Dames Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Based on what I've heard, we won't be signing anyone good nor for any money. We're ****ed if this is the case. The blame will be landed on Rodgers but if this is the case then it really shouldn't land on him given he doesn't manage the finances. Nah Rodgers can't be held to account for this. Rudkin needs to be handing in his notice if this is true. Woeful mismanagement of the footballing side of things to land us in such a position. How have things gotten so bad?
FerrisBueller Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 A Fofana replacement at the bare minimum. If we sanctioned this sale in the last few days of the window without having a concrete replacement lined up then heads need to roll. 1
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba Posted 30 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 30 August 2022 We'll sign no one and go down. Almost a decade of progress down the pan. 7
Dames Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 3 minutes ago, FerrisBueller said: A Fofana replacement at the bare minimum. If we sanctioned this sale in the last few days of the window without having a concrete replacement lined up then heads need to roll. I don't want to jump the gun too early but it seems like the money men are running the show. Accountants and a CFO that are desperate to balance the books no matter the cost on the footballing side. Something has spooked the board, I've never known the club under this ownership to show such a lack of ambition after so much progress has been made. They might as well bin the stadium expansion - we'll struggle to fill the KP by the end of September.
lcfc_forever Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 We're known for surprises when it comes to players joining, so not losing heart from the links so far and most links are agent talk anyway. Confident we'll bring in at least a quality CB and a winger. 1
Spudulike Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: We'll sign no one and go down. Almost a decade of progress down the pan. And will no doubt end the stadium development plans. It's like the 1930's again when they cancelled the second double-decker. Depressing.
FerrisBueller Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Dames said: I don't want to jump the gun too early but it seems like the money men are running the show. Accountants and a CFO that are desperate to balance the books no matter the cost on the footballing side. Something has spooked the board, I've never known the club under this ownership to show such a lack of ambition after so much progress has been made. They might as well bin the stadium expansion - we'll struggle to fill the KP by the end of September. It does seem that way unfortunately, it’s scary times. I’d snap your hand off for a 17th place finish this season as it stands. Surely relegation is far more catastrophic economically?
les-tah Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: We'll sign no one and go down. Almost a decade of progress down the pan. I really didn’t want to believe this but feel its true now. All our progress over the last number of years is down the pan. All our rivals who are also outside of the historical top 6 have invested strongly and now left us behind. I simply dont believe our great owners have the money to spend on us anymore and i dont think this is going to improve anytime soon. Edited 30 August 2022 by les-tah
Dames Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Just now, FerrisBueller said: It does seem that way unfortunately, it’s scary times. I’d snap your hand off for a 17th place finish this season as it stands. Surely relegation is far more catastrophic economically? An injury ravaged squad somehow finished 8th last season, I imagine they are modelling that even with losing 2 starting 11 players we'd still get a mid table finish. I don't think relegation will have entered their minds when these decisions were made and its too late to change course now. Relegation would be a disaster and with so many loans tied up in future TV rights income we could end up in a very very bad place quickly.
Ric Flair Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 44 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: Putting on my tinfoil hat for this but... As soon as it was announced that Ward would be our number 1 this season I've been of the opinion that the club are happy to write this season off & begin a proper re-build next summer when contracts expire etc. They are gambling on us having a strong enough starting 11 to stay in the league imo. They're probably hoping Rodgers will walk before they have to sack him as well & a new manager can start fresh next year with funds. I don't think any of the Fofana money will be spent this summer as the recruitment team looks to be in a mess tbh, we haven't even got Congertons replacement in place yet have we? It doesn't make sense though that if we have financial problems that suddenly we have less financial problems in a years time when 6+ players leave for nothing. The cost of replacing such players is vast and keeping the £70-80m from Fofana's sale until next summer is also misguided. We either need it to plug serious losses (I said a week or two ago I'd been told we need to find £80m this year) in which case it won't be there for us to use in the future, but more peculiarly was that we hadn't planned on selling Fofana this summer so how else were we going to raise funds given we have been rejecting bids for players or setting prices for the likes of Tielemans too high. There's minimal appetite for this regime to use the academy either so I'm scratching my head at the short to medium term future of our club in how we replace these players. If Top and the board genuinely think we're still in good nick then that's the scariest possibility of this baffling summer. The only thing that I could take comfort with all this was was they'd lost faith in Brendan, were seeing of they could engineer him walking out and save both transfer money for the new regime but also the cost of removing him and his staff. 2
RonnieTodger Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Selling Fofana makes 0 sense if we don’t bring in any new players. £70m isn’t much good if we lose PL money. 1
Dames Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: It doesn't make sense though that if we have financial problems that suddenly we have less financial problems in a years time when 6+ players leave for nothing. The cost of replacing such players is vast and keeping the £70-80m from Fofana's sale until next summer is also misguided. We either need it to plug serious losses (I said a week or two ago I'd been told we need to find £80m this year) in which case it won't be there for us to use in the future, but more peculiarly was that we hadn't planned on selling Fofana this summer so how else were we going to raise funds given we have been rejecting bids for players or setting prices for the likes of Tielemans too high. There's minimal appetite for this regime to use the academy either so I'm scratching my head at the short to medium term future of our club in how we replace these players. If Top and the board genuinely think we're still in good nick then that's the scariest possibility of this baffling summer. The only thing that I could take comfort with all this was was they'd lost faith in Brendan, were seeing of they could engineer him walking out and save both transfer money for the new regime but also the cost of removing him and his staff. I think Rudkin has gotten arrogant and thinks he can get top dollar for every single player after a few good sales. Its his hubris thats lead us to this position.
