EFL Officiating Abomination Journal 23/24

[Reg Vardy]

The linesman gave it, Pawson had no option but to back him……without VAR, if he overrules the linesman he is not following the rules….

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

I can understand why the goal was disallowed, imagine it looked like Hamza got contact on the ball before falling to Daka. 

 

The yellow was absolutely laughable though.

Why's the linesman flagging if he can't see who touched the ball, because if he has any view at all of that from where he is, it probably looks more like Rutter has touched it anyway.

[Tommy Fresh]

2 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

The linesman gave it, Pawson had no option but to back him……without VAR, if he overrules the linesman he is not following the rules….

They are allowed to talk and decide who the last touch came off, pretty sure I've seen refs do this.

[FrankieADZ]

3 games in a row where we've had so called "premier league" officials and my god they've been awful

 

its really hard to remotely respect the officials when they are so inconsistent 

[Lillehamring]

33 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

3 games in a row where we've had so called "premier league" officials and my god they've been awful

 

its really hard to remotely respect the officials when they are so inconsistent 

Thought he was alright tonight.  No 'bad' decisions, and a lot of tactical fouling that he had to punish,

[CosbehFox]

Seemed to allow shirt pulling as part of the game 

[CheeseHead]

2 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

Thought he was alright tonight.  No 'bad' decisions, and a lot of tactical fouling that he had to punish,

He missed a blatant pull on Ricardo which let them on the break. Even the commentators thought it was an obvious foul. Ref was right there as well, shocker of a decision which thankfully didn't lead to anything

[Lillehamring]

21 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Seemed to allow shirt pulling as part of the game 

 

20 hours ago, CheeseHead said:

He missed a blatant pull on Ricardo which let them on the break. Even the commentators thought it was an obvious foul. Ref was right there as well, shocker of a decision which thankfully didn't lead to anything

Allowing a bit of shirt pulling doesn't make him 'awful'.  Especially if he calls it the same for both teams.

Considering how bad the other PL refs have been, i think i'm happy to give Tierney a 'pass' - at the end of the day, he didn't do anything to make the game about him.

[CheeseHead]

1 hour ago, Lillehamring said:

 

Allowing a bit of shirt pulling doesn't make him 'awful'.  Especially if he calls it the same for both teams.

Considering how bad the other PL refs have been, i think i'm happy to give Tierney a 'pass' - at the end of the day, he didn't do anything to make the game about him.

It wasn't some shirt pull lost in the melee of the penalty box at a set piece, it was a blatant pulling back of Ricardo in an open midfield right in front of the ref, giving them a breakaway opportunity. Not saying he was terrible all game but that was an absolute shocker of a decision from a professional referee. You have to know what foul play is, otherwise you are not doing your job, or you just aren't good enough at your job.

[CheeseHead]

And what really riles me, they clamp right down on the merest of handballs because you are not supposed to use your hands to gain an advantage right? Yet the amount of fouling and cheating allowed by referees through the use of hands on an opponent in a holding or pulling manner is unforgivable (imo!).

[Lillehamring]

2 hours ago, CheeseHead said:

It wasn't some shirt pull lost in the melee of the penalty box at a set piece, it was a blatant pulling back of Ricardo in an open midfield right in front of the ref, giving them a breakaway opportunity. Not saying he was terrible all game but that was an absolute shocker of a decision from a professional referee. You have to know what foul play is, otherwise you are not doing your job, or you just aren't good enough at your job.

It couldn't have been that bad as i have no recollection of it.

 

If you want refs that blow up at every tug or push, best of british to you.  personally, the fewer calls the better is how i like my officials.

[CheeseHead]

8 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

It couldn't have been that bad as i have no recollection of it.

 

If you want refs that blow up at every tug or push, best of british to you.  personally, the fewer calls the better is how i like my officials.

Sounds like you were about as attentive as the ref watching the game 

[Foxmeister]

On 25/02/2024 at 18:22, Reg Vardy said:

The linesman gave it, Pawson had no option but to back him……without VAR, if he overrules the linesman he is not following the rules….

Refs make the final decision but it would have been a big call to over rule him. It's annoying after seeing the replays but my initial reaction was it was offside.

[Xen]

15 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

It couldn't have been that bad as i have no recollection of it.

 

If you want refs that blow up at every tug or push, best of british to you.  personally, the fewer calls the better is how i like my officials.

It was blatant, and directly led to a 3-on-2 against 2 slow defenders which, frankly, Bournemouth should've done much better with.

 

Luckily for you, replays on iplayer are easy to come by...

[StanSP]

11 minutes ago, Xen said:

It was blatant, and directly led to a 3-on-2 against 2 slow defenders which, frankly, Bournemouth should've done much better with.

 

Luckily for you, replays on iplayer are easy to come by...

I just can't fathom how not one of the refs saw that. Not even like Ricardo had some of their played shirt either to call it 50.

Would have been a travesty if that resulted in a goal for them. 

[davieG]

58 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I just can't fathom how not one of the refs saw that. Not even like Ricardo had some of their played shirt either to call it 50.

Would have been a travesty if that resulted in a goal for them. 

VAR would have helped if they'd scored or maybe not.

