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Trav Le Bleu

Also In The News - part 3

By Trav Le Bleu, in General Chat

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FoyleFox

FoyleFox

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11 hours ago, MPH said:

Something a little bit more lighthearted 

 

 

Man who has a suspended license calls into his zoom meeting with his judge whilst driving…

 

 

 

That's as 'good' as Katie Price joining her bankruptcy hearing via Zoom, whilst on holiday in the Maldives. 

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David Hankey

David Hankey

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12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Anyone spot the irony from the 2016 campaign where trump and his supporters used to chant ‘lock her up’ about ‘crooked hilary ‘ ? 

Yes, I did. The only thing to say about Trump is that he is deranged.

st albans fox

st albans fox

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1 hour ago, Torquay Gunner said:

More likely some sort of probation/community service.  I would like to see him pick up litter on Times Square.

It would be the best litter picking ever 

the world would not have seen litter picking of such an incredible standard 

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Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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6 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It would be the best litter picking ever 

the world would not have seen litter picking of such an incredible standard 

I think Bob De Niro would cheering him on from the side lines! 😭

kingkisnorbo

kingkisnorbo

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Don’t really get the jubilation around the trump verdict. His punishment is well known to be nothing more than a relative slap on the wrist and has boosted his election campaign significantly. 

Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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11 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Don’t really get the jubilation around the trump verdict. His punishment is well known to be nothing more than a relative slap on the wrist and has boosted his election campaign significantly. 

The jubilation is because Trump is quite unpopular outside his maga base. The fact that he is now a felon is another ‘first’ for him. Only time will tell how much this affects the election.  

Brizzle Fox

Brizzle Fox

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2 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

The jubilation is because Trump is quite unpopular outside his maga base. The fact that he is now a felon is another ‘first’ for him. Only time will tell how much this affects the election.  

I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for the more moderate Republican base who were still planning to hold their noses and vote for orange man.

 

Even if this is a relatively small % it could be enough to swing the balance to Biden, in what will be a very close election.

MPH

MPH

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15 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

The jubilation is because Trump is quite unpopular outside his maga base. The fact that he is now a felon is another ‘first’ for him. Only time will tell how much this affects the election.  


 

from what I can see from some of those around me here in North Carolina, it’s going to increase his vote. I know quite a few independents and Libertarians   who are saying they will now vote for him, Not because  they like Trump or support him, but because they see this as politically motivated and government overreach. Please don’t mistake this comment as agreeing with them but  people have to really understand the mindset of some Americans and the cultural differences - their constitution plays a massive part in their lives and thinking/ foundation  and they see that the government  as administrative only and  the police as Authoritative and should be more  ‘ protect and serve’. They believe, because of the constitution that ‘ we the people’ are the government.
 

it’s all very mind boggling to me, and I live here!  The irony of what they say, when voting for Trump is lost on them.
 

 

in short, they see this as politically motivated and feel this is a sign the current government is getting too big and that’s enough  for them to want to vote out the democrats wether they like them or not. So in England , we would see this massive  increase in vote for ‘ Donald Trump’ and we would see it as an increase in his fan base, but it’s not that at all, there’s other factors that they would see as more important that would motivate them to vote for someone.of course, the media will show the MAGA hats and the crazies in the same breath as talking about the increase in ‘Trump support’  and  there soon becomes a situation where those outside of America believe everyone who votes for trump likes him, and that isn’t the case.

 

anyway, this probably comes across as an incoherent rambling that doesn’t make much sense and that’s exactly what it is because I’m trying to get ready for work lol

Daggers

Daggers

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1 hour ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Don’t really get the jubilation around the trump verdict. His punishment is well known to be nothing more than a relative slap on the wrist and has boosted his election campaign significantly. 

33% are going to vote for him harder. It’s the 25% who might have voted for him, the ones who don’t consume Gatorade everyday, they are now going to think about whether they can vote for a convicted man who ****s porn stars with his tiny, pathetic d1ck. 

st albans fox

st albans fox

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54 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for the more moderate Republican base who were still planning to hold their noses and vote for orange man.

