Worst ever manager

[Clogger_]

Taylor was a clown fwiw, not trying to blow smoke up his backside

 

(For further evidence on Taylor's quality, look at his career after us. He left the same impression on every club he worked at. And as for the creepy way he dragged Junior Lewis around everywhere with him, like some f*****g cuddly toy)

Edited 14 February by Clogger_

[Fox92]

7 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

We did sh1t in Europe under Rodgers, for the record. Embarrassingly so.

 

Edited to ask what you think of Brendan's impact on our current plight...

Not doubting Rodgers influence on our relegation but we got promoted straight back. Maresca walking out straight away has had a big impact on this current plight too as we wouldn’t have signed the players we did under Cooper (Ayew, Skipp etc).

Edited 14 February by Fox92

[Clogger_]

3 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Not doubting Rodgers influence on our relegation but we got promoted straight back. Maresca walking out straight away has had a big impact on his current plight too as we wouldn’t have signed the players we did.

Yes... but not sure what point you're making. A good manager leaving will never help. Enzo can't be blamed for the Cooper fiasco!!!

[Fox92]

2 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Yes... but not sure what point you're making. A good manager leaving will never help. Enzo can't be blamed for the Cooper fiasco!!!

Not saying he is to be blamed but my point is we were relegated but bounced straight back. We didn’t languish like we are doing now. We had the chance to rebuild, upon promotion, but didn’t! Maresca walking out and Cooper appointed had a massive impact on where we are now because of some of the players signed in that period, including a contract extension for Vestergaard.

Edited 14 February by Fox92

[Soar Fox]

14 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

We did sh1t in Europe under Rodgers, for the record. Embarrassingly so.

 

Edited to say that we fluked the FA cup. Easy draws, second best in the final. Weird COVID year. Not taking away from it and love the memory to this day, but if we're honest with ourselves...

 

Edited to ask what you think of Brendan's impact on our current plight...

We didn’t fluke the Fa Cup, we beat 4 premier league teams and a Brentford team that went onto to get promoted that season. Saying we fluked it is like when people try and downplay our title win by saying all the big teams were rubbish that year. 

Not much to be honest, I’ve said before he should have been sacked after the Tottenham hammering. He was probably promised funds to spend in the summer which he didn’t get (the club have been known to lie to managers about money being available to spend) and he lost his captain, best GK and biggest leader in the changing rooms 4 days before the start of the season. 

The club is an absolute mess and has been for years it’s just unfortunate for him he was the manager at the time when the decline was starting to set in. It’s not like the club has got any better since he left, but instead of people putting the blame on the manager (like they did Rodgers) they now know it’s the people running the club that are the problem. 

[Dan]

4 hours ago, HP1 said:

Rodgers tenure can be divided in to 2 (pre FA Cup and post). His signings in summer '21 absolutely destroyed us. How can you pursue a player like Vestergaard (for years by the way), sign him for £15 million, and then after looking at him in training and a couple of games ultimately decide that actually he doesn't want him or rate him.

 

That summer we spent £60 million on dross that would barely be good enough to get in the squad, let alone the team and put them on bumper contracts.

And a lot of that squad are either still here, or only recently left, despite offering basically nothing.

 

Rudkin and Aiyawatt are bigger problems, but as a manager Rodgers was absolutely catastrophic for us in the long run.

[CornwallFox]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

And a lot of that squad are either still here, or only recently left, despite offering basically nothing.

 

Rudkin and Aiyawatt are bigger problems, but as a manager Rodgers was absolutely catastrophic for us in the long run.

Rodgers wanted out in the last year after rudkin and co failed to use the position Rodgers had us in as a springboard to rejig the squad. 

Rodgers is very culpable for his behaviour and outlook that year but the years before were wonderful, let's not kid ourselves. 

The fact he wasn't sacked sooner and we were left with dross was the fault of those remaining at the club.

[Parafox]

34 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Not saying he is to be blamed but my point is we were relegated but bounced straight back. We didn’t languish like we are doing now. We had the chance to rebuild, upon promotion, but didn’t! Maresca walking out and Cooper appointed had a massive impact on where we are now because of some of the players signed in that period, including a contract extension for Vestergaard.

