If you could keep one player for the Championship

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Iheanacho is also just a backable bloke unlike about 95% of his teammates 

[Chelmofox]

14 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

But it's contextual. We were / have been a solid premier league club when we let very competent players contracts run down.

 

*This summer* what does Kel fetch? 15m? What's the going rate for a striker who'll be top tier championship class these days? £10-15m? Even then there's no guarantee whoever you buy will necessarily work, whereas we know Iheanachos qualities. Feels like a roll of the dice that's probably worth it even in the (unlikely, imo) event he stinks the npower out and walks for nothing. 

I agree about Nacho. Give him that no 10 role and i think most people would wonder what all the Madders fuss was about.

 

Not sure what money he is on. I can see 90k a week mentioned but presume that gets reduced.  That 10-15million for a championship striker you quote brings in someone who is on a longer deal and has potential resale. Its not a like for like with the 15 million you could get for Nacho, which also reduces the wage bill.

 

I think if we keep Nacho it comes at a calculated risk that he can be used to get us back quickly but will likely be gone next summer.  But, we are doing this with someone who has not been a starting regular for us. Just doesn't add up from a business point of view. Also, if we do this and and he leaves, i have to read the countless threads about 'why are we letting players leave on free transfers  !

 

But would love him to stay and bang in 20 goals next season. Would be awesome. Just don't see it and i think we will see him somewhere like Brentford when they get rid of Toney. For them, he's an absolute steal for 15 million.

Edited 20 May 2023 by Chelmofox

[Jattdogg]

Nacho 100% has to stay. 

[Pliskin]

Iversen will stay, we could probably sell ward to be fair and keep Smithies as the number two. Soutter would stay I imagine, Justin will probably stay, KDH will stay and Vardy will stay. In terms of returning loans I can see Hamza staying, and possibly Albrighton. 
 

That’s probably it, everyone else will probably go. We will raise a fair amount of cash, but we will either waste it panic buying as we will have no plan…… or we will spent too much time selling, and won’t leave enough time to make signings. Plus we will still get ripped off as the money coming in will show other teams how much we’ve got.

 

A rebuild in the championship is much harder than rebuilding in the premier league in my opinion.  
 

I think what we may have to do, is put together a team to cling on to the periphery of the play offs, and then make some good signings in January for a late charge. 
 

But, I can’t help but feel all we will do, is be signing players that won’t provide any long term progression, and will merely be patching up the squad. 

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

So, there is a lot of people going for Nacho, which i don't disagree with, but....

 

Are you happy to keep him knowing its very, very likely he walks out on a free at the end of next season? No chance he signs a new deal. This is the exact situation many of us have criticised the club over (letting players run contracts down). We cant criticise this when it suits as and turn a blind eye  again when it suits us. 

 

Even for the first year in the championship, we have to be getting things right with player contracts.

If he stayed and led us to promotion I think he'd stay longer. Seems settled here.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

I agree about Nacho. Give him that no 10 role and i think most people would wonder what all the Madders fuss was about.

 

Not sure what money he is on. I can see 90k a week mentioned but presume that gets reduced.  That 10-15million for a championship striker you quote brings in someone who is on a longer deal and has potential resale. Its not a like for like with the 15 million you could get for Nacho, which also reduces the wage bill.

 

I think if we keep Nacho it comes at a calculated risk that he can be used to get us back quickly but will likely be gone next summer.  But, we are doing this with someone who has not been a starting regular for us. Just doesn't add up from a business point of view. Also, if we do this and and he leaves, i have to read the countless threads about 'why are we letting players leave on free transfers  !

 

But would love him to stay and bang in 20 goals next season. Would be awesome. Just don't see it and i think we will see him somewhere like Brentford when they get rid of Toney. For them, he's an absolute steak for 15 million.

I don’t disagree about resale value but I think if he has a great season for us he signs on for longer. The last thing we need is another £15 million flop sitting around when we know Kel is actually not shit. Do you trust our board to hypothetically sign someone half decent in his place? Because it makes that resale value less of a factor if so - and I don’t at the moment. 

 

Keep Daka and stick the bloody pair of them up top and I genuinely think we’d be laughing. Ultimately one or both of them will go regardless. 

[splinterdream]

3 hours ago, Batfink77 said:

I live and work in Nottingham these days. Wonderful experience for the footy!  Anyway..  at work this week a forest fan was 'being advised' by a Chelsea fan that "when leicester go down and if you stay up, it'd be worth a punt on getting Vardy in for a year".   

