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51 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Heaven forbid anyone have an emotional range outside the ordinary. 

 

He's not hurting anyone except himself. 

Well yes he is. He isn't just chuntering at himself. He's bawling and complaining at everyone BUT himself. His box (who none of them are coaches, just friends/family there for his support), the umpire who most of rhe time can't do anything about what he's whining about, or the fans who he takes umbrage with for having the temerity to not like him. 

 

And as I speak he's whining at the umpire for stuff that was all completely his own fault. Again. 

 

Emotional range is one thing, but that isn't an excuse to have a go at everyone around you for your own failings. He's just an arsehole, plain and simple. Great player though. 

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1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

"The one who has had 700 drinks bro"

 

lol

Umpire glances around the crowd then replies “can you narrow it down a bit for me, there’s quite a few like that”

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Kyrgios lost himself that match. Completely imploded as he usually does. Bloke will never win a slam in his career unless its handed to him via injuries. 

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Just now, The Bear said:

Kyrgios lost himself that match. Completely imploded as he usually does. Bloke will never win a slam in his career unless its handed to him via injuries. 

Yeah had nothing to do with playing the greatest tennis player ever 

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3 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Yeah had nothing to do with playing the greatest tennis player ever 

First set he never said a word and won it. He just doesn't handle adversity well. 

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11 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Federer?

Yes - the likeable guy from Switzerland. 

Although, had Rod Laver been seven inches taller and hadn't been excluded from Wimbledon for several of his prime years, then the GPE accolades  would show a truer story. The game has been honed, as in many, many sports to reflect training and nutritional advances. Rugby players of fifty years ago couldn't live with the modern player. 

As Rybakina showed, a giant serve is a huge advantage. Take away second serve and the stats would be radically different and I suspect Federer would have dominated Nadal and Djokovic.

One thing I have noticed with Nadal and Djokovic are their remarkable turn-arounds. Kyrgios dominated that first set and then proceeds to lose it as Djokovic reverses the pattern. I stopped watching after two games into the second set - I knew what was coming.

The Serb who can have a word with himself in the mirror and turn around a two-set deficit? No - he and Nadal, I suspect, are practiced at working the psychology of their opponents. They enter the court with x titles backing them up. They're also two of the most determined and disciplined sportsmen in history. Kyrgios is absolutely vulnerable emotionally. He can psyche out people like Tsitsipas because he gets into their heads, but, more often than not, he gets into his own head. He's a fantastic tennis player but a poor competitor. He likes the 'bad boy of  tennis' image. I wonder if he's actually scared of winning the titles - too frightened to view himself as the conformist. 

John Conteh was asked once if he'd wasted his talent by indulging in the 'good life'. He told the interviewer that the boxing got him the good life - the adulation, the invites, the parties and the women. It's not always about the game. 

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We constantly talk about players (tennis and all sports) like they're the same, or we want them to be the same?

 

Kyrgios is box office because he's different. Sure, he's overly emotional to his detriment, but that's the way he is? You can't change some and I wouldn't want him to change unless he wanted to. Notwithstanding he winds a lot of a very specific demographic up, too, which always helps, but it's who he is.

 

Not everyone has the same emotional maturity, intelligence or psyche to be as composed as the ice cold players. It's what makes mavericks and "bad boys" of all sports compelling to watch... because they're different to the norm. Kyrgios might never reach another grand slam final, but I tell you as casual I'll be able to tell you more about yesterday's final than whatever routine final took place a few years ago. Sport NEEDS people and personalities like him. Not too many, of course, because then it'd be tedious.

 

If you want everyone to be ice cold, professional with the personality of a brush stick then that's absolutely fine, people like what they like. Just never actually expect it to be a reality because sportsmen and sportswomen are human. We're all different, with different temperaments. 

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