Cooper is an idiot in terms of  football management.

 

He's also a very poor Chris Martin lookalike. He'll never get a Coldplay tribute gig although I think he might need it in the future. 

Edited 14 February by Parafox

[fox_favourite]

Im starting to think Rodgers is the worst as he was the one who started this mess. 

[Parafox]

2 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

Im starting to think Rodgers is the worst as he was the one who started this mess. 

He deserves absolute pelters from us. 

 

He had no loyalty to anything but himself as has been shown by his tenure at Liverpool and Celtic (twice).

 

He's a nasty, self centred leech. A person worthy of the utmost disrespect from any knowledgeable football fan.

 

I know what he achieved with us but his petulance when he couldn't get what he wanted (money) from us he ditched and deliberately undermined us. Who else would continue to play Danny Ward every game when it was clear he was the biggest liability?

 

I hate the man.

 

 If I ever see him in Fosse Park I'm gonna clock him one. He'll go into M&S with a bloody nose.

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

Im starting to think Rodgers is the worst as he was the one who started this mess. 

If the owner is the issue, which we all agree, he is the one that has ruined our club, then how can Rodgers be the one who started this mess? “It doesn’t matter who the manager is”, remember. 
 

Pretty much everyone was saying Rodgers should have been sacked. The owner did not action this until it was too late. And then had no idea who to appoint so went with Dean Smith. 
 

We are in this mess because of the owner. He started it.

[Dan]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

Rodgers wanted out in the last year after rudkin and co failed to use the position Rodgers had us in as a springboard to rejig the squad. 

Rodgers is very culpable for his behaviour and outlook that year but the years before were wonderful, let's not kid ourselves. 

The fact he wasn't sacked sooner and we were left with dross was the fault of those remaining at the club.

The whole thing was extraordinary and the fact our board couldn't see he was trying to get the sack revealed everything about them - although if you look at their antics in the last 12 months in particular, it isn't surprising. They are as incompetent as you can get. Genuine 0/10.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Can someone add Andy King to the list?

 

His record must be amongst the worst (though I'm not particularly blaming him. If someone can come in and keep this team up on goal difference, he'll be a hero.)

[David Hankey]

Rodgers did at least bring us the elusive FA Cup something no-one else has achieved in our illustrious history.

[Great Boos Up]

It’s Holloway. Gobsmaked you don’t think so. Div1 was an absolute utter disgrace for a club our size. 

[CornwallFox]

2 minutes ago, Great Boos Up said:

It’s Holloway. Gobsmaked you don’t think so. Div1 was an absolute utter disgrace for a club our size. 

It's hard to blame just him given we had about 4 managers that season

[cropstonfox]

2 hours ago, Soar Fox said:

We didn’t fluke the Fa Cup, we beat 4 premier league teams and a Brentford team that went onto to get promoted that season. Saying we fluked it is like when people try and downplay our title win by saying all the big teams were rubbish that year. 

Not much to be honest, I’ve said before he should have been sacked after the Tottenham hammering. He was probably promised funds to spend in the summer which he didn’t get (the club have been known to lie to managers about money being available to spend) and he lost his captain, best GK and biggest leader in the changing rooms 4 days before the start of the season. 

The club is an absolute mess and has been for years it’s just unfortunate for him he was the manager at the time when the decline was starting to set in. It’s not like the club has got any better since he left, but instead of people putting the blame on the manager (like they did Rodgers) they now know it’s the people running the club that are the problem. 

Yes the people running the club are to blame for persisting with Rodgers, and allowing him to make terrible signings and

Sabotage  the team.

[Fox92]

2 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

It's hard to blame just him given we had about 4 managers that season

He was manager and our squad was decent, it should not have been relegated.

 

He led us to our lowest point ever. 
 

And Mandaric over saw all that too.

