Conspiracy Theories

[peach0000]

Does anyone have any conspiracy theories that they genuinely believe. I was listening to the radio earlier with an interview with a flat earther and it got me thinking about all the different theories out there. I'd love to find a theory that I could get behind, I find the idea fascinating. 

[Jattdogg]

Donald Trump is a robot like 2 weeks lady in total recall

 

 

 

[urban.spaceman]

23 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

Does anyone have any conspiracy theories that they genuinely believe. I was listening to the radio earlier with an interview with a flat earther and it got me thinking about all the different theories out there. I'd love to find a theory that I could get behind, I find the idea fascinating. 

I have a theory that the only reason Brexit and Trump happened is because a Leicester City fan sold his soul to Satan just so he could see us win the Premier League, and Satan wanted some crazy weird shit to happen so it would put 2016 in context for years to come.

 

Thinking of turning it into a film.  

[leicsmac]

I've stuck these in previous conspiracy related threads but I'll repeat them here:

 

Fossil fuel companies have bought up the tech patents to various renewable energy techs and suppressed them in order to extract the maximum amount of money from oil and gas resources before at some point (just in time, most likely) coming swooping in to "save the world" with the new tech that they can then use to maintain dominance of the energy market. Path of maximum possible profit.

 

There are certain powerful people so vested in control over other people that they're willing to let the world suffer the effects of climate change and the like resulting in countless deaths simply because they think they will be king of the ashes afterwards. They're wrong, but that doesn't stop them believing it.

[Vacamion]

 

The Russkies not only have an asset in the White House, over whom they have kompromat, and a network of US politicians who they also have dirt on, but they also directed and paid for the stuff which tipped the balance to make Brexit happen, in order to achieve a weakened USA, collapsing NATO and Europe in chaos, which are all in their interests. 

 

It's all connected via Cambridge Analytica, Farage's association with prominent Republicans and Russkies, that Aussie Albino Perv living in a broom cupboard at the Ecuadorian Embassy and the dubious source of Banks's funding of Vote Leave. 

 

I read too much Carole Cadwalladr on Twitter.  

[leicsmac]

17 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

The Russkies not only have an asset in the White House, over whom they have kompromat, and a network of US politicians who they also have dirt on, but they also directed and paid for the stuff which tipped the balance to make Brexit happen, in order to achieve a weakened USA, collapsing NATO and Europe in chaos, which are all in their interests. 

 

It's all connected via Cambridge Analytica, Farage's association with prominent Republicans and Russkies, that Aussie Albino Perv living in a broom cupboard at the Ecuadorian Embassy and the dubious source of Banks's funding of Vote Leave. 

 

I read too much Carole Cadwalladr on Twitter.  

Hmmm...I can see it, but what I'm not getting is the endgame.

 

Does Putin want to roll the tanks across Europe Cold War-style, or is all this merely so he'll be left alone to keep an iron fist on his own people and those of Ukraine?

[Vacamion]

51 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Hmmm...I can see it, but what I'm not getting is the endgame.

 

Does Putin want to roll the tanks across Europe Cold War-style, or is all this merely so he'll be left alone to keep an iron fist on his own people and those of Ukraine?

I like it.  You are engaging with a conspiracy loon. 

 

More of the latter, I think.  He gets more of a free hand in E Europe. 

 

And meanwhile some of his plants in USA, UK and EU get to play to Russian interests on, eg Energy policy. 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Vacamion said:

I like it.  You are engaging with a conspiracy loon. 

 

More of the latter, I think.  He gets more of a free hand in E Europe. 

 

And meanwhile some of his plants in USA, UK and EU get to play to Russian interests on, eg Energy policy. 

Well I have my own conspiracy interests, as per above

 

To be quite honest, a good conspiracy is always based around people who want power (or people who have it and want more) and there's definitely a few of those about.

[Fox92]

I have an interest in conspiracy theories. 9/11 is my main one, there's a lot there that doesn't add up. 

[ozleicester]

http://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true

[Nalis]

Religion is an invention  to give the masses blind hope/faith in order to stop them overthrowing the system. People bought into it at the time due to lack of access to information.

 

Equally, Christmas was an invention to give people something to look forward to in the winter as opposed to just living in cold darkness for a good few months of the year.

[yorkie1999]

The obvious one is that man didn't land on the moon and that stanley kubrick created a film of it. There does seem to be an awful lot of evidence to say it was a giant hoax with the only real evidence to say we did being some grainy film footage. Still, the yanks have done rather well out of it at least.

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

The obvious one is that man didn't land on the moon and that stanley kubrick created a film of it. There does seem to be an awful lot of evidence to say it was a giant hoax with the only real evidence to say we did being some grainy film footage. Still, the yanks have done rather well out of it at least.

