We Are One WIN from Saftey

[Mickyblueeyes]

I think the OP is mad to still have hope.

 

HOWEVER, All of us who think that, how great would it be if he comes on here tomorrow night and tells us he was right!

[Tuna]

We've demonstrated recently we are incapable of helping ourselves out of our situation, indeed even when we are given gifts we turn them away (Maddison penalty).

 

Can only see wins if we put in 8 or 9/10's accross the board and our opponents make mistakes and put in 4 or 5's accross the board, and even then I wouldn't be confident we'd take advantage.

[Scotch]

37 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Everton’s goal difference is -24 our’s is -18

Ah, so it's SS that have the GD wrong then. Sounds about right. 

[ithuriel]

23 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I think the OP is mad to still have hope.

 

HOWEVER, All of us who think that, how great would it be if he comes on here tomorrow night and tells us he was right!

I'd ask him for Tuesdays lottery numbers 

[Paninistickers]

Everything hinges on Leeds not winning today.

 

Then, if that turns out well for us, 2 wins and we stay up. That simple. Regardless of what Leeds and Everton do. I don't think we'll do that, mind. But the opportunity is there. And if I was manager, I'd be encouraging the players to embrace it

 

 

[fox_favourite]

3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Everything hinges on Leeds not winning today.

 

Then, if that turns out well for us, 2 wins and we stay up. That simple. Regardless of what Leeds and Everton do. I don't think we'll do that, mind. But the opportunity is there. And if I was manager, I'd be encouraging the players to embrace it

 

 

Nothing else to lose. But the players have already given up. See the body language after the third goal against Liverpool. 

 

 

Edited 21 May 2023 by fox_favourite

[Paninistickers]

6 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

Nothing else to lose. But the players have already given up. See the body language after the third goal against Liverpool. 

 

 

I agree. Tho I good manager would frame the Geordie game into segments, say first 5, next 15, next 10, last 15. And have a default fall back of what to do if we go a goal down. 

 

The players should have every decision removed from.them. No looking around and arguing and shrugging. There's a playbook for each early scenario. 

 

 

[trooky]

No we would need to win both, but can't see us getting anything from the Newcastle game.

 

These bottlers will probably beat West Ham 5-0 once we're relegated and the pressure is off.

[Alf Bentley]

In preparation, this evening I shall be singing an adaptation of Gene Pitney's song: "24 hours from Saftey" (Saftey is that village next along from Rothley, isn't it?)

 

 

[Area88]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I think the OP is mad to still have hope.

 

HOWEVER, All of us who think that, how great would it be if he comes on here tomorrow night and tells us he was right!

I will be back after the Leeds game.

[Area88]

Leeds are losing 2-1 with 18 minutes to go. You will all thank me later.

[Foxxed]

Nevermind

Edited 21 May 2023 by Foxxed

[Foxxed]

Scenario 1 - "Hoping they lose and we win"

Leeds lose or draw.

Everton lose.

We beat Newcastle or West Ham.

 

Scenario 2 - "Hoping for a dramatic change in form"

Leeds win and/or Everton draw.

We draw at Newcastle and beat West Ham.

 

Scenario 3 - "Hoping for a miracle"

Leeds and Everton win

We beat Newcastle and West Ham

 

Then sweet, sweet Saftey.

 

Time for some magical thinking about purposely ignoring form and sense!

 

 

Edited 21 May 2023 by Foxxed

[Cincinnati Fox]

2 wins and we stay up, simple.

[SheppyFox]

17 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Leeds will win both their games.

No mate 

[Tom12345]

That Wolves giveaway to Everton was absolutely massive. Wolves should be investigated. Brighton as well.

[Ian S]

17 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Leeds will win both their games.

Really, how many times have you been wrong this season, either about results or players 😂

[steveb]

west ham 3 leeds 1

unbelievably its in our hands if we stay up or not

but i still woulnd`t bet a tenner at 100/1 to beat Newcastle

 

[yorkie1999]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Everything hinges on Leeds not winning today.

 

Then, if that turns out well for us, 2 wins and we stay up. That simple. Regardless of what Leeds and Everton do. I don't think we'll do that, mind. But the opportunity is there. And if I was manager, I'd be encouraging the players to embrace it

 

 

Unless Everton win by 10 goals

[yorkie1999]

Ffs, we’ve got 2 games for the players to play like they’ve never done before. It’s in their hands and if a manager can’t get em up for those last 2 games, knowing what depends on it, he shouldn’t be in football.

[gw_leics772]

13 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Ffs, we’ve got 2 games for the players to play like they’ve never done before. 

I'd argue they already have been and that's what got us into this mess. 

 

They've actually been playing like they've never even heard of the sport and never even met each other before. 

Edited 21 May 2023 by gw_leics772

[Mike Oxlong]

The reality is almost certainly two more half arsed bottle jobs I’m afraid. Too many invested in themselves without being invested in the interests of the club that has made them secure for life 

[Fazzer 7]

8 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

The reality is almost certainly two more half arsed bottle jobs I’m afraid. Too many invested in themselves without being invested in the interests of the club that has made them secure for life 

On the money. 3 - 0 tomorrow and a point v West Ham

[Area88]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

Scenario 1 - "Hoping they lose and we win"

Leeds lose or draw.

Everton lose.

We beat Newcastle or West Ham.

 

Scenario 2 - "Hoping for a dramatic change in form"

Leeds win and/or Everton draw.

We draw at Newcastle and beat West Ham.

 

Scenario 3 - "Hoping for a miracle"

Leeds and Everton win

We beat Newcastle and West Ham

 

Then sweet, sweet Saftey.

 

Time for some magical thinking about purposely ignoring form and sense!

 

 

Scenario 1 is most probable because of three reasons -

 

A) Are we confident that Leeds can beat Spurs? Big fat NO from me. Harry Kane to score at least 2 goals in Spurs last game.

B) Are we confident that Bournemouth can finish off Everton? This is the most iffy fixture. I would say Bournemouth have definitely got it in them to beat Everton after losing 3 in a row to strong sides. Prior to that, they were winning all the games comfortably..

C) If Leicester lose tomorrow, can they beat West Ham on the last game of the season? I would say they can if all the players show up for one last hurrah, they can and will.

 

So without using the SuperComputer, I would say we are 100% certain to go to the last game of the season with a 50% chance of surviving all of this. But we must beat West Ham and for other results to go our way. I think the other results (using probability above) will go our way. So we must win on the last game of the season.

 

Newcastle tomorrow needs to be a training session for West Ham on the final game of the season. Moyes will be resting players hopefully for his Europe Cup final. I predict Moyes will rest his top players.

[Guest PiiWii]

One thing you're all forgetting is the unfairness factor. City will beat West Ham and Everton will scrape a draw against Bournemouth in the last 5 mins. (probably scored by Demarai Gray). This is the most likely scenario because then Evertons whole FFP thing will come back to haunt us.