Cooper - OUT

[bovril]

1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Left to cool down for 30 mins before drinking. Wouldn't want to risk it drinking it hot.

Goes round for hours holding a costa cup, just looking at things and saying "y'right?" weakly to colleagues before walking off to photocopy something. 

[Trent Steel]

On 16/10/2024 at 20:30, Chrysalis said:

People wont like this I guess.

 

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2024/10/premier-league-predictions-2024-25-opta-supercomputer-october

i like it

[Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12]

4 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

The problem with Cooper is you can say he was preferred at Swansea, did a good job at Forest but it's how he's performing with us now. 

 

I don't go into my appraisal and say how great I was doing 2 or 3 years ago - my employer wants to know the value I'm adding over the last 6 months. 

 

The only conclusion you can draw from all of Cooper's work so far and his continued application for the job is it is hugely sub standard.

 

The last game we won with a lot of good luck (which I appreciate you need) and was despite of the clown 

 

I appreciate we see things differently but seriously this guy is absolutely useless. 

Don’t you think useless is a little harsh? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not convinced, we haven’t put in a 90 minute performance and have generally started games badly, but useless I think is too harsh. He came in expecting the worst points deduction ever and operated in a window with that hanging over. If we finish where we are now we would be delighted no? 

[CrazyKopCorner]

8 minutes ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

Don’t you think useless is a little harsh? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not convinced, we haven’t put in a 90 minute performance and have generally started games badly, but useless I think is too harsh. He came in expecting the worst points deduction ever and operated in a window with that hanging over. If we finish where we are now we would be delighted no? 

No, I'm struggling to think of one thing he's brought to the team and the club - I'd actually say totally useless.

 

I'm at the point of anyone but Cooper - He seriously needs to get his act together. 

[sharpylcfc]

Been really enjoying no football now back to the absolute snorefest that is Steve Cooper football. Can't wait for the day he leaves, hopefully this weekend if we lose. 

[Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12]

Maresca passed too much and was boring, Cooper is useless, sorry what are we after? 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

Maresca passed too much and was boring, Cooper is useless, sorry what are we after? 

Something Else.

[Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Something Else.

And therein lies the problem. Everyone knows what they don’t want but no one knows what they want. Who’s a realistic, better manager than Cooper put there right now who would take the job, bearing in mind we probably can’t afford to buy out contracts? 

[Dahnsouff]

11 minutes ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

And therein lies the problem. Everyone knows what they don’t want but no one knows what they want. Who’s a realistic, better manager than Cooper put there right now who would take the job, bearing in mind we probably can’t afford to buy out contracts? 

Don’t think he is many peoples first choice, but he is here now, perhaps due to lack of better options,  we are doing ok. 
Agree that statistically we are risking far too much and that may well cause us to come undone, but as we have bypassed the ideal window for a (oh so unlikely) change, might as well support him.
 

Edited 18 October 2024 by Dahnsouff

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

And therein lies the problem. Everyone knows what they don’t want but no one knows what they want. Who’s a realistic, better manager than Cooper put there right now who would take the job, bearing in mind we probably can’t afford to buy out contracts? 

Being able to produce a list of realistic replacements isn't a prerequisite for wanting Cooper - or any manager - gone though. I am a humble football fan who thinks Cooper is shit, not a director of football with a big contact book and the resources of a Premier League club at my disposal. It's a bit like how in January '23 I didn't have a big long list of quality goalkeepers who I was confident would sign for us, yet I think it would have been pretty reasonable of me to say I wanted us to sack Ward off and get someone better in.

 

I think you are completely right in your previous post in that almost all of us would happily take finishing 15th  - my concern is that I don't think our current level of performance extrapolated over the course of the season sees us finishing that high, nor have I been given any reason to believe that level is going to increase to any significant degree.

[winteriscoming]

1 hour ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

And therein lies the problem. Everyone knows what they don’t want but no one knows what they want. Who’s a realistic, better manager than Cooper put there right now who would take the job, bearing in mind we probably can’t afford to buy out contracts? 

