Collymore Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 6 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: For me the Pearson era is long gone, we need to accept that. You have to remember he's been struggling at Bristol City last few seasons in the championship. You just can't judge Pearson else where. He fits us like a perfectly fitting silk glove. He knows it, he will be back at us some day, mark my words. 3
hejammy Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 1 minute ago, Collymore said: You just can't judge Pearson else where. He fits us like a perfectly fitting silk glove. He knows it, he will be back at us some day, mark my words. Possibly next season in the championship. We've out grown him in the Premier league. 1
ARTY_FOX Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 1 minute ago, Collymore said: You just can't judge Pearson else where. He fits us like a perfectly fitting silk glove. He knows it, he will be back at us some day, mark my words. Sometimes, for some reason, things just work for certain people at certain clubs despite all logic and reasoning. 1
moore_94 Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Is that true ? In the Prem Benitez Games managed - 86 Games won - 27 (31% win rate) Games drawn - 21 Games lost - 38 97 goals scored, 107 conceded Total Points - 102 (1.19 points per match) Bruce Games managed - 84 Games won - 23 (27% win rate) Games drawn - 23 Games lost - 38 94 goals scored, 139 goals conceded Total points - 92 (1.10 points per match) Not much in it really, conceded a lot more goals under Bruce though Benitez also had a lot less to spend than Bruce though I believe Edited 4 April 2023 by moore_94 2
LVFox Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 6 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: In all seriousness, Hütter is a pretty hardcore 3-4-3 guy and that would be a big shock to the system with 10 matches left. He is, but did occasionally revert to a 4-2-3-1 at Gladbach, and his Frankfurt team also played more of a 3-4-1-2. Could see us adapting nicely to his 3-4-3 for the rest of the season tbh! Cags back as a wide centre back, Maddison, Kelechi and Barnes up front.
Guesty Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Is that true ? Benitez had a net spend of around 3 million. Bruce's was 67 mill. Benitez had to beg borrow and steal there. His only real big signing was Almiron. I think a lot of Newcastle fans used to wonder what would have happened if he'd been backed a bit more. 1
Collymore Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 2 minutes ago, hejammy said: Possibly next season in the championship. We've out grown him in the Premier league. I don't know how you can say this. He was one of most progressive managers who ran us like an award winning German tyre manufacturing plant. We have him to thank for all of the success we've had over the last 8 years and he never reached his ceiling. We're crying out for his direction, systems and discipline. 1 1
LVFox Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 Martin O'Neill about to be on talksport talking Leicester (well, at some point in the next hour). He'll be viewing this as perfect opportunity to get back in the game. I'm not advocating it at all but he'd definitely create a good atmosphere at the KP. 1
Collymore Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 9 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: Sometimes, for some reason, things just work for certain people at certain clubs despite all logic and reasoning. Exactly this. He has a strut and smirk around the place I've only seen at Leicester.
foxfanazer Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 Just now, LVFox said: Martin O'Neill about to be on talksport talking Leicester (well, at some point in the next hour). He'll be viewing this as perfect opportunity to get back in the game. I'm not advocating it at all but he'd definitely create a good atmosphere at the KP. The games moved on way too much imo. If people are scoffing at Pearson then this shouldn't be considered 4
Gubbins Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 Just now, Collymore said: I don't know how you can say this. He was one of most progressive managers who ran us like an award winning German tyre manufacturing plant. We have him to thank for all of the success we've had over the last 8 years and he never reached his ceiling. We're crying out for his direction, systems and discipline. But he was successful here as part of a 3 man team. Without Shakespeare and Walsh he's not the same as all his post Leicester jobs have shown. Same thing happened to Clough without taylor and O Neil without Robertson. 1
dylanlegend Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 18 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Is that true ? Rafa finished 13th in his final season at Newcastle. With Bruce they finished 13th and 12th. Pretty much exactly the same points as well. https://www.transfermarkt.com/newcastle-united/platzierungen/verein/762
Leicesterpool Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 9 minutes ago, Guesty said: Benitez had a net spend of around 3 million. Bruce's was 67 mill. Benitez had to beg borrow and steal there. His only real big signing was Almiron. I think a lot of Newcastle fans used to wonder what would have happened if he'd been backed a bit more. Everton didn't exactly have much money either, plus entered a club where fans didn't want him either. Gary Rowett deserves a go seems have done amazing job at Millwall, but I'm not sure TOP would dive into the championship to bring a manager in.
