Premier League 2024/25

[Fear Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I think an absolutely punitive points deduction that de facto relegates them is more likely than that to be honest. Like Juventus in 2006.

Yes but rumours say its going to be a direct relegation decision to avoid more complicated appeal procedures. In fact some of the charges have a direct relegation punishment. 

[FoxTimmy2]

2 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

 

And that's only after 14.5 games  It's beyond ridiculous how they haven't fired Russell Martin yet.

Wow that's absolute shite.

[Lionator]

10 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

I don't think it will work like this. I'm afraid it's going to be an extra promotion from Championship. 

Not sure about that, given how the shareholder situation works. I absolutely could not see a team that finishes 17th once hypothetical points deduction are administered accepting relegation. 

[The Doctor]

13 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

I don't think it will work like this. I'm afraid it's going to be an extra promotion from Championship. 

no chance, it'll be a points deduction that makes 20th a certainty. if there's an extra promotion it'll be from the vanarama if the EFL reject Man City getting membership as a result of the financial offences

[Fear Of The Fox]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

Not sure about that, given how the shareholder situation works. I absolutely could not see a team that finishes 17th once hypothetical points deduction are administered accepting relegation. 

I agree but my argument is they're not going to have points deduction. The decision will be a direct relegation punishment if they're found guilty of 3 of the 115 charges. 

[Lionator]

Just now, Fear Of The Fox said:

I agree but my argument is they're not going to have points deduction. The decision will be a direct relegation punishment if they're found guilty of 3 of the 115 charges. 

So when Juventus got booted out of serie A in 2006, they were placed at the bottom of the table without deductions, and only two others got relegated instead of three. So one would assume that’s the precedent. 

[Guest Bilo]

7 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Yes but rumours say its going to be a direct relegation decision to avoid more complicated appeal procedures. In fact some of the charges have a direct relegation punishment. 

It would cause absolute carnage to relegate three teams plus Manchester City. The team who finishes 17th, and ends up going down, would have grounds for appeal and may very well win as they would only be relegated because of the wrongdoing of another team.

 

It makes far more sense for the PL to simply place Manchester City rock bottom and therefore take up one of the three standard relegation places.  

[Stevosevic]

11 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Yes but rumours say its going to be a direct relegation decision to avoid more complicated appeal procedures. In fact some of the charges have a direct relegation punishment. 

Would Pep have signed a new deal if they knew they were getting relegated though? 

[Finnegan]

They absolutely will not relegate / promote 4 teams.

 

If Man City go it'll be in 20th place. 

 

Let's be honest, it's a big if anyway and if they finally get Man City, we should probably start worrying about the punishments we've escaped. 

 

[Fear Of The Fox]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

So when Juventus got booted out of serie A in 2006, they were placed at the bottom of the table without deductions, and only two others got relegated instead of three. So one would assume that’s the precedent. 

Indeed but Serie A back then had different rules and the structure of the league wasn't the semi "closed/private" one we have here for both PL and EFL. 

Still I'm not ruling out your approach I'm just saying we're not very sure which rules are applying. 

[Guest Bilo]

5 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

no chance, it'll be a points deduction that makes 20th a certainty. if there's an extra promotion it'll be from the vanarama if the EFL reject Man City getting membership as a result of the financial offences

A points deduction of, say, 50-60 points could be argued to be survivable based on their previous seasons' performance. 

 

60 points last season would have put them on 31 points in 17th place, five clear of Luton Town.

[Fear Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Would Pep have signed a new deal if they knew they were getting relegated though? 

Managers contacts are the biggest joke in world employment. 

[Guest]

I find it quite hard to believe that they've found out for certain they're getting relegated without it subsequently being leaked anywhere

[FoyleFox]

18 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Yes but rumours say its going to be a direct relegation decision to avoid more complicated appeal procedures. In fact some of the charges have a direct relegation punishment. 

Really? They're likely to get a relegation penalty. Not doubting you but, I'd just assumed that it was highly unlikely they'll actually be found guilty of anything or if they are, the punishment will be minor. Perhaps I'm just that cynical. 

[The Doctor]

6 minutes ago, Bilo said:

A points deduction of, say, 50-60 points could be argued to be survivable based on their previous seasons' performance. 

 

60 points last season would have put them on 31 points in 17th place, five clear of Luton Town.

I mean with Southampton it'd have to be like 80 points for bottom. that said, it's been like 6 weeks of being utterly shit, no way have they learnt they're getting relegated and the verdict not leaked

[Lionator]

It doesn’t explain their form anyway. In some games they’ve quite simply crapped the bed.

[Matt]

Damn. 2-1 Palace.  

[spacemunky]

3-2 Brentford

[whoareyaaa]

Lol league is full of average teams this year bar Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea

[Spiritwalker]

Man City remind me of Southampton.

[FoxTimmy2]

1 minute ago, Spiritwalker said:

Man City remind me of Southampton.

[FrankieADZ]

25 minutes ago, Bilo said:

A points deduction of, say, 50-60 points could be argued to be survivable based on their previous seasons' performance. 

 

60 points last season would have put them on 31 points in 17th place, five clear of Luton Town.

reports saying the decision on the charges wont be this season.....imagine my shock

[Sly]

Manchester City look cooked

[Guest Bilo]

37 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Not sure about that, given how the shareholder situation works. I absolutely could not see a team that finishes 17th once hypothetical points deduction are administered accepting relegation. 

The Premier League wouldn't even be stupid enough to try that one, I suspect. Literally the only reason the 17th placed team would be relegated is due to the wrongdoing of Manchester City. CAS would just laugh at them.

[Nalis]

Fvck sake Man City stop being shit against our rivals. Or keep being shit when you play us please.

Edited 7 December 2024 by Nalis