Nations League 2022

[Jattdogg]

Boring to watch, shit chemistry, shit manager, players thay dont give a toss.

 

Honestly, at times i wonder if we would be better off not playing prem league players. Least we would put in a shift.

 

Southgate should go.

 

 

[Foxdiamond]

13 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Yeah and a lot of footballs passed in 12 months 

 

At least Southgate got us to a International Final. And now what? 

We are stuck with Southgate 

[Fear Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, STEVIE B said:

All l keep hearing is, ‘These games are coming at the end of a long hard season’…………and ‘England have a great chance at the WC as it won’t be at the end of a long hard season’. 
How are we so vastly different to any other major European country after their long hard seasons ? 

The 2026 World Cup will start on 8th June. We'd better stay at home then after "a long hard season". 

[SecretPro]

37 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

You’re the type of person that begs for a final ticket then gets angry at the asking price being £3k

 

My ticket for last years final was €80. Because I put the hard yards in watching the shite prior (even if I did go, check in, then leave)

I really wouldn't be arsed to try and get tickets to an England final (football at that level priced me out many moons ago). I literally don't care about international football, I feel no affiliation to the England team. Sure, I'll watch the World Cup and Euros because its a spectacle, there's a lot at stake, there is something for teams to genuinely get motivated for, I get to watch different teams and different players from different leagues and if England play well, it raises a smile, perhaps some very faint slither of pride, if we won I'd be delighted for the genuine fans of the England Football team, rather than delighted with the win. I'm just not that interested! 

[orangecity23]

19 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

The 2026 World Cup will start on 8th June. We'd better stay at home then after "a long hard season". 

It's the usual excuse making for England being shit. Just like the "it's too hot to play our usual game in these conditions" that's been wheeled out for years. Jemaine Jenas used that one last summer - when we were playing in England! We're not even naturally adapted to play in our country apparently, poor delicate lambs, it's not that they're just shit and putting in a low effort performanc, honest.

[tom27111]

England now have a generation of players that should be the envy of the world.

 

Seriously. 

 

I thought Ashley Cole, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes was as good as it would ever get.

 

The problem is the manager. 

 

This group is exceptionally talented, all over the pitch. 

 

You know what, I'm not even bothered he doesn't pick Maddison. I don't want any of our players near him.

 

But come on.

 

A man in the street can see that we've got players to play beautiful attacking football.

 

Southgate: I think we'll play 5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders 

[tom27111]

And I would love to hear from someone prepared to defend Southgate 

[HybridFox]

Just now, tom27111 said:

And I would love to hear from someone prepared to defend Southgate 

Mason Mount

[tom27111]

1 minute ago, TK95 said:

Mason Mount

If you'd have signed out and set up a new account with username Mase_Mount 

[tom27111]

BuT HeS tHe MoSt SuCcEsSfUl EnGlAnD mAnAGeR SiNcE 1966....

 

OK, what's he won? 

 

Seriously, what's he won?

[foxfanazer]

32 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

England now have a generation of players that should be the envy of the world.

 

Seriously. 

 

I thought Ashley Cole, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes was as good as it would ever get.

 

The problem is the manager. 

 

This group is exceptionally talented, all over the pitch. 

 

You know what, I'm not even bothered he doesn't pick Maddison. I don't want any of our players near him.

 

But come on.

 

A man in the street can see that we've got players to play beautiful attacking football.

 

Southgate: I think we'll play 5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders 

I think Southgate is a garbage manager but I don't agree with this statement either. I don't believe we have one world class player and I feel like I'd be hard pressed to pick any that will be in 5 years without a doubt. Foden under the tutelage of Pep maybe but other than that I think the majority are vastly overrated. Equally I might just be a miserable bastard

Edited 14 June 2022 by foxfanazer

[Dan LCFC]

2 hours ago, Milky said:

“Young team with energy” **** off 😂

There is no escape for us is there. ****ing hell man.

[tom27111]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

I think Southgate is a garbage manager but I don't agree with this statement either. I don't believe we have one world class player and I feel like I'd be hard pressed to pick any that will be in 5 years without a doubt. Foden under the tutelage of Pep maybe but other than that I think the majority are vastly overrated. Equally I might just be a miserable bustard

OK, you're probably right, but tell me another nation who wouldn't use Bellingham, Grealish, Foden, Kane and Saka to their advantage? 

