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Dunge

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With regard to private schools:

 

I have nothing against going private for things if that’s how someone chooses to use their wealth, be that education, health, etc.

What I don’t understand is why they (private schools) should have a tax break for it. Removing it seems to me simply like reverting to a fairer system.

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Lionator

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2 hours ago, SecretPro said:

I think the most shocking thing which quickly becomes apparent from the book is that it does testify to the fact that Neoliberasim isn't a choice of Government, it's the choice of a small number of conglomerates and billionaires who basically lobby the Government into neoliberalist policy through a series of lies and manipulation (and backhanders or vested interests). Some of these 'thinktank' organisations at the heart of pushing Neoliberalism are now held at the heart of everything we do and Governments and the Media hold them up as the authority on a given subject, where the reality is the 'thinktank' was literally set up with the goal of pushing neoliberalist policy and lobbying Governements - such as the Institute of Economic Affairs - which are often quoted on BBC news and similar with 'factual' economic information (the names usually sound very official and authoritative but the reality is they are just an extreme lobbying group and everything they say is contrived to push neoliberal economic policy for the benefit of those behind the thinktank). The same mysterious thinktanks are at the heart of Climate Change denial, so we are being screwed twice over.

 

The book does a good job of linking all these 'institutes' and 'thinktanks' back to a very small number of neo-liberal billionaires and corporates.


In the end, it isn't Governments making fiscal policy at all...it's a couple of Billionaires hiding behind thinktanks. It's frightening.

Yes that’s the plot of hypernormalisation where he talks about the government of New York handing over complete power to the banks in 1975

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reporterpenguin

reporterpenguin

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19 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Awful..:(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2mrg8jg10o

 

Indeed. 
 

I live rurally and my dog’s favourite walkies route goes through a field that often contains cows. I’ll very rarely venture into a field with cattle in, they’re beautiful animals and generally very docile and friendly, but stories like this are common enough that the risk of one getting a bit boisterous isn’t worth taking. I’ll stand at the gate and give them a nose scratch which is enough to recognise the danger of their size and speed. 
 

It often results in quite the disagreement between me and a very stubborn Jack Russell when we don’t go through that field… 

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jgtuk

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6 minutes ago, reporterpenguin said:

Indeed. 
 

I live rurally and my dog’s favourite walkies route goes through a field that often contains cows. I’ll very rarely venture into a field with cattle in, they’re beautiful animals and generally very docile and friendly, but stories like this are common enough that the risk of one getting a bit boisterous isn’t worth taking. I’ll stand at the gate and give them a nose scratch which is enough to recognise the danger of their size and speed. 
 

It often results in quite the disagreement between me and a very stubborn Jack Russell when we don’t go through that field… 

I’m in the process of replacing 600m of stock fencing to stop the cattle breaking into my garden. Had a few sheep in but they go straight back the way they came without a problem but the cattle just go wherever they want and it’s difficult and dangerous to march them back along my drive to the gate. I use a quad to round them up and push them. 

bovril

bovril

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44 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Telegraph reporting that Alec Salmon died whilst opening a bottle of tomato sauce. 

I was writing out a humorous reply to this about Salmond claiming Macedonia's economy would 'catch up' with the rest of the Balkans, and then chickened out because I thought it'd be bad Karma.

 

Religious upbringing...

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Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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58 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

The US now desperately trying to reign Israel in, though I fear it's far too late.

Biden and his administration have been totally ineffective throughout this entire disaster. 

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Jattdogg

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11 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Biden and his administration have been totally ineffective throughout this entire disaster. 

Absolutely useless and poor leadership by Biden.

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WigstonWanderer

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10 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Telegraph reporting that Alec Salmon died whilst opening a bottle of tomato sauce. 

TBF they are sometimes very difficult to open these days. Getting that sealing bit off certainly raises my blood pressure.

Paninistickers

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2 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

TBF they are sometimes very difficult to open these days. Getting that sealing bit off certainly raises my blood pressure.

The mind boggles what Salmon was eating in North Macedonia to require him to need tomato sauce.