[Lillehamring]

7 hours ago, Xen said:

It was blatant, and directly led to a 3-on-2 against 2 slow defenders which, frankly, Bournemouth should've done much better with.

 

Luckily for you, replays on iplayer are easy to come by...

Yeah, that's a foul - but again, does that make him 'awful' - does every decision have to be spot on to lift a ref's performance above awful?

[FOXSE]

4 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

Yeah, that's a foul - but again, does that make him 'awful' - does every decision have to be spot on to lift a ref's performance above awful?

Fatawu knocked the ball on and got pulled back, nothing given. Even keown was surprised. Then there was right near the end, when akgun got shoved to the ground then Ricardo got fouled..... nothing. There was actually quite a lot of Bournemouth players generally pushing our players in the back, non of which were spotted....

[ozleicester]

7 hours ago, Xen said:

It was blatant, and directly led to a 3-on-2 against 2 slow defenders which, frankly, Bournemouth should've done much better with.

 

Luckily for you, replays on iplayer are easy to come by...

Looks like the ref was a fair distance away and behind the actual foul/tackle... i doubt from his position he could see the tug

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/enzo-maresca-questions-referee-promotions-9137508

 

Enzo Maresca questions referee promotions and fumes over decisions in three Leicester City games
Following an incorrect offside call against Leeds, Enzo Maresca said his team had been on the end of costly decisions in three important matches, citing moments against Coventry and Ipswich too

ByJordan Blackwell
22:30, 1 MAR 2024

Enzo Maresca has questioned the promotion and demotion of referees and the use of Premier League officials in the Championship after deeming that poor decisions have cost his team in important games.

The Leicester City manager did not hold back in his assessment of the refereeing system, asking why Craig Pawson would be allowed to take charge of Premier League matches after what he believes was a mistake in City’s loss to Leeds last Friday. Patson Daka turned in a rebound at a corner in the second half to put City 2-0 up, but was wrongly called offside, with Maresca’s team going on to lose 3-1.

Although that was the assistant referee’s decision, Maresca was perplexed as to why Pawson would be allowed to then take charge of top-flight matches. Pawson was in charge at Anfield in midweek for Liverpool’s FA Cup tie against Southampton and is due to referee Everton against West Ham in the Premier League this weekend.

 

It wasn’t just at Leeds where Maresca felt his side were wronged. He also felt that his side should have had a penalty in the draw at Ipswich on Boxing Day for Cameron Burgess’s barge on Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, while he also appealed another spot-kick in the loss to Coventry in January, as well as a second booking for Kasey Palmer.

“We had a normal goal that they disallowed,” Maresca said at his press conference on Friday, reflecting on the loss to Leeds. “It was a normal goal. It’s already happened this season many times that in a crucial moment, we had a bad decision from the referee that cost us points.

“It happened at Ipswich away, when there should have been a penalty when we were 1-0 up. It happened at Coventry away when there was a handball inside the box but no penalty. In the second half, there should have been a second yellow card, but there was no booking.

“Those are crucial moments. The other day, the goal I feel was quite normal and then it’s 2-0 away. They are crucial moments where the referees cost us points.

“I’m not complaining about referees because I can make a mistake. I make a mistake every game. But the system is not good because our referee against Leeds, after a few days, he was in the Premier League. How is that the system? You make a mistake and two or three days you are in the Premier League? I think the system is not the correct one.

“The referees can make mistakes for sure, everyone makes mistakes. But the system behind that is wrong, because if you make a mistake and then after two days go into the Premier League, there is something that is not working well. This is what I think.

“Yes, we respect everyone, but we deserve respect because in crucial moments this year, many times it happens against us. The three games I mentioned are important games. Ipswich away, Leeds away, Coventry away? Important games, yes.

“Everyone can make mistakes, it’s not a problem. It is the system that I struggle to understand. How can you make a clear mistake on Sky television in front of all the people and then after two days you are in charge of a Premier League game?”

Maresca’s other bone of contention is that referees who drop from the Premier League to officiate Championship matches are used to having VAR to help them. As a result, they are struggling without it.

He said: “Then every time a Premier League referee drops, probably because they are used to VAR… The game against Middlesbrough, the first goal, with VAR it’s no goal because there is a clear foul against JJ (James Justin).

“I am not talking bad about referees. I’m just saying that if you are used to working every game with VAR and suddenly you don’t use VAR, you struggle. It’s not a referee problem. If every day I use VAR and then I go into a game where VAR is not there, I will struggle.”

 

[UniFox21]

Enzo does have a great point there. Irrelevant of the decisions, why are Prem officials who become reliant on VAR are then being brought into the championship and expected to officiate big games without it?  

Makes no sense, and conveniently we've had several huge decisions go against us because of it

[notnow john]

On 29/02/2024 at 00:27, Lillehamring said:

It couldn't have been that bad as i have no recollection of it.

 

If you want refs that blow up at every tug or push, best of british to you.  personally, the fewer calls the better is how i like my officials.

You know where Welford road is, right!

[Trumpet]

Yunus defying gravity there according to the referee.

[Muzzy_no7]

No shock that the QPR goal was clearly offside and scored by someone who should be eating Porridge in Belgium. 

[Fazzer 7]

FFS