escape2victory Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 From the outside looking in, Rudkin has stretched himself too much. If I’m not mistaken, he is the director of football at Leicester and Leuven as well as the academy director ? basically doing 3 jobs ! Maybe even 4 jobs as we are without a head of recruitment this summer too ! I know there is Andrew Neville as the football operations director, though not too such what his remit is. Fair enough Rudkin to be in charge and have a high level overview of both Leicester, Leuven and the academy, but they could do with appointing a more hands on day to day sporting director too
les-tah Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 On the positive side there is still a 0.5% chance that we have played a blinder and long con over the summer and we sign all our summer targets in the last few days after pleading poverty all summer. 2
Scotch Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 I think we'll sign a couple of players but I'm not holding out much hope of them being decent. 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 6 minutes ago, les-tah said: On the positive side there is still a 0.5% chance that we have played a blinder and long con over the summer and we sign all our summer targets in the last few days after pleading poverty all summer. I was holding on to that hope but @Chocolate Teapot knows his onions and we're fcuked.
copunk Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Have a feeling no one is coming in and we are going to gamble with what we have Could be the biggest season we have had for many a year, all for the wrong reasons
coolhandfox Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 I'm not buy the we aren't going to buy anyone line.
StevieH Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Time is ticking. There's no way we are going to gamble on paying big money for new players now. Maybe a few loan deals and that will be it. Long hard season ahead.
Ric Flair Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: I'm not buy the we aren't going to buy anyone line. We absolutely have it in us to make a pigs ear of it but then peddle the party line that deals fell through and we'll go with what we've got and reassess in January when relegated.
CloudFox Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 3 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Based on what I've heard, we won't be signing anyone good nor for any money. We're ****ed if this is the case. The blame will be landed on Rodgers but if this is the case then it really shouldn't land on him given he doesn't manage the finances. What exactly have you been told? I really, really hope this isn't true. I don't understand why the club would let that happen either. Have they just completely lost faith in Rodgers?
cityfanlee23 Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 5 hours ago, Hamilton Fox said: You mean having sold Fofana right? I agree, there’s no way we cannot get a quality defender that has to be better than Amartey or Soyunchu else we are in the shit Yeah sorry, I meant having delayed the sale for so long, if we then end up not being able to sign a replacement in time, or panic buy some palace or wolves defender who can’t get a game. Then we deserve to go down 1
whetstonefox Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 I wonder what the season ticket take up would have been if the email from the club in June just said ’we are going to wing it , sell at least one of our best players , see what happens and hope we stay up’ please pay here. I’ll always renew but feels like we’ve been sold a dud this season. I hope the club at least say something after September 1 about their ambitions. Silence is fine in good times but you can see stories dripping out and as football fans we’ll always believe the worst.
Ric Flair Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 2 minutes ago, CloudFox said: What exactly have you been told? I really, really hope this isn't true. I don't understand why the club would let that happen either. Have they just completely lost faith in Rodgers? I was told a week or two ago that the club have an £80m financial hole needing to fill. I spoke with those who get to know way more than me and they didn't believe it and went against everything the club have done in their actions this summer. Its now looking remarkably more likely there's an element of truth to what I was told and its a very depressing future for this football club. 1 1
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