Tactics Under Maresca

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

I feel bad saying it but Albrighton has shown absolutely nothing in his cameos this season.

 

He isn’t going to change an outcome positively in 2023.

I'd have had him taking that free kick Justin had in the 96th in 2093, never mind 2023.

[SafewayFox]

13 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

I'd have had him taking that free kick Justin had in the 96th in 2093, never mind 2023.

JJ should have been nowhere near it.

 

Surely Winks would have been a better shout?

 

 

[Guest Kopfkino]

Arsenal using a tall player in the 8 position to play over a good out of possession team. If only we could have found such pragmatism…

[The Doctor]

3 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Saying Leeds weren't as good as Sunderland does Leeds a disservice, though. Sunderland only had one really good opportunity in the whole match, Leeds had 6 shots on target compared to our 1.

Sunderland had 13 shots to our 8 in that game (3 v 5 on target), Leeds had 11 shots to our 10 (6 v 1 on target). The disparity is not that Leeds created more decent openings than Sunderland, but that they've got better forwards than Sunderland at getting shots on target and we were incredibly profligate in our shooting last night. In both games, Mads only really had one save that was anything other than routine to make. Leeds were no better than Sunderland going forward, defensively perhaps although again, more shots from us v Leeds than v Sunderland, we just got the breaks and showed the quality in the Sunderland game and didn't get the breaks or show enough quality in certain positions last night. Sunderland we won but were a dodgy penalty call v Faes and a one v one save from Mads v Clarke from losing, yesterday we lost but were a crossbar and defenders switching on at a corner from winning. Both games were pretty even and could have gone either way

Edited 4 November 2023 by The Doctor

[smudger63]

1 hour ago, Lillehamring said:

Despite the fact that we certainly have done this!

I'm not saying we go all route one, but in the games where we have been under more pressure (the liverpool games spring to mind) we have had vestergaard and faes playing balls over the top into the space teams are leaving.  In the same way we have also played long diagonals into the space the wingers have been finding.  Leeds, sunderland and even QPR left space to attack and we've failed to exploit it.

What I'm trying to say is, the instances you are alluding too, they are long passes with a reason,  not just aimless balls for someone to chase for the sake of aimlessly chasing.

Often you will see the run about to be made before the pass. Something we were doing earlier in the season, was a long central pass, with mavadidi coming off of his wing into the centre, as the pass was made.

Of course, on the odd occasion the ball will be hoofed away, when the player with the ball is under extreme pressure, but even then, more often than not, they will risk trying to play their way out, because its what they've been encouraged to do under Enzo.

Enzo is just not going to tell the players to hit it over the top and chase it, most of the  long balls/passes will have been worked on in a structured way. There will be a trigger, when they do it.

 

Edited 4 November 2023 by smudger63

[Foxaholic ME]

6 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I think what this shows us, having lost to Liverpool and Leeds (and Hull) is that our league position IS more indicative of a very very poor Championship this season. 
We’ll bounce straight back up but serious investment will have to be made if we don’t want to come straight back down again. Particularly up top imo.

We will need to much improve on the striker situation.

I agree but surely worse last year look at the 3 promoted Burnley lost 3 only last year 

[splinterdream]

9 hours ago, Corky said:

Surprised he didn't change the wingers. Mavididi and Fatawu were excellent in the first half but faded  in the second (I know Fatawu set up the Dewsbury-Hall header) but maybe McAteer or Albrighton in the last 20 could have provided something different.

i said same thing, bet Marcel itching at the bit to show what he can do, thought it was worth sticking them in

[sacreblueits442]

13 hours ago, drofmor55 said:

Once again putting Vardy at the front edge ofthe 6 yard box at a corner has cost us a goal, he hasnt the height to carry out this role...this happened reguarly under BR and now under the new manager...it makes me wonder who is in charge of team tactics and do they even watch the replays of matches

...he does an excellent job for the team in that position!!!

I would rather have him up the pitch occupying the opposition's defenders, with Wilf and another player taking up the position.

[sacreblueits442]

13 hours ago, tickler28 said:

I'm starting to wonder if when Praet, Ndidi and Akgun are fit we should play with a false 9....that would give us ultimate control in midfield and Mavididi and Fattawu are then the goal threats. 

