Flooding

[Free Falling Foxes]

4 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This is squarely on the water companies and town planners allowing poor drainage systems to fester

I was chatting to a guy who lived in LFE. After they built a handfull of houses nearby, he started to get pools of water gathering beneath his floor boards downstairs and, not surprisingly, damp.

The cause was traced to a drainage pipe that the builders of those new houses had decided to block off!

I think with the current governments relaxation of the planning laws, incidents like this will become far more frequent.

[adam1]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Bringing this back to the fore.

Its a combination of that and new builds meaning the water runs off to already over saturated land.

 

 

[leicsmac]

41 minutes ago, adam1 said:

Its a combination of that and new builds meaning the water runs off to already over saturated land.

 

 

Pretty much, yes. Poor infrastructure planning for new builds, lack of long term thought, and not accounting for changes in weather habits that have been patently obvious to predict for a long time.

[Raj]

We have had an influx of new houses in Thurnby and Bushby and the drains just cant cope.

Its okay building new houses which we need, but update the feckinh infrastructure  first

[Vowels]

7 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Don't really know what Flood re is. are they aren't an insurer of last resort? As in when you cannot get a policy from anyone else in the market

You can think of it that way,  yes.

 

Technically its a reinsurance product, backed ultimately by the UK Gov, but no doubt actually in reality by the traditional reinsurance market but possibly guaranteed by the Gov.

 

It is not ideal since:

 

a) Your insurer needs to be a member of Flood Re (its elective)

b) Its only available for consumers; not for commercial clients

 

Its also, (in my view) effectively given the Gov the ability to continue to ignore the 'building on traditional flooded areas/soakaways' and crack on.

 

Not really something I ever got involved in as I only ever dealt with commercial, but I think what I've said is right. Someone who actually really knows about consumer insurance may be able to tell you more, but I'd warn them against doing so as they'll be inboxed by everyone on here asking for cheap pet/motor/household/travel insurance. Etc.

 

Peace.

 

Vowels.

[Barrowblue]

9 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Fvck knows how I've managed to make it into Barrow today. Not rating my chances of getting out later. 

We actually use the floods as defence to keep the riff-raff out. It doesn't always work, sadly. 

[Tommy G]

46 minutes ago, Raj said:

We have had an influx of new houses in Thurnby and Bushby and the drains just cant cope.

Its okay building new houses which we need, but update the feckinh infrastructure  first

It will only get worse under the new housing plans 

[leicsmac]

The UK could stop building houses everywhere tomorrow, and it wouldn't stop, or barely even slow, the increasing damage that these events will continue to cause now and in the future.

[Footballwipe]

17 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

The UK could stop building houses everywhere tomorrow, and it wouldn't stop, or barely even slow, the increasing damage that these events will continue to cause now and in the future.

And every single drain could be clear and clean as a whistle.

 

But it's too easy to ignore rainfall levels that keep on breaking records, it's too easy to just finger point and blame someone, cos that's easier than facing the inconvenient truth.

 

I saw a comment on FB earlier "It's always rained!!!" Yes it has, but not to these levels, not to this consistent, persistent level that means nothing gets a proper respite.

 

I don't know if people are unwilling to adapt or just ignorant. Maybe it's a bit of both.

[leicsmac]

18 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

And every single drain could be clear and clean as a whistle.

 

But it's too easy to ignore rainfall levels that keep on breaking records, it's too easy to just finger point and blame someone, cos that's easier than facing the inconvenient truth.

 

I saw a comment on FB earlier "It's always rained!!!" Yes it has, but not to these levels, not to this consistent, persistent level that means nothing gets a proper respite.

 

I don't know if people are unwilling to adapt or just ignorant. Maybe it's a bit of both.

It is a bit of both.

 

And the laws of physics tend not to entertain either for very long. Which is frustrating, seeing as a species we are aware of this and could do enough about it.

 

NB. TBH if people's tunnel vision on the matter just endangered themselves, then it would be fair enough - personal responsibility/freedom and all that. But it doesn't just endanger themselves.

Edited 6 January by leicsmac

[Vowels]

I know its not the main reason, but have you ever really looked in drains (I doubt it - why would you?)

 

Seems to me they don't get cleared much and are often absolutely filled with silt, grit from road gritting, leaves, rubbish etc etc.

 

 

[Blue-fox]

Barrow will be fun getting out tomorrow now the bridge is closed 😂

[Lionator]

Severe red alert for Barrow if anyone lives there. Stay safe.

[Blue-fox]

Just now, Lionator said:

Severe red alert for Barrow if anyone lives there. Stay safe.

It’s for the bridge area when you come in from A6 I believe 

[JonnyBoy]

I live in barrow so will be WFH tomorrow then, I think proctors site is flooding (or flooded) hence why bridge is closed. Often happens hours after other places as water seems to flow there. 
 

if you live in mountsorrel, Sileby etc will be chaos tomorrow morning 

[Barrowblue]

2 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

I live in barrow so will be WFH tomorrow then, I think proctors site is flooding (or flooded) hence why bridge is closed. Often happens hours after other places as water seems to flow there. 
 

if you live in mountsorrel, Sileby etc will be chaos tomorrow morning 

Seagrave is the way out

[JonnyBoy]

4 minutes ago, Barrowblue said:

Seagrave is the way out

but then you have to face the death junction on the a46 not ideal 

[Barrowblue]

4 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

but then you have to face the death junction on the a46 not ideal 

Assuming the sixhills a46 bridge isn't flooded, you could go up there & get on to the a46. 

 

The 'death junction' actually isn't as bad as it seems since its redesign. 

[FoxesTez]

16 minutes ago, Barrowblue said:

Seagrave is the way out

Don’t get too close, might do your ACL. 

[JonnyBoy]

11 minutes ago, Barrowblue said:

Assuming the sixhills a46 bridge isn't flooded, you could go up there & get on to the a46. 

 

The 'death junction' actually isn't as bad as it seems since its redesign. 

Ok nice one. My neighbour is helping out down at proctors and said they are evacuating people, seems quite bad! 
 

red alert danger to life on .gov website

[Voll Blau]

2 hours ago, Barrowblue said:

We actually use the floods as defence to keep the riff-raff out. It doesn't always work, sadly. 

Like I say, I made it in. Better luck tomorrow. 

[Blue-fox]

18 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

Ok nice one. My neighbour is helping out down at proctors and said they are evacuating people, seems quite bad! 
 

red alert danger to life on .gov website

How bad is it down there?

[Stadt]

The mobile alert for the Barrow flooding was awful.

[Blue-fox]

Just now, Stadt said:

The mobile alert for the Barrow flooding was awful.

Just had the emergency alert come on our phones to go to the Methodist hall 

[Barrowblue]

16 minutes ago, Blue-fox said:

How bad is it down there?

We've just had the mobile emergency alert saying the emergency services are evacuation the caravan park & the where the refuge center is.