the Life The Beatles "Dub the mic on the piano quite low this Just keeping it like maracas, you know You know those old pianos" "Ok, we're on" "Sugarplum fairy, sugarplum fairy" I read the news today, oh boy About a lucky man who made the grade And though the news was rather sad Well, I just had to laugh I saw the photograph He blew his mind out in a car He didn't notice that the lights had changed A crowd of people stood and stared They'd seen his face before Nobody was really sure if he was from the House of Lords I saw a film today, oh boy The English Army had just won the war A crowd of people turned away But I just had to look Having read the book I'd love to turn you on "Five, six, seven, eight, nine Ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen Twenty" Woke up, fell out of bed Dragged a comb across my head Found my way downstairs and drank a cup And looking up I noticed I was late Found my coat and grabbed my hat Made the bus in seconds flat Made my way upstairs and had a smoke And everybody spoke and I went into a dream "Oh shit" I read the news today, oh boy Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire And though the holes were rather small They had to count them all Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall I'd love to turn you "See the worst thing about doing this Doing something like this Is I think that at first people sort of are a bit suspicious 'You know, come on, what are you up to?' Songwriters: John Lennon / Paul McCartney A Day in the Life lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 53 minutes ago, leicsmac said: We'll see, but I'm not sure that the polarisation that caused the other thread to get locked isn't going to display itself on here, too. Yes, very important that everyone agrees with everyone else these days or people could get offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 11 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said: Yes, very important that everyone agrees with everyone else these days or people could get offended Don't get me wrong, I enjoy debate and having to defend your position as essential to good thought (and I've said so on here before) but I can also see why the other thread got nixed and while I'd like a thread to discuss political UK stuff it does need pretty careful attention so it doesn't become toxic and circular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lifted*fox Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 3 hours ago, leicsmac said: We'll see, but I'm not sure that the polarisation that caused the other thread to get locked isn't going to display itself on here, too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 This is an interesting read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46356725 I'm working with an Iranian at the moment and he's quite open about how many people despise the regime. It's a fascinating country I'd love to visit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 3 December 2018 Author Share Posted 3 December 2018 7 minutes ago, bovril said: This is an interesting read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46356725 I'm working with an Iranian at the moment and he's quite open about how many people despise the regime. It's a fascinating country I'd love to visit. I've often thought of how cool it would be to travel the route taken by Alexander the Great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 David Attenborough (one of our own) really is a phenomenal man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 Bercow’s looking a bit Worzel Gummidge on the news tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 15 minutes ago, Buce said: I've often thought of how cool it would be to travel the route taken by Alexander the Great. I've travelled to where he ended up,any times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 3 December 2018 Share Posted 3 December 2018 Please can we lock this thread, Puel Out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 4 December 2018 Share Posted 4 December 2018 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-uk-can-unilaterally-revoke-article-50-and-reverse-brexit-eu-court-rules-a4007436.html "The UK can halt Brexit by unilaterally revoking Article 50, a senior EU law officer has said. An advocate general from the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has published his legal opinion on the case, brought by a cross-party group of Scottish politicians, ahead of a judgment by the court at a later date". Insofar as I understand the system, an Advocate-General (the senior law officer mentioned) issues a report recommending a verdict. The European Court then gives a verdict, usually agreeing with the report, but sometimes disregarding it. So, basically, this means that it it likely - but not yet certain - that the UK could unilaterally decide to revoke Article 50 without the EU contesting this or imposing conditions for the revocation. Politically, it could probably only happen if a 2nd referendum voted for it or if a govt took power with a mandate for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2018 Share Posted 4 December 2018 35 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-uk-can-unilaterally-revoke-article-50-and-reverse-brexit-eu-court-rules-a4007436.html "The UK can halt Brexit by unilaterally revoking Article 50, a senior EU law officer has said. An advocate general from the European Court of Justice (ECJ) has published his legal opinion on the case, brought by a cross-party group of Scottish politicians, ahead of a judgment by the court at a later date". Insofar as I understand the system, an Advocate-General (the senior law officer mentioned) issues a report recommending a verdict. The European Court then gives a verdict, usually agreeing with the report, but sometimes disregarding it. So, basically, this means that it it likely - but not yet certain - that the UK could unilaterally decide to revoke Article 50 without the EU contesting this or imposing conditions for the revocation. Politically, it could probably only happen if a 2nd referendum voted for it or if a govt took power with a mandate for it. Have to wait for the full verdict of course but..... This makes is legally and more crucially, constitutionally, possible to remove May and revoke article 50, then reinvoke it again under a new leader and start the process again with two years to go - also giving us the time to prepare properly for no deal as well if that was necessary. Could all be done before the next election as well in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 4 December 2018 Author Share Posted 4 December 2018 2 minutes ago, MattP said: Have to wait for the full verdict of course but..... This makes is legally and more crucially, constitutionally, possible to remove May and revoke article 50, then reinvoke it again under a new leader and start the process again with two years to go - also giving us the time to prepare properly for no deal as well if that was necessary. Could all be done before the next election as well in 2022. And you would expect the EU to cooperate after such duplicitous behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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