...I thought to an extent we do anyway, although with Vardy and Nacho dropping so deep it is ineffective!!!

We cannot rely on the wingers as our natural goal threat, they both do not produce, they flatter, but do not produce. So far McAteer seems to be the only one to have a proper effect with the scoreboard.

  I think Cannon will be used as an old-style forward, his heading ability will be what I believe gives us the numbers that we need. We are not too effective in the last third with the ball on the floor, so we will keep doing what we are doing and play to his strengths.

Edited 5 November 2023 by sacreblueits442
Spelling error.

[coolhandfox]

7 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

Arsenal using a tall player in the 8 position to play over a good out of possession team. If only we could have found such pragmatism…

Like we did against Sunderland with Casadei 

[fuchsntf]

9 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

I'd have had him taking that free kick Justin had in the 96th in 2093, never mind 2023.

 

9 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

JJ should have been nowhere near it.

 

Surely Winks would have been a better shout?

 

 

Just maybe.. Enzo wants to up responsibly in taking free kicks, no matter how important certain free kicks might be deemed from fans important. 

It's the building of the whole, from strong positions, giving freedom to cock up... 

Managers have different thoughts & agendas than the fans.. 

Sometimes we fall into the trap of over analyzing, dissecting everything and every action, far from the present managers vibes.. , 

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/persistent-leicester-city-problem-exposed-8884256

 

Persistent Leicester City problem exposed by Leeds United as alternative Enzo Maresca plan emerges
Analysis from Leicester City's 1-0 defeat to Leeds, looking at what went wrong, the start to the second half, Cesare Casadei's performance, the lack of subs, and more

ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 5 NOV 2023UPDATED07:50, 5 NOV 2023

Just as he did for the only other Championship game Leicester City have lost this season, Enzo Maresca emerged for his post-match press conference with a smile on his face.

He was satisfied with his side’s performance against Leeds, so there was little need for him to be angry or upset that the club’s record winning streak had come to an end. The result “is just small details”, he said.

So what were those small details that stopped City from making it 10 in a row? On the face of it, there was the width of a crossbar, a superb last-minute save, and some static set-piece defending.

 

But there’s more to it than that. Maresca argued that City deserved something from the game. A draw, maybe. But if either side merited victory, it was the visitors.

Leeds executed their gameplan more effectively, and more consistently, than City did. Their swift counter-attacks caused more danger than City’s more methodical approach. They were good.

It’s not that City were bad, but neither were they anywhere near the heights they have reached at points this season. They started both halves slowly, particularly the first period, where they played as if they had not anticipated Leeds being so aggressive nor pumped up for a top-of-the-table clash.

They didn’t make the most of their attacks when they did find gaps through the middle. They were hard to come by with Ethan Ampadu and Glen Kamara both performing well in front of Leeds’ back-line, but there were a few times where passes were slipped between them, particularly in the final 25 minutes of the first half, and City did not make enough of those openings.

Their best route to goal was down the flanks, where Stephy Mavididi and Abdul Fatawu were having plenty of joy up against their full-backs, both players recording season bests for their number of successful take-ons. But their crosses didn’t cause as much trouble as they should have.

This was not because they were poor balls into the box – albeit Fatawu did overhit a few to the far post – but rather because it felt like Jamie Vardy, Cesare Casadei, and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, as the striker and two number eights, weren’t sharp enough in the danger zone, or simply weren’t there at all. A devilish Mavididi ball across the six-yard box was begging for a Vardy finish, but he was stationary around the penalty spot. Another clipped cross looked like landing at Casadei’s feet, but he didn’t react quickly enough.

When the second half came, Fatawu and Mavididi’s influence had waned a little, so the extra bodies in the box didn’t get the service. Still, City’s best two late chances, a blocked Kelechi Iheanacho shot and Dewsbury-Hall’s last-gasp header, both came from Fatawu’s crosses. It was the route to go but City didn’t make best use of it.

Defensively, they actually marshalled Leeds’ counters pretty well, although they did need some excellent last-ditch defending from Ricardo Pereira in the first half. The set-up for the decisive corner and the reaction to the rebound were poor though.