Collymore Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 1 minute ago, Gubbins said: But he was successful here as part of a 3 man team. Without Shakespeare and Walsh he's not the same as all his post Leicester jobs have shown. Same thing happened to Clough without taylor and O Neil without Robertson. It's not an exact science.
Leicesterpool Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 2 minutes ago, LVFox said: Martin O'Neill about to be on talksport talking Leicester (well, at some point in the next hour). He'll be viewing this as perfect opportunity to get back in the game. I'm not advocating it at all but he'd definitely create a good atmosphere at the KP. Martin O'Neill with Neil Lennon as assistant. Could work on a short term maybe, but I'm not sure if Martin has strength no more for a premier league job. 1
dylanlegend Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gubbins said: But he was successful here as part of a 3 man team. Without Shakespeare and Walsh he's not the same as all his post Leicester jobs have shown. Same thing happened to Clough without taylor and O Neil without Robertson. Well get Shakey and Walsh to come back with him! I’m sure Rodgers wages alone would cover all 3 with change to spare Edited 4 April 2023 by dylanlegend
LVFox Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 6 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: The games moved on way too much imo. If people are scoffing at Pearson then this shouldn't be considered Oh I agree! Just letting people know really. In all honesty I think anyone can see us safe short term, including Sadler and Stowell. 2
themightyfin Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 Don't think we have given up on Potter somehow... 4
dylanlegend Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 13 minutes ago, Collymore said: I don't know how you can say this. He was one of most progressive managers who ran us like an award winning German tyre manufacturing plant. We have him to thank for all of the success we've had over the last 8 years and he never reached his ceiling. We're crying out for his direction, systems and discipline. Exactly. We need someone to make big decisions and get us back to basics. He’s not pulling up trees at Bristol City they have a low budget but if you read their forum most of the thier fans love him
CosbehFox Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 6 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Rafa finished 13th in his final season at Newcastle. With Bruce they finished 13th and 12th. Pretty much exactly the same points as well. https://www.transfermarkt.com/newcastle-united/platzierungen/verein/762 You have to provide some context there. He finished 10th with a newly promoted side in his first PL season. Then the final season it was long rumoured Benitez would leave. After those two seasons of stabilisation, Bruce had money to spend
themightyfin Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 5 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Martin O'Neill with Neil Lennon as assistant. Could work on a short term maybe, but I'm not sure if Martin has strength no more for a premier league job. OK I got it. Np- manager Lennon - Assistant MON -Director of football. Shakespeare-First team coach Powell -First team coach Walsh -Head Scout. Everybody happy? 4
Gravel Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 12 minutes ago, LVFox said: Martin O'Neill about to be on talksport talking Leicester (well, at some point in the next hour). He'll be viewing this as perfect opportunity to get back in the game. I'm not advocating it at all but he'd definitely create a good atmosphere at the KP. My Nokia 3310 was great in 2000 but wouldn't go back to using one now. 3
Nobbyburton Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 2 minutes ago, themightyfin said: OK I got it. Np- manager Lennon - Assistant MON -Director of football. Shakespeare-First team coach Powell -First team coach Walsh -Head Scout. Everybody happy? You need to fit in Cambiasso? He'd be buzzing with a role in the academy surely.
Happy Fox Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 4 minutes ago, themightyfin said: OK I got it. Np- manager Lennon - Assistant MON -Director of football. Shakespeare-First team coach Powell -First team coach Walsh -Head Scout. Everybody happy? Ranieri head chef?
hejammy Posted 4 April 2023 Posted 4 April 2023 21 minutes ago, Collymore said: I don't know how you can say this. He was one of most progressive managers who ran us like an award winning German tyre manufacturing plant. We have him to thank for all of the success we've had over the last 8 years and he never reached his ceiling. We're crying out for his direction, systems and discipline. Becuase we cannot go backwards. He's been sacked from here twice. Yes he got the best out of a bunch of "no hopes and rejects" but now we have a different set of players. A different breed. Besides I cannot see the club going for him for a 3rd time and I can't see him wanting to come here again. We need a bastard to come in yes, but not him. Something a bit fresh and different.
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