 

Or was it an item permanently on his rider? Did salmon travel worldwide needing ketchup on his sushi, his pad thai chicken and schnitzel? Classic Jock behaviour

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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56 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

This will depress @leicsmac and a few others. It depresses me. :cry:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/15/finland-emissions-target-forests-peatlands-sinks-absorbing-carbon-aoe

Oh, hey, it's one of those things the scientific community has been warning about for years.

 

It's deeply depressing, but better to parley that into a certain amount of anger and action to attempt to avert the worst of the consequences.

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SpacedX

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3 hours ago, The Doctor said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98y09n8201o

 

got to be a genuinely cartoonish level of evil to manage to pull the sort of shit even the blue Tories didn't, **** me.

Absolutely and if this had happened under Tory watch, which it probably would have done had they have clung to power, this forum would have been all over it. Job coaches? These aren't careers professionals and if it's anything like the ESA debacle under the Work Programme this will be tendered out to private sector welfare to work companies comprising the usual suspects such as Serco that don't give a toss about the individuals they recruit and even less so the 'clients' they work with and unscrupulously impose targets and reduce people to a mere numbers game. 

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Trav Le Bleu

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23 hours ago, Dunge said:

With regard to private schools:

 

I have nothing against going private for things if that’s how someone chooses to use their wealth, be that education, health, etc.

What I don’t understand is why they (private schools) should have a tax break for it. Removing it seems to me simply like reverting to a fairer system.

What I don't understand about private schools is why they're called public schools. :dunno:

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The Doctor

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2 hours ago, SpacedX said:

Absolutely and if this had happened under Tory watch, which it probably would have done had they have clung to power, this forum would have been all over it. Job coaches? These aren't careers professionals and if it's anything like the ESA debacle under the Work Programme this will be tendered out to private sector welfare to work companies comprising the usual suspects such as Serco that don't give a toss about the individuals they recruit and even less so the 'clients' they work with and unscrupulously impose targets and reduce people to a mere numbers game. 

the ethics of it are absolutely vile tbh, like you don't end up in hospital for mental health issues for something minor. The very last thing someone in hospital for mental health issues needs is someone from the DWP needling them to get back to work. genuine possibility that this idea causes suicides.

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Wymsey

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2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

the ethics of it are absolutely vile tbh, like you don't end up in hospital for mental health issues for something minor. The very last thing someone in hospital for mental health issues needs is someone from the DWP needling them to get back to work. genuine possibility that this idea causes suicides.

Why would it?

Wymsey

Wymsey

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17 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

because harassing people in mental health crises for not contributing enough to society can exacerbate those crises?

If the person from DWP or whoever genuinely cares about the individual, feels like employment can actually enhance the patient's wellbeing and makes the patient to feel valued then can't see why it's a fully bad idea.

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SpacedX

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5 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

If the person from DWP or whoever genuinely cares about the individual

They tend not to. They are merely a number. That is not to say that some of these coaches do not attempt to do the job from an ethical standpoint or are not natural empaths, but reducing people to pre-defined targets tends to conflict with this. 

 

9 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

feels like employment can actually enhance the patient's wellbeing 

And if they don't or it doesn't?

 

10 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

and makes the patient to feel valued then can't see why it's a fully bad idea.

They feel valued through being listened to by experienced mental health practitioners. Again, that is not the objective. 

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The Doctor

The Doctor

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14 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

If the person from DWP or whoever genuinely cares about the individual, feels like employment can actually enhance the patient's wellbeing and makes the patient to feel valued then can't see why it's a fully bad idea.

mental health facilities in this country are stretched to breaking point. if you're in one, it's because you are currently a danger to yourself or others - the moment you're not, you're getting discharged to make room for the next person. that is not a situation to be looking for work in

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grobyfox1990

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35 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

mental health facilities in this country are stretched to breaking point. if you're in one, it's because you are currently a danger to yourself or others - the moment you're not, you're getting discharged to make room for the next person. that is not a situation to be looking for work in

Been helping a close mate in the uk since Easter with mental health issues. He’s not a danger to himself or others tho. He’s been in the system since then and I must say the service has been superb. Bi-weekly home visits, specialist consultant appts, advice, prescriptions. Called the crisis line twice in the middle of a weekend night and they’ve spoken to him for hours. He’s clearly a minor case with so much family/friend support and he’s had this much attention. Hats off to the nhs in this case, incredible 

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