So there was nothing drastically wrong with City’s performance. As Maresca said, it comes down to the “small details”. But if there are enough small details that aren’t quite right, City will lose matches, especially against the Championship’s better teams.

 

Leeds take advantage during City's problem period
While the start to the first half was worse for City in how slow their players were to react, in how dominant Leeds were, and in how often the visitors moved the ball into promising positions, it was the start to the second half that was more concerning. There have not been too many issues that have followed City through the first few months of the season, but their slow starts to the second period are one.

While City have a superb record in the final half-hour of matches, they always need time to warm up. Leeds were not the first team to catch them cold shortly after the interval.

Split matches into six 15-minute segments and the period between the 46th and 60th minutes is the only one where City have a negative record, scoring only one goal, and conceding three. No team has scored fewer in the 15 minutes after half-time than City, and even the one goal they did score – by Dewsbury-Hall against Preston – came about 30 seconds before the hour mark. While their three goals conceded is not a lot, it is the most they’ve let in during any 15-minute period. On Friday, six of Leeds’ 11 shots came during that period, including Georginio Rutter’s goal. At the other end, City mustered nothing.

Maresca was at a loss to explain: “First half and second half, they started better than us. The reason why, I don’t know, because we usually start in the right way. It can happen. But I think afterwards the reaction was very good.”

Perhaps City are too relaxed because they are fully aware of how good they are late in games. Their record after the hour mark reads 16 goals scored, none conceded. They can get away without being electric as soon as they re-emerge because they so often wear teams down and triumph late on. But good teams like Leeds will be able to withstand 30 minutes of pressure without giving much away.

It’s nitpicking of course, but it’s best to nip bad habits in the bud. If City get promoted, they can ill afford to be so slow out of the blocks in the second half in the Premier League.

icardo change hints at possible alternative plan
This was City’s biggest game of the season, and it looked too big an occasion for Cesare Casadei. It probably wasn’t the actual biggest game of his career so far – he captained his country in the Under-20 World Cup final a few months ago – but it felt like a game he wasn’t ready for.

Against Sunderland a week ago, he grew into the game and gave one of his best performances. Against Leeds, he was largely bypassed, struggling to get into the match. It may just have been inconsistency that comes with being a young player.

When City are attacking, his job as a number eight is to find space to receive the ball in the final third, connecting play and making himself a threat. In the attacking third, he had eight touches on Friday, two fewer than James Justin did, and he's a defender.

Had players been fit, Casadei probably wouldn’t have started all of the past three matches. In fact, he may not have started any of them if Maresca had Wilfred Ndidi, Dennis Praet, and Yunus Akgun to call on.

Although none of those players may be back next week, when City travel to Middlesbrough, an alternative has emerged. For the final 20 minutes, Maresca played Hamza Choudhury in the dual right-back-central-midfield position, and pushed Ricardo further forward into the number eight role.

It helped. Ricardo is one of City’s best technical operators, the Portuguese excellent in tight areas, and he has an attacking instinct too. Maybe he should stay in that role against Boro.

What City would miss is that his quick interchanges with Harry Winks deeper in midfield are both good at baiting the opposition’s press and good at getting them out of sticky situations and into attacking areas. Choudhury isn’t quite on the same level in that regard.

But without Ndidi available until after the international break, it may be a better option. It’s certainly something for Maresca to consider.

 

Maresca turns down fresh legs
If those players mentioned were fit, perhaps Maresca would have made more than two substitutions. Iheanacho came on as soon as the goal went in, and Choudhury replaced Casadei in the 67th minute, but no further changes were made in the final 20 minutes as City pushed for an equaliser.

Maresca didn’t feel it was necessary. He thought his team and the individuals were doing well enough that any substitution would be a change for change’s sake. Fair enough. There would have been an argument for bringing on Kasey McAteer with Fatawu’s influence appearing to die down, but the Ghanaian did then set up the Dewsbury-Hall chance at the death.

But it’s known that fresh legs do help. Giving tiring defenders a new player to think about, and an energetic one, can cause problems. So it feels like Maresca should want to make more changes.

