Wout Faes

[leicesterlad1989]

49 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

It’s far worse to commit yourself like that on the edge of your 18 yard box when you’re the last man. Jockey, stay on your feet and delay. It’s basic defending 101. 

The thing is, he didn't really even commit himself. He sort of just fell on the floor in slow motion.  Did similar second half. Awful defending. As you've alluded too, it's basic stuff. 

[Les-TA-Jon]

6 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

People gloss over Vesty biting on a ball that should have been left to Soumare, leaving him one on one.

 

Could he have done better 100% but hardly a shock that a CB gets beaten like that.

 

No worse that a lot of them.

I’m sure this forum will stay measured and consistent. When Nelson makes a similar, minor error I’m sure we’ll all be calling for him to be dropped too…

[DennisNedry]

He's so frustrating because a lot of the time he does look good in this league, then he drops a clanger like last night. 

 

It's one of the big mysteries of our time how he gets picked consistently for Belgium.

[Noahfence]

I’m assuming by Marti’s logic he will now be banished from the squad? 

Edited 27 September 2025 by Noahfence

[honeybradger]

1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

I’m sure this forum will stay measured and consistent. When Nelson makes a similar, minor error I’m sure we’ll all be calling for him to be dropped too…

It's more acceptable for Nelson to make errors because he's young and can learn from it.

 

Faes and Vestergaard have been doing the same mistakes for us for 3 years now. This is just what they are.

[lcfc sheff]

everyone was saying he must start etc now has a badish game everyone starts fuming. 

 

 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

3 hours ago, lanefox said:

If the clueless clown had any awareness he'd see Bubba tracking back so he could press the attacker because Bubba would cover him 

 

Soumare wasn't covering anyone, he was on his arse and about ten yards behind play

[SK3Blue]

Soumare was running like he had just had a king size at Toby Carvery. Faes back peddling and then falling over/diving in was schoolboy stuff. 

Edited 27 September 2025 by SK3Blue

[Dahnsouff]

13 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

It's more acceptable for Nelson to make errors because he's young and can learn from it.

 

Faes and Vestergaard have been doing the same mistakes for us for 3 years now. This is just what they are.

For the future of the club, this is true, for this season it's not. Depends what is the priority for the club. Promotion this season or building for the future. 

[honeybradger]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

For the future of the club, this is true, for this season it's not. Depends what is the priority for the club. Promotion this season or building for the future. 

Faes and Vestergaard do not guarantee promotion. This narrative that they are imperious at this level needs to stop, they weren't last time we were down we just had too much quality for their mistakes to punish us.

 

Nelson is not only our future but he's our present, if we can get him to perform at the same form he had at Oxford he is our best defender.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just now, honeybradger said:

Faes and Vestergaard do not guarantee promotion. This narrative that they are imperious at this level needs to stop, they weren't last time we were down we just had too much quality for their mistakes to punish us.

 

Nelson is not only our future but he's our present, if we can get him to perform at the same form he had at Oxford he is our best defender.

 

I think people too readily forget the arse end of 23/24 when Vestergaard and Faes went *months* looking barely competent at this level, n all

 

I've heard both described as "Rolls-Royces at this level" - Vestergaard picked up 14 yellow cards the last time we we're in this league and he's a couple of years slower now ffs

 

I just don't get how anyone can see that pair starting and think it's fine, and in anyway a benefit to the club. Replacing either with Nelson will not categorically alter our chances of promotion.

[lanefox]

43 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Soumare wasn't covering anyone, he was on his arse and about ten yards behind play

No he wasn't 

[dmayne7]

31 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I think people too readily forget the arse end of 23/24 when Vestergaard and Faes went *months* looking barely competent at this level, n all

 

I've heard both described as "Rolls-Royces at this level" - Vestergaard picked up 14 yellow cards the last time we we're in this league and he's a couple of years slower now ffs

 

I just don't get how anyone can see that pair starting and think it's fine, and in anyway a benefit to the club. Replacing either with Nelson will not categorically alter our chances of promotion.

Yet it will categorically be a net positive for the long term. At worst it gives us a chance to make a little extra money on Nelson, and at best, it gives us a chance to make a lot of money/have a PL quality defender.

 

We know Faes and Vestergaard aren't up to it in the PL. Vestergaard started the game really well on the ball but he still gave it away a few times sloppily and the second he was pressed he struggled. Then look where he was for the goal (not even close to winning the ball) ending up with about 6/7 teammates closer to the ball. But because he can pass a ball without any pressure on, people think he's quality.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

9 minutes ago, lanefox said:

No he wasn't 

 

He was never catching Iling-Junior

[dmayne7]

3 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

I’m sure this forum will stay measured and consistent. When Nelson makes a similar, minor error I’m sure we’ll all be calling for him to be dropped too…

The same reactionary people will do, because they have written Nelson off as not good enough after that dreadful first half in the cup. Whereas as others have seen him play a lot more and know that he's much better than that.