Made my stomach turn.  Got me thinking though. Surely Vards wouldn't ruin his legendary status by prolonging his premier career for a year with florist??  Would he...

depends if he gets a significant drop in wages, he'll want to max his income whilst he can, couldn't blame him really

[SK3Blue]

Nacho.. needs quality around him but if he's playing every week, he'll bag 30 next season at that level. 

[Corky]

41 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

Obviously everyone expects Nacho would bag a hatful of goals against Championship defenders. 

His cup record suggests he'd do ok.

[Brainy]

20 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

Your argument against him can’t be that he scores the majority of his goals through “slices of good luck” what on earth

Reminds me of that waste of space Yakubu who only scored goals 

[Chelmofox]

10 minutes ago, Corky said:

If he stayed and led us to promotion I think he'd stay longer. Seems settled here.

All a calculated risk.  Could get to the position where we are stuggling towards the end of next season and need people to put shifts in, but he takes his foot off the gas so not to upset a possible free transfer. Or he gets injured and we are paying 70k a week for a lame duck. All business sense says we should cash in.

[JimJams]

If we're not offering a new contract and building a team around Daniel Amartey, I'm not sure if I can stay invested in this club!

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

All a calculated risk.  Could get to the position where we are stuggling towards the end of next season and need people to put shifts in, but he takes his foot off the gas so not to upset a possible free transfer. Or he gets injured and we are paying 70k a week for a lame duck. All business sense says we should cash in.

Probably less of a risk keeping him, considering we know his personality and we're fully aware of his ability. Bigger risk selling him and hoping whoever we bring in, is as good around the club and also scores a fair few. 

[Brainy]

7 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

All a calculated risk.  Could get to the position where we are stuggling towards the end of next season and need people to put shifts in, but he takes his foot off the gas so not to upset a possible free transfer. Or he gets injured and we are paying 70k a week for a lame duck. All business sense says we should cash in.

Come on, that injury scenario can be said about anyone 

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, Stinky said:

Come on, that injury scenario can be said about anyone 

Of course. Hurts double when they are on 70k odd a week.

 

It is interesting that every advocates doing what we did with Youri and Cags whilst complaining about it.

[Brainy]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

Of course. Hurts double when they are on 70k odd a week.

 

It is interesting that every advocates doing what we did with Youri and Cags whilst complaining about it.

I feel were just going round in circles here. There's a difference between letting Tielemans and Soyuncu run their contracts down and Albrighton. Nacho fits somewhere in the middle of those names so it's fair that it's debatable whether to cash in or not. But he's the only one of our strikers right now that I feel confident would bag 20+ next season. Sure 10-15m from selling him could go towards a new forward but the way this club is being ran at the moment I wouldn't trust us to replace him adequately.

[JimmyC74]

24 minutes ago, Stinky said:

I feel were just going round in circles here. There's a difference between letting Tielemans and Soyuncu run their contracts down and Albrighton. Nacho fits somewhere in the middle of those names so it's fair that it's debatable whether to cash in or not. But he's the only one of our strikers right now that I feel confident would bag 20+ next season. Sure 10-15m from selling him could go towards a new forward but the way this club is being ran at the moment I wouldn't trust us to replace him adequately.

Underlines the negligence in not taking action earlier / stopping the rot and retaining our place in the Prem.

 

we have to make 10 - 15 signings in the summer, on 1/3 commercial revenues in the EFL and we ain’t confident in our ability to pick or sign the right players.

 

 

Edited 20 May 2023 by JimmyC74

[Larry_LCFC]

We need KDH to step up and be as good as prime Danny Drinkwater was. Driving force in midfield. Championship football is not about your fancy passing and possession, its about being physical and scoring a shit load of goals. Nacho would also be massive for us I think.

[Batfink77]

5 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Are you mental

Having seen the mentality of other footballers it does make you wonder, but yes hopefully my concerns are indeed 'mental'

[beepee1984]

Do we have to keep one?

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, Batfink77 said:

Having seen the mentality of other footballers it does make you wonder, but yes hopefully my concerns are indeed 'mental'

I'd ****ing die for this club 

 

I think most of foxestalk enjoy misery 

[Saladin]

Soyuncu 

[Guest Col city fan]

Daka 

Keep him and I think he’ll score hatfuls in the Championship 

[I am an Ostrich]

Ward 

[Finnegan]

I'd absolutely love to see Daka and Iheanacho get a full year as 9 & 10 together in the Championship with a couple of new, exciting young wingers. 

 

So one of them, hopefully both, Daka on the longer contract so hopefully he's staying. So I guess I'd say Nacho? 

 

Edited 20 May 2023 by Finnegan