If he feels like the drop-off in quality is too big between his starters and his subs that he doesn’t even get halfway to using his quota in a game where City are trailing, is that a concern? It suggests the squad is not quite where he wants it to be yet. Transfers next summer are inevitable, especially if City go up. But maybe there'll be a couple in January too.

Result was more important for Leeds
Even after nine wins in a row, a defeat still rankles. That feeling never goes away. Perhaps it feels worse because it’s come against Leeds, and there is a definite rivalry brewing between the clubs, even with a healthy gap between them in the division still.

That’s where the solace lies for City, in their 11-point cushion. This game was definitely more important for Leeds, and perhaps their performance showed that. The gap extending to 17 points would have been a bigger psychological blow for Leeds than it is for City seeing it come down to 11.

At their current rate, they will still finish with 119 points. So, more than ever, this loss is not a cause for concern. But it shows, if it wasn’t already known, that they’re not the complete package yet and that there are challengers who can hunt them down if they take their eye off the ball.

[Gamble92]

13 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

 

Just maybe.. Enzo wants to up responsibly in taking free kicks, no matter how important certain free kicks might be deemed from fans important. 

It's the building of the whole, from strong positions, giving freedom to cock up... 

Managers have different thoughts & agendas than the fans.. 

Sometimes we fall into the trap of over analyzing, dissecting everything and every action, far from the present managers vibes.. , 

Bet he never takes one again 

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

Bet he never takes one again 

Ok £20.000000000000000001.99

he does.

sending my details.

JJ investment branch

justin time dept.

freekick lane.

overshot

jamestown.

Gerin: 424,433.352.451gk

 

 

[fuchsntf]

10 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/persistent-leicester-city-problem-exposed-8884256

 

Persistent Leicester City problem exposed by Leeds United as alternative Enzo Maresca plan emerges
Analysis from Leicester City's 1-0 defeat to Leeds, looking at what went wrong, the start to the second half, Cesare Casadei's performance, the lack of subs, and more

ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 5 NOV 2023UPDATED07:50, 5 NOV 2023

Just as he did for the only other Championship game Leicester City have lost this season, Enzo Maresca emerged for his post-match press conference with a smile on his face.

He was satisfied with his side’s performance against Leeds, so there was little need for him to be angry or upset that the club’s record winning streak had come to an end. The result “is just small details”, he said.

So what were those small details that stopped City from making it 10 in a row? On the face of it, there was the width of a crossbar, a superb last-minute save, and some static set-piece defending.

 

But there’s more to it than that. Maresca argued that City deserved something from the game. A draw, maybe. But if either side merited victory, it was the visitors.

Leeds executed their gameplan more effectively, and more consistently, than City did. Their swift counter-attacks caused more danger than City’s more methodical approach. They were good.

It’s not that City were bad, but neither were they anywhere near the heights they have reached at points this season. They started both halves slowly, particularly the first period, where they played as if they had not anticipated Leeds being so aggressive nor pumped up for a top-of-the-table clash.

They didn’t make the most of their attacks when they did find gaps through the middle. They were hard to come by with Ethan Ampadu and Glen Kamara both performing well in front of Leeds’ back-line, but there were a few times where passes were slipped between them, particularly in the final 25 minutes of the first half, and City did not make enough of those openings.

Their best route to goal was down the flanks, where Stephy Mavididi and Abdul Fatawu were having plenty of joy up against their full-backs, both players recording season bests for their number of successful take-ons. But their crosses didn’t cause as much trouble as they should have.

This was not because they were poor balls into the box – albeit Fatawu did overhit a few to the far post – but rather because it felt like Jamie Vardy, Cesare Casadei, and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, as the striker and two number eights, weren’t sharp enough in the danger zone, or simply weren’t there at all. A devilish Mavididi ball across the six-yard box was begging for a Vardy finish, but he was stationary around the penalty spot. Another clipped cross looked like landing at Casadei’s feet, but he didn’t react quickly enough.

When the second half came, Fatawu and Mavididi’s influence had waned a little, so the extra bodies in the box didn’t get the service. Still, City’s best two late chances, a blocked Kelechi Iheanacho shot and Dewsbury-Hall’s last-gasp header, both came from Fatawu’s crosses. It was the route to go but City didn’t make best use of it.