 

Even if this is a relatively small % it could be enough to swing the balance to Biden, in what will be a very close election.

They would probably not vote rather than out an x in the Biden box 

Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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36 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

from what I can see from some of those around me here in North Carolina, it’s going to increase his vote. I know quite a few independents and Libertarians   who are saying they will now vote for him, Not because  they like Trump or support him, but because they see this as politically motivated and government overreach. Please don’t mistake this comment as agreeing with them but  people have to really understand the mindset of some Americans and the cultural differences - their constitution plays a massive part in their lives and thinking/ foundation  and they see that the government  as administrative only and  the police as Authoritative and should be more  ‘ protect and serve’. They believe, because of the constitution that ‘ we the people’ are the government.
 

it’s all very mind boggling to me, and I live here!  The irony of what they say, when voting for Trump is lost on them.
 

 

in short, they see this as politically motivated and feel this is a sign the current government is getting too big and that’s enough  for them to want to vote out the democrats wether they like them or not. So in England , we would see this massive  increase in vote for ‘ Donald Trump’ and we would see it as an increase in his fan base, but it’s not that at all, there’s other factors that they would see as more important that would motivate them to vote for someone.of course, the media will show the MAGA hats and the crazies in the same breath as talking about the increase in ‘Trump support’  and  there soon becomes a situation where those outside of America believe everyone who votes for trump likes him, and that isn’t the case.

 

anyway, this probably comes across as an incoherent rambling that doesn’t make much sense and that’s exactly what it is because I’m trying to get ready for work lol

That’s an interesting perception, particularly as you are living out there.  I would like to ask these independents/libertarians how would they see Trump’s second presidential term of office playing out.  You mentioned ‘government overreach’ but they may prefer to vote for a man who admires totalitarian leaders.  It is clear from what Trump has said that he would like to make the government in his own image, that would include seeking retribution against news media that he doesn’t like, rolling back of LGBTQ and other civil rights and we know his extreme views on immigration.  This would seem to be total anathema to the Libertarian party.

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bovril

bovril

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2 hours ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Don’t really get the jubilation around the trump verdict. His punishment is well known to be nothing more than a relative slap on the wrist and has boosted his election campaign significantly. 

I'm waiting for Trump to expire on live TV while out campaigning and people to say it's boosted his election campaign. 

MPH

MPH

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57 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

That’s an interesting perception, particularly as you are living out there.  I would like to ask these independents/libertarians how would they see Trump’s second presidential term of office playing out.  You mentioned ‘government overreach’ but they may prefer to vote for a man who admires totalitarian leaders.  It is clear from what Trump has said that he would like to make the government in his own image, that would include seeking retribution against news media that he doesn’t like, rolling back of LGBTQ and other civil rights and we know his extreme views on immigration.  This would seem to be total anathema to the Libertarian party.

I know.. i know....

 

And i have questioned this and the reply that comes back to me is that they prefer each state to make their own laws rather than most laws to be done federally as they say to me that this would be more in line  with the constitution. They believe Trump would support that. They say things like  the  Constitution of the United States divides the federal government into three branches. Legislative, executive and judicial.  This ensures that no individual or group will have too much power, apparently. They are against the central federal government having all the power. This is partly why some people vote for a federal abortion ban , for example who might not be 100% against abortion. They want that power and decision make devolved down to the individual state. They feel this is a fundamental principle that is very important to them. and i Do see some of their points in that - the USA is such a massive country that there are some very culturally diverse states.  I live in North Carolina, and even that is bigger than England. and there's 48 mainland states of course and North Carolina isn't anywhere near the biggest state at all.. Northern states can be very different to some of the southern States, hence the desire for people to see the power devolved down to state level.

 

That's really just an example. sorry at work.

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