 

In the case of Faes, I certainly wasn't calling for him back in the team because he drops a clanger almost every game (there were some other abysmal moments last night aside from the goal). He's not the long term answer, Nelson is. I like Marti and think some of his selections are out of necessity but shunting Nelson down the pecking order is poor.

[iancognito]

1 hour ago, lcfc sheff said:

everyone was saying he must start etc now has a badish game everyone starts fuming. 

 

 

No, not everyone. A lot of us laughed at the notion he's our best defender. Whether it's stupid errors or just not doing the basics, this was always going to happen.

 

There's a reason no-one's bought him. All of our other "best defender"s - like Maguire and Fofana - got big moves. Every coach sees it, every pundit sees it. He's just not that good.

[Dames]

6 minutes ago, iancognito said:

No, not everyone. A lot of us laughed at the notion he's our best defender. Whether it's stupid errors or just not doing the basics, this was always going to happen.

 

There's a reason no-one's bought him. All of our other "best defender"s - like Maguire and Fofana - got big moves. Every coach sees it, every pundit sees it. He's just not that good.

And he is yet again proving hes not even good enough at this level either. 

[Dahnsouff]

2 hours ago, honeybradger said:

Faes and Vestergaard do not guarantee promotion. This narrative that they are imperious at this level needs to stop, they weren't last time we were down we just had too much quality for their mistakes to punish us.

 

Nelson is not only our future but he's our present, if we can get him to perform at the same form he had at Oxford he is our best defender.

Who in earth is saying that? You are suggesting bias yet easily forgive your own.

[honeybradger]

36 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Who in earth is saying that? You are suggesting bias yet easily forgive your own.

Playing Faes and Vestergaard over Nelson is just yet another poor decision from a club that have been on a terrible run of decision making for the last 5-6 years. 

 

When we talk about the decline of the club in 5 years time and how we cemented ourselves from PL regulars to championship regulars the lack of game time for Nelson this season and the academy in general will be one of the main talking points. 

 

We can talk about Rudkin's previous mismanagement over the last few years all we want but the club is still currently in a salvageable position, with the number one saving grace being the talent that is coming through the academy. Cifuentes is not utilising it nearly enough and is further continuing the clubs downwards trajectory by playing the same old suspects.

 

You cant stop the rot if you build your starting XI around the rot.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Make no mistake that attempt by Faes to ‘tackle’ Illing Jr was nothing short of a disgrace. He literally downed tools in that moment, choosing to go ground and pull out of making any attempt to win the ball and that action directly cost us a goal and as it turns out cost us the chance to win the game. 
 

I am sure if Marti and the staff when they review the game and that particular incident then I would be surprised if Faes doesn’t end up back on the naughty step, that was a shocker. 

[South Shire Fox]

Just never learns does he? Was hoping this season would be the year we start to look to the future and give Nelson a fair chance. Hopefully Souttar as well when hes back fit

[MonarchFox]

Only just saw the match as been away.  Love his defending for the goal, back off, back off, back off and fall on arse.

 

He's absolutely crap when people run at him

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Playing Faes and Vestergaard over Nelson is just yet another poor decision from a club that have been on a terrible run of decision making for the last 5-6 years. .

Depends if the club is planning to get promoted this season, as Nelson who should hopefully be our future is not ready to replace them full tine imo.

 

3 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

When we talk about the decline of the club in 5 years time and how we cemented ourselves from PL regulars to championship regulars the lack of game time for Nelson this season and the academy in general will be one of the main talking points. 

 

We can talk about Rudkin's previous mismanagement over the last few years all we want but the club is still currently in a salvageable position, with the number one saving grace being the talent that is coming through the academy. Cifuentes is not utilising it nearly enough and is further continuing the clubs downwards trajectory by playing the same old suspects.

 

You cant stop the rot if you build your starting XI around the rot.

Old ground, but yeah broadly agree with the decline. 
Do not think youth players naturally replace older pro’s yesterday being a case in point.

Panning Marti for not auto starting youth is silly, as don’t you think youth players have a pre-agreed pathway?

I actually find this viewpoint infuriating as it’s the same attitude of children not getting their toys on Christmas Eve, and no we don’t know better

This is where planning and patience is the order of the day

 

But yeah, it’s all onions

[st albans fox]

The issue is that we want to sell him in Jan and if we aren’t having him as a starter then we can’t ask for 7-9m 

as a player who isn’t in a championship team we will struggle to get £5m !

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, st albans fox said:

The issue is that we want to sell him in Jan and if we aren’t having him as a starter then we can’t ask for 7-9m 

as a player who isn’t in a championship team we will struggle to get £5m !

Do we?