Defensively, they actually marshalled Leeds’ counters pretty well, although they did need some excellent last-ditch defending from Ricardo Pereira in the first half. The set-up for the decisive corner and the reaction to the rebound were poor though.

So there was nothing drastically wrong with City’s performance. As Maresca said, it comes down to the “small details”. But if there are enough small details that aren’t quite right, City will lose matches, especially against the Championship’s better teams.

 

Leeds take advantage during City's problem period
While the start to the first half was worse for City in how slow their players were to react, in how dominant Leeds were, and in how often the visitors moved the ball into promising positions, it was the start to the second half that was more concerning. There have not been too many issues that have followed City through the first few months of the season, but their slow starts to the second period are one.

While City have a superb record in the final half-hour of matches, they always need time to warm up. Leeds were not the first team to catch them cold shortly after the interval.

Split matches into six 15-minute segments and the period between the 46th and 60th minutes is the only one where City have a negative record, scoring only one goal, and conceding three. No team has scored fewer in the 15 minutes after half-time than City, and even the one goal they did score – by Dewsbury-Hall against Preston – came about 30 seconds before the hour mark. While their three goals conceded is not a lot, it is the most they’ve let in during any 15-minute period. On Friday, six of Leeds’ 11 shots came during that period, including Georginio Rutter’s goal. At the other end, City mustered nothing.

Maresca was at a loss to explain: “First half and second half, they started better than us. The reason why, I don’t know, because we usually start in the right way. It can happen. But I think afterwards the reaction was very good.”

Perhaps City are too relaxed because they are fully aware of how good they are late in games. Their record after the hour mark reads 16 goals scored, none conceded. They can get away without being electric as soon as they re-emerge because they so often wear teams down and triumph late on. But good teams like Leeds will be able to withstand 30 minutes of pressure without giving much away.

It’s nitpicking of course, but it’s best to nip bad habits in the bud. If City get promoted, they can ill afford to be so slow out of the blocks in the second half in the Premier League.

icardo change hints at possible alternative plan
This was City’s biggest game of the season, and it looked too big an occasion for Cesare Casadei. It probably wasn’t the actual biggest game of his career so far – he captained his country in the Under-20 World Cup final a few months ago – but it felt like a game he wasn’t ready for.

Against Sunderland a week ago, he grew into the game and gave one of his best performances. Against Leeds, he was largely bypassed, struggling to get into the match. It may just have been inconsistency that comes with being a young player.

When City are attacking, his job as a number eight is to find space to receive the ball in the final third, connecting play and making himself a threat. In the attacking third, he had eight touches on Friday, two fewer than James Justin did, and he's a defender.

Had players been fit, Casadei probably wouldn’t have started all of the past three matches. In fact, he may not have started any of them if Maresca had Wilfred Ndidi, Dennis Praet, and Yunus Akgun to call on.

Although none of those players may be back next week, when City travel to Middlesbrough, an alternative has emerged. For the final 20 minutes, Maresca played Hamza Choudhury in the dual right-back-central-midfield position, and pushed Ricardo further forward into the number eight role.

It helped. Ricardo is one of City’s best technical operators, the Portuguese excellent in tight areas, and he has an attacking instinct too. Maybe he should stay in that role against Boro.

What City would miss is that his quick interchanges with Harry Winks deeper in midfield are both good at baiting the opposition’s press and good at getting them out of sticky situations and into attacking areas. Choudhury isn’t quite on the same level in that regard.

But without Ndidi available until after the international break, it may be a better option. It’s certainly something for Maresca to consider.

 

Maresca turns down fresh legs
If those players mentioned were fit, perhaps Maresca would have made more than two substitutions. Iheanacho came on as soon as the goal went in, and Choudhury replaced Casadei in the 67th minute, but no further changes were made in the final 20 minutes as City pushed for an equaliser.

Maresca didn’t feel it was necessary. He thought his team and the individuals were doing well enough that any substitution would be a change for change’s sake. Fair enough. There would have been an argument for bringing on Kasey McAteer with Fatawu’s influence appearing to die down, but the Ghanaian did then set up the Dewsbury-Hall chance at the death.