Here we go again…..
Niko Kovac 

Rudi Garcia 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceicao 

Edin Terzic 

All readily available. 

 

[Jimmy]

13 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Here we go again…..
Niko Kovac 

Rudi Garcia 

Roger Schmidt 

Sergio Conceicao 

Edin Terzic 

All readily available. 

 

and what makes you think any of them would come to us in a relegation scrap, everything we did pre relegation means nothing to them, we are a newly promoted team with an average, at best, squad.

[Gazza M]

What are people going to do if we are comfortable mid table after this run of fixtures? Still demand Coreban or Potter. I hope Cooper proves some people wrong. If he messes up I will rightly criticise but still backing the guy at the minute. 

[winteriscoming]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

and what makes you think any of them would come to us in a relegation scrap, everything we did pre relegation means nothing to them, we are a newly promoted team with an average, at best, squad.

Why not? 
Nuno went wolves in the championship. 
Bielsa went Leeds in the championship. 
Benitez went Newcastle in a relegation scrap. 
Why do we have to put ourselves in a bubble that we’re in a relegation scrap? The longer Cooper is here we will be. 
There are a lot of poor sides in this league. Imo we could finish between 15th and 12th. With Cooper we won’t. 
If Palace and West Ham can get a Europa league winning managers I can’t see why we can’t at least look at these managers who are readily available. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

23 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

and what makes you think any of them would come to us in a relegation scrap, everything we did pre relegation means nothing to them, we are a newly promoted team with an average, at best, squad.

What position were Villa in when they got Emery?

 

Edit, they were 14th, 3 points above the relegation zone...

Edited 18 October 2024 by Sol thewall Bamba

[Unabomber]

2 hours ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

Maresca passed too much and was boring, Cooper is useless, sorry what are we after? 

Enzo was class 

[Plastik Man]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

and what makes you think any of them would come to us in a relegation scrap, everything we did pre relegation means nothing to them, we are a newly promoted team with an average, at best, squad.

Absolute bull. 

 

Plenty of reasons why decent european managers are attracted to the premier league. 

 

And our recent history does matter. It gives an indication of the clubs aspirations and the backing a manager will get.

 

You're entitled to your opinion of course. But that's all it is.

 

With your attitude we may as well give up now!

 

[Muzzy_no7]

“Every team in the PL has a style of play” -Steve Cooper, October 2024.

 

Sorry Poops, WTF is ours then?! 

[tcrofts]

15 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

“Every team in the PL has a style of play” -Steve Cooper, October 2024.

 

Sorry Poops, WTF is ours then?! 

Made me chuckle when he said that

[SecretPro]

4 hours ago, Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 said:

Maresca passed too much and was boring, Cooper is useless, sorry what are we after? 

Maresca was fine. Wasn't boring for me, I love the tactical side of football and IMO it was infinitely better on the eye than this shit.

[SecretPro]

2 hours ago, Gazza M said:

What are people going to do if we are comfortable mid table after this run of fixtures? Still demand Coreban or Potter. I hope Cooper proves some people wrong. If he messes up I will rightly criticise but still backing the guy at the minute. 

Then I'll become like the majority on here who for some unknown reason moaned ****ing week in week out about Marescas football despite us being top of the league all year. 

 

If we are midtable with Cooperball then I still won't be enjoying because it's hideous.

[Dan]

12 hours ago, ealingfox said:

Consider the stars aligning.

 

 

 

Italian manager who is coming out of a poor international job? Not for me. Would never work here.

[Royston.]

Edited 18 October 2024 by Royston.

[Royston.]

13 hours ago, ealingfox said:

Consider the stars aligning.

 

that sign is incorrect, spelled Cooper wrong

 

 

[Royston.]

I would guess our board are satisfied with the job Cooper is doing, this season was always going to be tough/handicapped in the transfer market but we havent been thrashed (yet)

not in the relegation zone, still in the Carabao and we've won a league match

 

i also guess they give a shit about playing style and tactics or lack thereof....