 

Southgate would prefer to play his game around Harry Maguire and Kalvin Phillips 

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, tom27111 said:

OK, you're probably right, but tell me another nation who wouldn't use Bellingham, Grealish, Foden, Kane and Saka to their advantage? 

 

Southgate would prefer to play his game around Harry Maguire and Kalvin Phillips 

Oh yeah absolutely he should be doing a thousand times better with them. 

I wasn't aiming at you really anyway. I saw on post on Facebook saying that Southgate is wasting the 'greatest crop of players England have ever produced ' and it genuinely had me stunned that anybody can believe that to be true. Gazza would still walk into this side now and he's been on the sauce for the last 30 years

[tom27111]

Just now, foxfanazer said:

Oh yeah absolutely he should be doing a thousand times better with them. 

I wasn't aiming at you really anyway. I saw on post on Facebook saying that Southgate is wasting the 'greatest crop of players England have ever produced ' and it genuinely had me stunned that anybody can believe that to be true. Gazza would still walk into this side now and he's been on the sauce for the last 30 years

I've been to the pub tonight.

 

I'm sat in front of the TV watching "Premier League Icons"

 

It's Ruud van Nistelrooy.

 

He was good, but Sky seem to be missing that midfield behind him was incredible. 

 

Where am I going with this?

 

That England midfield could be better if the manager wasn't such a negative c*** 

[Dan LCFC]

2 hours ago, Corky said:

We've had it with Rodgers too as we know.

 

No manager should ever have a free pass. It is a shocking result.

Correct. I see parallels in the situation. Though I rate Rodgers quite a lot higher than I do Southgate.

 

The number of the media who were acting as if it was some sort of sacrilege to question him. It's frankly snobbery. We produce our worst home loss in nearly a century and the fans are the problem? It's all too pally. Too nice. No accountability. But nobody should be surprised. They were giving out OBEs and acting like we won the tournament a year ago despite losing a final at home following the kindest run you will ever see anybody have to it.

 

England will not be a top tier nation for a long time. You can have all the coaching, the facilities, the players but if you're going to celebrate being runners up then you're going nowhere. Like I said, just imagine Brazil having a result like that, it would be pandemonium.

[Jaspa]

Team lacks core character, I think we've built the team around characters but they're individual. The constant chopping and changing doesn't help, you've got to nail down your starters in a system, playing a way which compliments them, then you sprinkle star dust on the top. What I'm saying is we're all icing &  sprinkles but no cake.

[Jattdogg]

56 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

BuT HeS tHe MoSt SuCcEsSfUl EnGlAnD mAnAGeR SiNcE 1966....

 

OK, what's he won? 

 

Seriously, what's he won?

Great future manager at spurs though.

 

[tom27111]

16 minutes ago, Jaspa said:

Team lacks core character, I think we've built the team around characters but they're individual. The constant chopping and changing doesn't help, you've got to nail down your starters in a system, playing a way which compliments them, then you sprinkle star dust on the top. What I'm saying is we're all icing &  sprinkles but no cake.

I think he's got his core players.

 

They're the wrong one's and his football philosophy is turgid.

 

I'd rather have Puel in charge, and that's saying something. 

 

This generation of talented players will rot.

 

[tom27111]

Just now, Jattdogg said:

Great future manager at spurs though.

 

Gerrim in!

[Jattdogg]

Just now, tom27111 said:

Gerrim in!

Fook me (not literally, unless you pay well) you amazon drivers deliver quick!

[tom27111]

I'm not saying anyone on here is saying it, but some people are defending Southgate and saying give him time, we've made a semi and a final.

 

Cool.

 

Would you want him to manage Leicester City?

 

Is David Pleat still alive? All is forgiven 

[tom27111]

2 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

Fook me (not literally, unless you pay well) you amazon drivers deliver quick!

We do our best 

[HybridFox]

3 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

I'm not saying anyone on here is saying it, but some people are defending Southgate and saying give him time, we've made a semi and a final.

 

Cool.

 

Would you want him to manage Leicester City?

 

Is David Pleat still alive? All is forgiven 

He's a midtable Championship manager at best. Can't see any Premier League team touching him with a bargepole other than maybe Palace/Villa for sentimental reasons alone

[fox_favourite]

I know it’s probably Southgate’s boring influence. But I think the players have to be blamed as well. Even if you have a boring full manager, their should still be pride to play for England. These bunch are so rich, they don’t give a toss.

 

Someone on here said we might be better not to play prem players and I agree. At least a player in a lower league might show some passion and fight.

Edited 15 June 2022 by fox_favourite