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st albans fox

st albans fox

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15 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I agree with you.

 

I've said all along that it's better for a thousand guilty men to remain unconvicted rather than one innocent man be found guilty, and that either applies in all areas, or none.

 

It's just the hope that the justice system can continue to develop and obtain more convictions for horrible crimes like these ones and so more victims can get the justice they deserve, while remaining true to the above principle.

Thinking deeply about this statement 

Zear0

Zear0

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1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Thinking deeply about this statement 

Yeah, not sure I agree, but couldn't ever put a number on it.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Thinking deeply about this statement 

For me, it shows a truly imperfect system, but every other system thought of so far is worse.

 

Like a lot of other human constructs, come to that.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, Zear0 said:

Yeah, not sure I agree, but couldn't ever put a number on it.

Thankfully, in practice, at least for the more horrible crimes, I would think the ratio is rather lower than that.

 

Sexual assaults are the rather sad exception to that rule.

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Sampson

Sampson

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To me, it’s as simple as this - I don’t ever want to live in a country where the state has the power to make a decision on the involuntary killing of its own citizens, because it only takes one rogue politician to harness that power for evil.
 

It’s the same argument I had against that vile law that Pritti Patel campaigned for to give the Home Secretary the power to shut down any protest they like, which is what led to those environmental protesters getting 5 years in prison. Just because it was a protest people don’t like they cheer it on, but once a legal precedent has been set it can be applied in a lot of unforeseen and potentially scary ways. If Farage’s mob get in, I’d hate to think what they do with those powers for example.

 

it’s easy for politicians to use emotional cases and causes to change laws and give them self scary powers that can be used elsewhere. 

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HighPeakFox

HighPeakFox

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If I could change the world, it would be to stop the particular tendency for certain male pack behaviour that wishes to reduce anyone or anything in their path to worthless underlings. 

Dunge

Dunge

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20 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Am not sure what to think of Musk.

 

Before seeing him on stage with Trump numerous times over the past few months, had expected him to be more charismatic and stronger in his speech as a business leader.

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A new MH370 search has been approved.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewxnwe5d11o

 

I think there are clear signs that there’s going to be a battle between the Republicans and Musk - they’ve accepted Trump being the charismatic (?) leader of the party but an outsider with his ear? It feels similar to what happened here with Boris and Dominic Cummings - the rest of the Conservative Party wanted him gone, and he was ‘got’ in the end one way or another.

 

Musk remains a very frustrating character to me. He could be great and leave a lasting legacy in pushing humanity forward to exploring space - I get the accusations that he’s a fraud but he could still be a leader, a driver and a figurehead even if they’re not his engineering ideas. Instead he spends his time messing around with Twitter because people hurt his feewings.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

If I could change the world, it would be to stop the particular tendency for certain male pack behaviour that wishes to reduce anyone or anything in their path to worthless underlings. 

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20 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Am not sure what to think of Musk.

 

Before seeing him on stage with Trump numerous times over the past few months, had expected him to be more charismatic and stronger in his speech as a business leader.

 

 

Pretty much what Dunge said above - the man could be Tony Stark but he's bound and determined to be Ted Faro.

Sampson

Sampson

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What Wymsey about expecting Musk to be a strong speaker confuses the heck out of me too though. When you see populists like Farage or Trump, you anssumr they are bound to be strong public speakers even if they lie a lot, they would need to be to get people on their side.
 

I assumed Musk would be the same when he first broke through a few years back, but now I’ve actually watched him, he’s such a mumbler and very uncharasmatic, awkward and nervous the whole time and a very uninspiring speaker. Even to those who agree with him politically, I can’t get my head round how he has such a devoted following or who hang on his every word.

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foxile5

foxile5

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24 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

Pretty much what Dunge said above - the man could be Tony Stark but he's bound and determined to be Ted Faro.

Nowhere near the (fictional) level of intellect of Tony Stark.

 

His rags to riches story started with a father who owned an apartheid emerald mine and his big business of Tesla is entirely someone else's work taken over with the fabulous riches that were already there. 

 

I get that he's a good business person - that much is undeniable - but this idea he's some polymath genius with his finger on the pulse of  technological development is a lot of positive PR. I also don't doubt that he's smarter than your average person, but this idea that he's single-handedly revoultionised the space and automotive industry is disingenuous. 