But it’s known that fresh legs do help. Giving tiring defenders a new player to think about, and an energetic one, can cause problems. So it feels like Maresca should want to make more changes.

If he feels like the drop-off in quality is too big between his starters and his subs that he doesn’t even get halfway to using his quota in a game where City are trailing, is that a concern? It suggests the squad is not quite where he wants it to be yet. Transfers next summer are inevitable, especially if City go up. But maybe there'll be a couple in January too.

Result was more important for Leeds
Even after nine wins in a row, a defeat still rankles. That feeling never goes away. Perhaps it feels worse because it’s come against Leeds, and there is a definite rivalry brewing between the clubs, even with a healthy gap between them in the division still.

That’s where the solace lies for City, in their 11-point cushion. This game was definitely more important for Leeds, and perhaps their performance showed that. The gap extending to 17 points would have been a bigger psychological blow for Leeds than it is for City seeing it come down to 11.

At their current rate, they will still finish with 119 points. So, more than ever, this loss is not a cause for concern. But it shows, if it wasn’t already known, that they’re not the complete package yet and that there are challengers who can hunt them down if they take their eye off the ball.

So Mr Blackwell,had a very boring weekend..This is the issue with Friday KO.

[Lesta2014]

I know it’s only a little snippet, but preseason training clips and the open training session did lots of moving the ball wide for a cut back. I feel like we haven’t perfected that yet when defenders are in play. Once that happens the goals will flow. 

[Lillehamring]

On 04/11/2023 at 19:47, smudger63 said:

What I'm trying to say is, the instances you are alluding too, they are long passes with a reason,  not just aimless balls for someone to chase for the sake of aimlessly chasing.

Often you will see the run about to be made before the pass. Something we were doing earlier in the season, was a long central pass, with mavadidi coming off of his wing into the centre, as the pass was made.

Of course, on the odd occasion the ball will be hoofed away, when the player with the ball is under extreme pressure, but even then, more often than not, they will risk trying to play their way out, because its what they've been encouraged to do under Enzo.

Enzo is just not going to tell the players to hit it over the top and chase it, most of the  long balls/passes will have been worked on in a structured way. There will be a trigger, when they do it.

 

Yes, i agree with you - i think you mistook my original comment to suggest aimless hoofing, i thought i clarified it in my second post.

 

The reason i suggested to play these smart direct balls to daka is because, vardy ain't quick enough now, and nacho is no good playing over the top to.  I'm not advocating changing everything, but just when we know we're going to play teams that press (like Leeds and sunderland) maybe these are the games to let daka have a run out, to take advantage of the counter attacking possibilities - be that fast flowing passes, or direct balls into the space behind the defenders.  In these last two games we've not taken advantage of the opportunity to counter attack....

[Lillehamring]

16 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

 

Just maybe.. Enzo wants to up responsibly in taking free kicks, no matter how important certain free kicks might be deemed from fans important. 

It's the building of the whole, from strong positions, giving freedom to cock up... 

Managers have different thoughts & agendas than the fans.. 

Sometimes we fall into the trap of over analyzing, dissecting everything and every action, far from the present managers vibes.. , 

Hardly think that was the time to experiment - and of all people Justin who had misplaced numerous passes throughout the game.

 

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Lesta2014 said:

I know it’s only a little snippet, but preseason training clips and the open training session did lots of moving the ball wide for a cut back. I feel like we haven’t perfected that yet when defenders are in play. Once that happens the goals will flow. 

...all of that seems to have gone out the window!!!

The only player that I have seen who gets in a good position and delivers a ball where he has thought about it is Ndidi. The wingers can't, they should be creating multiple chances for incoming #8s but they struggle to get anything of worth for us to capitalise on.

  The assessment from @StriderHiryu at the start of the season was for us to look out for the ball from the byeline and cut back for attackers in the box. We are not seeing it at the moment, balls are being played across the face of the goal where inevitably they are blocked. They are both predictable, need to do a trick or something whilst in the box, far too easy to read.