Edited 14 February by Fox92

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Not doubting Rodgers influence on our relegation but we got promoted straight back. Maresca walking out straight away has had a big impact on this current plight too as we wouldn’t have signed the players we did under Cooper (Ayew, Skipp etc).

We wouldn't have signed them but he wanted Sensi who would have been a disaster when you see what he went on to do. 

 

We'd have been trying to play that style relentlessly and obviously unsuccessfully so I see no other outcome other than relegation under Enzo too. Different signings, but I don't envisage a scenario where we'd have gone down with players better equipped for the championship. 

[Great Boos Up]

6 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

It's hard to blame just him given we had about 4 managers that season

I stood at Soke away and still can’t forgive him😄 however our boys put more effort that day than I’ve seen in years. 

[Gamble92]

36 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

If the owner is the issue, which we all agree, he is the one that has ruined our club, then how can Rodgers be the one who started this mess? “It doesn’t matter who the manager is”, remember. 
 

Pretty much everyone was saying Rodgers should have been sacked. The owner did not action this until it was too late. And then had no idea who to appoint so went with Dean Smith. 
 

We are in this mess because of the owner. He started it.

Rodgers can definitely take huge accountability for this. 

 

I think a big part of him coming here, alongside realising we were easily one of the best squads with the best budgets (as much as he'd not tell you that), he also realised how amateur Top and Rudkin are. He knew he could have them both in awe of him because they are so far out their depth.

 

As horrendous as most signings were under Rodgers (a trend he's kept at Celtic who want to all sack their board), we still had chance after chance to remove him and save ourselves from everything that followed.

 

Yet we had a man in charge who put himself before everything. He would rather make one substitution and tell everyone the players were tired. He would rather come on post match interviews and say he's not been backed despite having the biggest spend of any manager in our history. He would rather make sure everyone knew he wasn't to blame. He would rather play Danny Ward for 30 games.

 

Everything's that's followed is because of that season and he was at the centre of so many of the decisions that have led us here. 

 

That's why he will go down as one of the most destructive managers we have ever had. Forget the nice football and FA Cup. 

[Ted Maul]

It's still Taylor. Took a club ready to challenge for Europe in the league to the brink of extinction. Comically out of his depth.

 

On Rodgers- has anyone else got a case to be a club's best and worst manager in their history, within the same spell? 

 

 

[Soar Fox]

5 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

Yes the people running the club are to blame for persisting with Rodgers, and allowing him to make terrible signings and

Sabotage  the team.

They have turned out to be terrible signings no doubt about that. But if you look back especially on this forum 99% of people were ecstatic at the signings of Daka & Soumare. Bertrand people were happy as he seemed like a sensible bit of business experienced player on a feee transfer. Vestergaard was the only one that people were questioning and even that was more of a panic buy after Fofana’s injury. 

[Gamble92]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Not doubting Rodgers influence on our relegation but we got promoted straight back. Maresca walking out straight away has had a big impact on this current plight too as we wouldn’t have signed the players we did under Cooper (Ayew, Skipp etc).

Also getting promoted straight back isn't really a reprieve is it? 

 

We sold Barnes, Maddison etc and lost Tielemans and Evans. Then soon as we come back up we had to sell KDH. 

 

As much as we ****ed up in who we brought in, the damage was already done. You can't replace all of that. We lost our best chance of sustaining ourselves at that level long before, but relegation was preventable for any decently run club.

 

Id go as far as to say that one relegation means we could never get back to where we were in most of our lifetimes. 

Edited 14 February by Gamble92

[Sly]

If Rodgers had been dismissed earlier and we’d avoided relegation, he’d be looked at in a different light.

 

He had the nucleus of a very good team still. 
 

No idea why he didn’t use Soyuncu or Vestergaard, then persisted in playing Ward and Amartey. As bad as we were, that team still could have stayed up. 
 

However the acquisitions under Coopers reign have crippled this club. Ayew, Reid, Skipp would never have been here under Maresca. 

The question remains, who sanctioned any of those signings? Was it the manager at the time, Glover, Rudkin or Aiywatt? All in all, none of them are as bad as Taylor.