 

You'll notice with his purchase of Twitter the modus operandi for his businesses. He gets rid of 'inefficent' workers who also happen to be the workers that WON'T do 15 hour days 7 days a week and are not likely to object to his co-opting their ideas as his own. He recently was gobbing off about patents not being made public a weakness; that's because he doesn't have these ideas himself and it's more beneficial for him to 'share' innovation. If he started patenting, say, the steel used in SpaceX crafts then there might suddenly be a whole host of underling engineers who decide that, actually, they might like to have their input financially acknowledged. 

 

Easy to share when you're a billionaire and have a core staff of sycophantic work-a-holics to provide ideas for your creative milieu. 

 

 

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Zear0

Zear0

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4 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Nowhere near the (fictional) level of intellect of Tony Stark.

 

His rags to riches story started with a father who owned an apartheid emerald mine and his big business of Tesla is entirely someone else's work taken over with the fabulous riches that were already there. 

 

I get that he's a good business person - that much is undeniable - but this idea he's some polymath genius with his finger on the pulse of  technological development is a lot of positive PR. I also don't doubt that he's smarter than your average person, but this idea that he's single-handedly revoultionised the space and automotive industry is disingenuous. 

 

You'll notice with his purchase of Twitter the modus operandi for his businesses. He gets rid of 'inefficent' workers who also happen to be the workers that WON'T do 15 hour days 7 days a week and are not likely to object to his co-opting their ideas as his own. He recently was gobbing off about patents not being made public a weakness; that's because he doesn't have these ideas himself and it's more beneficial for him to 'share' innovation. If he started patenting, say, the steel used in SpaceX crafts then there might suddenly be a whole host of underling engineers who decide that, actually, they might like to have their input financially acknowledged. 

 

Easy to share when you're a billionaire and have a core staff of sycophantic work-a-holics to provide ideas for your creative milieu. 

 

 

He's also really shit at Path of Exile 2.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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"From here on out, you get to do what you've always been good at. Footing the bill while others get their hands dirty." - Elizabet, Horizon Zero Dawn.

 

That applies rather aptly to Musk, I think.

bmt

bmt

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Just now, TamworthFoxes said:

Charges finally announced against the Manchester Airport Police attackers.

 

No charges for the Police involved.

"BBC Verify's analysis of five social media videos of the fight, included one video, which appeared to show the officer who stamped on the man's head then approaching another man, stamping on his thigh and hitting him on the back of the head with a Taser.

Another officer appears to pepper-spray bystanders who are filming the incident.

The CPS said it had "concluded no charges should be brought against any officers" after examining evidence, reviewing "expert opinion" and taking into account police training."

 

Hahaha, wild.

grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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Musk is great at making big bets. No one would have the balls to go in with so much leverage on DJT, if cackling kamala won, he'd have been stuffed, but orangeman won and he now owns a country, with the UK coming next.

Also great at marketing, a very tough skills, cannot be understated. In my industry at a certain level the service and price is pretty much the same. So winning new business purely comes down to making people like you, hence we are tasked with going out drinking regularly. 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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17 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Musk is great at making big bets. No one would have the balls to go in with so much leverage on DJT, if cackling kamala won, he'd have been stuffed, but orangeman won and he now owns a country, with the UK coming next.

Also great at marketing, a very tough skills, cannot be understated. In my industry at a certain level the service and price is pretty much the same. So winning new business purely comes down to making people like you, hence we are tasked with going out drinking regularly. 

How accurate a summation of how vacuous part of human society is, right there.

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ajthefox

ajthefox

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45 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

New "overpriced shite Christmas event scandal" just dropped.

 

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STOP THE SLEIGHS!!


They've no right to go dashing through OUR snow!!!!

Lionator

Lionator

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1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Musk is becoming an actual Bond villain.

Him and Trump are going to war with Biden in his last few weeks, I think this shutdown business is about to get nasty. Like a final revenge episode.

Zear0

Zear0

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58 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

New "overpriced shite Christmas event scandal" just dropped.

 

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Not as bad as that pillock putting a photo of JV9 on the work tree. 

Torquay Gunner

Torquay Gunner

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1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Anyone else read this? Needless to say, it's bonkers

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/news/2024/dec/19/humphreys-world-how-the-samuel-smith-beer-baron-built-britains-strangest-pub-chain

A long, but interesting article on a genuine maverick.  I am sure you could write several books on this guy, but be prepared for the inevitable law suits that would follow. 

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