[SafewayFox]

11 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...all of that seems to have gone out the window!!!

The only player that I have seen who gets in a good position and delivers a ball where he has thought about it is Ndidi. The wingers can't, they should be creating multiple chances for incoming #8s but they struggle to get anything of worth for us to capitalise on.

  The assessment from @StriderHiryu at the start of the season was for us to look out for the ball from the byeline and cut back for attackers in the box. We are not seeing it at the moment, balls are being played across the face of the goal where inevitably they are blocked. They are both predictable, need to do a trick or something whilst in the box, far too easy to read.

To be fair, Enzo has numerous times said about the importance of KDH and his number 8’s arriving late in the box or they won’t have the opportunity to score.

 

Against Leeds neither KDH or Casadei made runs into the box so not sure what they were instructed to do in that game, maybe we feared their pace on the counter but we definitely didn’t play our natural game when look back on it.

 

A week on the training ground practicing what to do when our wingers have the ball and up against a FB surely will happen this week as we were extremely wasteful in this position on Friday night.

[Gamble92]

3 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Ok £20.000000000000000001.99

he does.

sending my details.

JJ investment branch

justin time dept.

freekick lane.

overshot

jamestown.

Gerin: 424,433.352.451gk

 

 

What pub you in?

[honeybradger]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

To be fair, Enzo has numerous times said about the importance of KDH and his number 8’s arriving late in the box or they won’t have the opportunity to score.

 

Against Leeds neither KDH or Casadei made runs into the box so not sure what they were instructed to do in that game, maybe we feared their pace on the counter but we definitely didn’t play our natural game when look back on it.

 

A week on the training ground practicing what to do when our wingers have the ball and up against a FB surely will happen this week as we were extremely wasteful in this position on Friday night.

Dewsbury hall made some runs into the box in the second half but the passes didnt find him. The movement was too predictable.

[Lesta2014]

9 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...all of that seems to have gone out the window!!!

The only player that I have seen who gets in a good position and delivers a ball where he has thought about it is Ndidi. The wingers can't, they should be creating multiple chances for incoming #8s but they struggle to get anything of worth for us to capitalise on.

  The assessment from @StriderHiryu at the start of the season was for us to look out for the ball from the byeline and cut back for attackers in the box. We are not seeing it at the moment, balls are being played across the face of the goal where inevitably they are blocked. They are both predictable, need to do a trick or something whilst in the box, far too easy to read.

Wonder if it’s changed due to the number of players opposition have back in the box? The pull back works when you break the lines quicker as defenders aren’t in position. Having a winger run at full back to the bye line when the defenders are already on edge of 18 yard box when they receive the ball doesn’t really allow for the cut back. Fatawu goal at Swansea was a cut back and Ndidi was there for it too, more goals like this please 

[StriderHiryu]

 

Super cool video from the guy that makes the Football Meta videos I post here sometimes. Shows you how training sessions are devised to try to create patterns of play and defensive blocks.

 

Regarding the talks of cut-backs and patterns of play. You can't learn them all at once! Take a look at this break down of the chance creation methods used by Man City:
https://spielverlagerung.com/2020/09/21/analysing-manchester-citys-attack-chance-creation-methods/

 

Look how many there are! And they have since added more to their arsenal with new players being added to the squad. You have to give Enzo time, his way of working has a huge ceiling and potential, but might be a bit lacklustre early doors. That we have already made such a great start under his tenure is amazing. Look at the length of time it took Pep, Klopp and Arteta before their teams really started to get good... these things don't happen overnight.

[sacreblueits442]

5 hours ago, Lesta2014 said:

Wonder if it’s changed due to the number of players opposition have back in the box? The pull back works when you break the lines quicker as defenders aren’t in position. Having a winger run at full back to the bye line when the defenders are already on edge of 18 yard box when they receive the ball doesn’t really allow for the cut back. Fatawu goal at Swansea was a cut back and Ndidi was there for it too, more goals like this please 

...if you are at the byline and the defence is now a yard away from the keeper, they have to be, to cover the space for a potential tap-in!!!

where an attacking player should be, would be around the penalty spot. The defenders are already crowding the 6-yard box.