coolhandfox Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 1 hour ago, when_you're_smiling said: I’d have preferred Mendy to Soumare as an option next year. Can’t see anybody coming in and paying for Soumare or taking on his wages though. But as you said we many not be able to shift Soumare, we have to cut costs and the out-of-contract players are the easiest option. 3
Viva Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 1 minute ago, elvisfmcfly said: Fergie built numerous great Man United Teams, he also won the league in his last season with that shit United team, Rodgers got us relegated. Nice try lad. I don't need to try with comments like yours. You make it easy for me. I've certainly never heard of judging how good a manager was, not by his achievements, but by the team he left the next manager. Makes is much easier for poor managers to actually look good when a better manager comes in and improves the team.
elvisfmcfly Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 1 minute ago, Viva said: I don't need to try with comments like yours. You make it easy for me. I've certainly never heard of judging how good a manager was, not by his achievements, but by the team he left the next manager. Makes is much easier for poor managers to actually look good when a better manager comes in and improves the team. He relegated us you 🥬 he got worse each season he was here, lucky Fa cup win doesn’t save what hes done to our club. The fact that people like you still lick his beanbag is unfathomable. 1
Viva Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 Just now, elvisfmcfly said: He relegated us you 🥬 he got worse each season he was here, lucky Fa cup win doesn’t save what hes done to our club. The fact that people like you still lick his beanbag is unfathomable. The last two years have been very poor. It still doesn't erase the fact that he did very well up to that point. Not sure what's unfathomable about that. It's easier to lie and say he's been a failure from the start, but it's just not true. 2 1
Finnegan Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 Soumare =/= Mendy. Not sure why Soumare needs a mention in here. Yes, we will need a holding midfielder but even in the Championship I'd like to think in 2023 we could find one good enough on the ball to offer SOME progression up the pitch. Ndidi is abysmal on the ball and Mendy is an actual caricature of a midfielder who can only pass sideways. They're the only true holding midfielders we have/had, it's a role that will need filling. KDH and Soumare are box to box players and Hamza is just... Hamza. 1
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 6 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 June 2023 58 minutes ago, Viva said: I know people on here don't like giving Rodgers any credit, but to be in the top four for almost two seasons (I know we bottled it twice), was definitely overachieving. Add to that an FA Cup win and you have to give him a lot of credit. We all know what has happened since then and the mistakes that have been made, but to try and suggest Puel deserves all the credit is ignoring the facts. There were no signs we was about to challenge the top 4 under Puel. I don't think I'll ever see us finish in the top 6 and win a major trophy in the same season again. Rodgers has played a massive part in our relegation but his first two full seasons were unbelivable. 8
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 6 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 June 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, elvisfmcfly said: He relegated us you 🥬 he got worse each season he was here, lucky Fa cup win doesn’t save what hes done to our club. The fact that people like you still lick his beanbag is unfathomable. Our FA Cup win wasn't "lucky". I don't think many people like Rodgers but you can't take that away. If it was easy or lucky to win the FA Cup then someone before Rodgers would have done it. It's bad enough other fanbases putting us down but it's sad seeing it from within. In years to come you can say you saw us win the FA Cup. Edited 6 June 2023 by Fox92 8
elvisfmcfly Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 14 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Our FA Cup win wasn't "lucky". I don't think many people like Rodgers but you can't take that away. If it was easy or lucky to win the FA Cup then someone before Rodgers would have done it. It's bad enough other fanbases putting us down but it's sad seeing it from within. In years to come you can say you saw us win the FA Cup. The final was damn lucky, Chilwell had scored and lucky for us it got ruled out cause Braindead had took off all our attackers, if that goal had been given and it went to extra time we would have been beaten. Chelsea were the better team and I no way celebrated that cup win anything like the title win which we thoroughly deserved. 1
Popular Post Sampson Posted 6 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 June 2023 Just now, elvisfmcfly said: The final was damn lucky, Chilwell had scored and lucky for us it got ruled out cause Braindead had took off all our attackers, if that goal had been given and it went to extra time we would have been beaten. Chelsea were the better team and I no way celebrated that cup win anything like the title win which we thoroughly deserved. What a weirdo. You didn’t celebrate that fa cup win because you didn’t think we “deserved” it? So you only celebrate victories where we genuinely outplayed the opposition? 6 1
elvisfmcfly Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 1 minute ago, Sampson said: What a weirdo. You didn’t celebrate that fa cup win because you didn’t think we “deserved” it? So you only celebrate victories where we genuinely outplayed the opposition? I said anything like the title win can you read? I also knew it would keep Rodgers in a job longer, I’d already seen enough of him at that point, long before he was allowed to do what he did. 1
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 6 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 June 2023 8 minutes ago, elvisfmcfly said: The final was damn lucky, Chilwell had scored and lucky for us it got ruled out cause Braindead had took off all our attackers, if that goal had been given and it went to extra time we would have been beaten. Chelsea were the better team and I no way celebrated that cup win anything like the title win which we thoroughly deserved. Pretty much all finals are lucky. That's how they go, they aren't like normal games. I would live that day at Wembley over and over again. 6
CosbehFox Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 I don’t really get the great pro line. He effectively did what Youri has done but twice. One of those occasions he had no better offers, so rather than leave and get first team football, he took a new deal with the knowledge he was back up. He’s then done that again this season rather than ask for a loan move or a transfer ala Perez. He’s cruised along at this club without pushing himself. 2
dannythefox Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 I don’t mind Mendy but who’s to say he wasn’t offered a new deal and he turned it down?