Yup, it was filmed and directed by Stanley Kubrick himself.

 

Thing is he's such a damn perfectionist he insisted it be filmed on location.

[Sampson]

Team Sky/most British cyclists all doping is a conspiracy theory I think is likely true.

 

In fact I've always thought the overwhelming majority of professional sportspeople are probably doping and it's been widely suppressed for decades if not centuries.

[yorkie1999]

12 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Yup, it was filmed and directed by Stanley Kubrick himself.

 

Thing is he's such a damn perfectionist he insisted it be filmed on location.

Oh right, he told you that did he?

[The Syrup]

Alex Jones on the Joe Rogan podcast this week... conspiracy theories overload.

 

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Oh right, he told you that did he?

 

Nah, he just strikes me as the type who would actually insist on going all the way to the Moon to film the landings for the sake of authenticity.

[EnderbyFox]

2 minutes ago, The Syrup said:

Alex Jones on the Joe Rogan podcast this week... conspiracy theories overload.

 

 

 

Speaking of Alex Jones...

 

 

 

[Wymsey]

@Zingari

@ElEmpty

[SpacedX]

3 hours ago, ozleicester said:

http://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true

So because a government has lied or there has been a cover up, it follows that any arbitrary conspiracy theory of one's choice or devising must be true? Because of Operation Northwoods, any terrorist atrocity of your choice is therefore a false flag? A syllogistic logical fallacy, 

 

1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

The obvious one is that man didn't land on the moon and that stanley kubrick created a film of it. There does seem to be an awful lot of evidence to say it was a giant hoax 

There is no "evidence" to suggest that Apollo was faked whatsoever. Moon hoax conspiracy theories are predicated upon bad science, quote mining, confirmation bias, assumption, misappropriated factoid and sheer deception. However, do feel free to present it. 

 

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

 with the only real evidence to say we did being some grainy film footage. 

You sure about that?

[ozleicester]

1 minute ago, Line-X said:

So because a government has lied or there has been a cover up, it follows that any arbitrary conspiracy theory of one's choice or devising must be true? Because of Operation Northwoods, any terrorist atrocity of your choice is therefore a false flag? A syllogistic logical fallacy, 

 

See, now all i did was post a link to some "conspiracy theories" that were found to be true.

 

There are a bazillion theories i dont believe... but it is incumbent on any thinking person to listen, question and think.

 

Broadbrush panicked denial is good only for those that would cover up.

[Guest seanfox778]

I like reading about Nikola Tesla and his experiments, it seemed like he did some pretty crazy things with electricity before the bankers funding him cut him off and kept all of his stuff. I think the grandfather or great grandfather of Trump was said to be involved with those bankers. 

[SpacedX]

12 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

See, now all i did was post a link to some "conspiracy theories" that were found to be true.

 

Which you posted on the other conspiracy thread. What's your point? 

 

13 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

There are a bazillion theories i dont believe... but it is incumbent on any thinking person to listen, question and think.

 

And those that subscribe or are susceptible to the lucrative industry of online conspiracy theory are almost invariably incapable of any of this. Precisely why they are the target audience of the perpetrators. 

 

15 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Broadbrush panicked denial is good only for those that would cover up.

Nothing to do with denial. The burden of proof is incumbent upon those making the claim. If there is sufficient evidence as opposed to supposition I am all ears. 

[peach0000]

4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I have an interest in conspiracy theories. 9/11 is my main one, there's a lot there that doesn't add up. 

9/11 ones are always really difficult to disprove but at the same time really hard to prove. I certainly believe it's something that the US could have self inflicted to further the interests of a power hungry president. 

 

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

The obvious one is that man didn't land on the moon and that stanley kubrick created a film of it. There does seem to be an awful lot of evidence to say it was a giant hoax with the only real evidence to say we did being some grainy film footage. Still, the yanks have done rather well out of it at least.

The biggest thing for me that would suggest it to be a hoax would be it being faked just to one up the soviets. However the soviets tracked them to the moon and even congratulated the US on their achievement, I don't believe the Soviets would have done this had it been a hoax. 

[ozleicester]

2 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Which you posted on the other conspiracy thread. What's your point? 

Please advise how many topics im allowed to post in.

 

2 minutes ago, Line-X said:

 

And those that subscribe or are susceptible to the lucrative industry of online conspiracy theory are almost invariably incapable of any of this. Precisely why they are the target audience of the perpetrators. 

I would suggest that discussion of theories is part of the requirement to stop them becoming overblown.

 

2 minutes ago, Line-X said:

 

Nothing to do with denial. The burden of proof is incumbent upon those making the claim. If there is sufficient evidence as opposed to supposition I am all ears. 

i "proved" the theories above.. and you whined about it.

 

so effectively you want proof, but dont want anyone to talk about theories?