Foxdiamond Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 3 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Truss will be the next PM, she will get the membership vote by far. Which is great news for Labour voters come the GE, because she is thick as pig shit. Makes you wonder what goes on in the mind of Tory members 2
st albans fox Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 6 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Makes you wonder what goes on in the mind of Tory members You mean the electorate that voted for Hague, Duncan-smith and Howard ??? 1
Parafox Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 (edited) "We're producing more varieties of cheese than the French"... "We import 2/3rds of our cheese"... Edited 20 July 2022 by Parafox
urban.spaceman Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 4 minutes ago, Parafox said: Any politician who's appeared on HIGNFY should never be a PM.
Foxdiamond Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 9 minutes ago, st albans fox said: You mean the electorate that voted for Hague, Duncan-smith and Howard ??? Even those 3 were better than Truss but I take your point
bovril Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Are we convinced Truss even gets to a GE? Not sure her promotion to leader will end the in-fighting, will probably make it worse. 2
Lionator Posted 20 July 2022 Author Posted 20 July 2022 Didn’t think I’d ever be writing this but if we want a remotely functional country for the next two years then Sunak has to win. Obviously as a Labour supporter, it feels nailed on they will win in 2024 but the damage Truss could commit in the mean time could genuinely be cataclysmic. 1
bovril Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 23 minutes ago, Lionator said: Didn’t think I’d ever be writing this but if we want a remotely functional country for the next two years then Sunak has to win. Obviously as a Labour supporter, it feels nailed on they will win in 2024 but the damage Truss could commit in the mean time could genuinely be cataclysmic. Don't think it's nailed on. There could be a relatively decent recovery over the next two years and we've already seen that stuff gets forgotten about quickly. Tbf I have no idea what's going to happen over the next two years. Britain now arguably the most unstable country in W Europe.
bovril Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 would love to hear from some of the true believers on here like Jeff and laughing emoji guy 3
String fellow Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said: Makes you wonder what goes on in the mind of Tory members What about the minds of Labour members, who with the backing of the unions, CND and the Communist Party put Jeremy Corbyn in charge of Labour, when Andy Burnham was one of the other hopefuls? Just as Labour supporters might now be relishing the prospect of Liz Truss as a guaranteed GE loser, so too were Conservatives when Corbyn won the Labour leadership contest. It seems to me that party members of whatever political persuasion should always choose the most electable candidate, not necessarily the one closest to the own political ideals. In Sir Keir Starmer, Labour now have someone who many Conservatives will see as far more electable than Corbyn ever was, even if his version of socialism doesn't suit the hard left (nor his knighthood).
Zear0 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Granted some shenanigans were going on, but the votes weren't miles off 1/3 each. Not exactly confidence in having a united party is it?
Foxdiamond Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 4 minutes ago, String fellow said: What about the minds of Labour members, who with the backing of the unions, CND and the Communist Party put Jeremy Corbyn in charge of Labour, when Andy Burnham was one of the other hopefuls? Just as Labour supporters might now be relishing the prospect of Liz Truss as a guaranteed GE loser, so too were Conservatives when Corbyn won the Labour leadership contest. It seems to me that party members of whatever political persuasion should always choose the most electable candidate, not necessarily the one closest to the own political ideals. In Sir Keir Starmer, Labour now have someone who many Conservatives will see as far more electable than Corbyn ever was, even if his version of socialism doesn't suit the hard left (nor his knighthood). In a previous post I did say two of Labour's biggest own goals was choosing Michael Foot and Corbyn as leaders. What I can’t fathom is what Truss offers. Sunak does at least gives the impression he is competent even if I don't agree with him. 1
Popular Post grth2004 Posted 20 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 July 2022 What ever your views on Brexit surely everyone must agree this has been the aftermath of that vote. If I had a time machine I’d take Cameron forward in time to now and convince him to have a vote on something else. 12
Popular Post Bellend Sebastian Posted 20 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 July 2022 Apparently Penny Mordaunt 'lives alone' and the thought of her going home to an empty house after today's disappointment is tearing me apart. If you're reading this, Penny - and I think there's a very good chance you are - I thought I should let you know that it doesn't have to be this way 10
Alf Bentley Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 25 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: Apparently Penny Mordaunt 'lives alone' and the thought of her going home to an empty house after today's disappointment is tearing me apart. If you're reading this, Penny - and I think there's a very good chance you are - I thought I should let you know that it doesn't have to be this way I'd watch out. When I expressed similarly disinterested sentiments of kindness towards Penny a couple of years ago, @Finnegan gave me a right lambasting. I think @bovril got involved in the chastisement, too. Thankfully, after today, there's no chance of me being in the embarrassing situation of harbouring a secret crush for the PM - not unless Rishi grows on me in a very unexpected way. 4
Alf Bentley Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 2 hours ago, bovril said: Are we convinced Truss even gets to a GE? Not sure her promotion to leader will end the in-fighting, will probably make it worse. That occurred to me - particularly after hearing Johnson's "mission largely accomplished - for now" and "hasta la vista" comments. If the economy/society is as turbulent as looks likely over the next year or more, there is infighting and Truss (if she wins) is as disastrous a PM as I expect, could Johnson engineer a comeback? In normal times it would seem impossible that the Tories would change leader yet again - and that someone as discredited as BJ could come back. But these aren't normal times - and if they were staring at likely defeat in 2024? As you say in your other post, the British electorate forgets stuff pretty quickly. Already, Johnson is able to boast of his Covid management as a great success without getting laughed out of the house (and he's not only referring to vaccines). 1
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Please don't tell me a man who had to stand on a Yellow Pages to kiss the bride at his own wedding is going to be governing our once proud nation 2
String fellow Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 16 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: Please don't tell me a man who had to stand on a Yellow Pages to kiss the bride at his own wedding is going to be governing our once proud nation Is heightism a new -ism that we've all got to think about now? Tbh, as someone who isn't particularly tall myself, I say three cheers for us shorties! https://www.ranker.com/list/shortest-world-leaders-from-history/katia-kleyman
st albans fox Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Aren’t you supposed to ‘hit the ground running’ as opposed to ‘hitting the ground’ which sounds like your parachute didn’t open …… 1 2
Arkie Bennett Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 10 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Aren’t you supposed to ‘hit the ground running’ as opposed to ‘hitting the ground’ which sounds like your parachute didn’t open …… If she intentionally tried to hit the ground she would miss.
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