coolhandfox Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 43 minutes ago, elvisfmcfly said: The final was damn lucky, Chilwell had scored and lucky for us it got ruled out cause Braindead had took off all our attackers, if that goal had been given and it went to extra time we would have been beaten. Chelsea were the better team and I no way celebrated that cup win anything like the title win which we thoroughly deserved. Luck had nothing to do with it. Chilwell didn't time his run. 2
Popular Post when_you're_smiling Posted 6 June 2023 Popular Post Posted 6 June 2023 2 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: The final was damn lucky, Chilwell had scored and lucky for us it got ruled out cause Braindead had took off all our attackers, if that goal had been given and it went to extra time we would have been beaten. Chelsea were the better team and I no way celebrated that cup win anything like the title win which we thoroughly deserved. I’m calling it. This is one of the worst posts in Foxes Talk history. Ignore any times the club’s been unlucky in the cup in the previous 120-odd years. You weren’t totally happy because a much more wealthy club didn’t score a legal goal? You could be waiting another 120-years for that moment. Anyway…..good luck Pappy. I’m still annoyed we didn’t adopt the ‘Whoop, whoop that’s the sound of Nampalys’ chant. 6 1
Dan Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 The rhetoric that we've basically let Andrea Pirlo walk away for nothing sums up our decline to be honest. 3
filbertway Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 3 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: I said anything like the title win can you read? I also knew it would keep Rodgers in a job longer, I’d already seen enough of him at that point, long before he was allowed to do what he did. I can kind of sympathise with this I enjoyed the final immensely and celebrated it hard but I do remember thinking "bloody hell, it's going to be even harder to shake him now". Black and white thinking football fans just can't seem to bring context into any thoughts. So he has to go down as some kind of a legend who has all this magical credit in the bank. Rather than just going "oh look, a good bunch of players won every game they were favourites for and then sh*thoused the final in the most spectacular way possible". Then you have to be talked down to by "real fans" for 12-18 months until they wake up, all it takes to wake them up is getting relegated with the 7 or 8th highest wage bill in the league. 1
Vestan Pance Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 3 hours ago, CosbehFox said: I don’t really get the great pro line. He effectively did what Youri has done but twice. One of those occasions he had no better offers, so rather than leave and get first team football, he took a new deal with the knowledge he was back up. He’s then done that again this season rather than ask for a loan move or a transfer ala Perez. He’s cruised along at this club without pushing himself. He's one of those players that the less he plays the better our fans think he is, when in actual fact he's nowhere near the standard required. Not one premier league team came in when he took us for mugs the first time. 1
deep blue Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Luck had nothing to do with it. Chilwell didn't time his No credit to our defence for Chilwell mistiming his run, so we got lucky, and by the width of a hair. Edited 6 June 2023 by deep blue 1
elvisfmcfly Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 6 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Luck had nothing to do with it. Chilwell didn't time his run. That was onside and if we’d got that disallowed I would have been furious. 1
NasPb Posted 6 June 2023 Posted 6 June 2023 7 hours ago, Fox92 said: Our FA Cup win wasn't "lucky". I don't think many people like Rodgers but you can't take that away. If it was easy or lucky to win the FA Cup then someone before Rodgers would have done it. It's bad enough other fanbases putting us down but it's sad seeing it from within. In years to come you can say you saw us win the FA Cup. iheanacho gave us that mainly mate. look how rodgers rewarded him theres this perpetous and strange thought that the team he inherited was bad. team was excellent. and look how he left it. in ruins. sure he did good but with a good side. didnt overachieve at all though. just achieved. and miserbaly failed when times got even a bit tough. consistently till the end
coolhandfox Posted 7 June 2023 Posted 7 June 2023 8 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: That was onside and if we’d got that disallowed I would have been furious. How was it onside? 1
Fox1980 Posted 7 June 2023 Posted 7 June 2023 “I do remember when Wigan didn’t celebrate winning the FA Cup because it was a lucky win” - said no Wigan fan ever! 1 1
elvisfmcfly Posted 7 June 2023 Posted 7 June 2023 3 hours ago, coolhandfox said: How was it onside? That’s easy, cause it wasn’t offside!
elvisfmcfly Posted 7 June 2023 Posted 7 June 2023 2 hours ago, Fox1980 said: “I do remember when Wigan didn’t celebrate winning the FA Cup because it was a lucky win” - said no Wigan fan ever! 2 hours ago, Fox1980 said: “I do remember when Wigan didn’t celebrate winning the FA Cup because it was a lucky win” - said no Wigan fan ever! I guess you thought that was good whist you was writing it out, it wasn’t.
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