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Him and Nelson need someone experienced and with genuine quality alongside them. Them two being together is never the answer. 

 

You need composure and reassurance and if not you need to be good at bailing yourself out which he struggles with too. That's before getting on the fact his passing ability is Sunday league.

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1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said:

It's been that bad recently that Amartey doesn't even get a mention anymore lol

Actually think Amartey was better.

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7 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Nelson is a much better footballer than Okoli and he has much more potential to improve too. 

He is not much better. Currently he's part of a defence that concedes on average 2 goals a game and he doesn't stand out at all. Someone pulled up the stats in a different thread. For defensive headers, interceptions, blocks and other stats per 90 mins - Okoli is better statistically.

 

Nelson is just lucky he's an academy graduate. A lot of people bigged him up earlier in the season and can't accept he isn't living up to it, so make excuses for him, or ignore his mistakes. Nelson is much better on the ball though.

 

They both need an experienced defender to help them.

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Just now, Guesty said:

He is not much better. Currently he's part of a defence that concedes on average 2 goals a game and he doesn't stand out at all. Someone pulled up the stats in a different thread. For defensive headers, interceptions, blocks and other stats per 90 mins - Okoli is better statistically.

 

Nelson is just lucky he's an academy graduate. A lot of people bigged him up earlier in the season and can't accept he isn't living up to it, so make excuses for him, or ignore his mistakes. Nelson is much better on the ball though.

 

They both need an experienced defender to help them.

Him being an academy player is irrelevant. Nelson can actually retain possession and is no worse at defending than Okoli. That makes him a better player IMO. Drop Okoli and start Lascelles 

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Not gonna get sucked in to the guff posted about Nelson on here, but him and Okoli are an awful partnership. Nelson desperately needs Lascelles or Vestergaard fit asap to actually get a chance. He’s a young lad constantly having to mop up a more senior Okoli’s mistakes. 

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16 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Nelson’s just as bad, at least Okoli and Faes were sometimes in the right place, Nelson is the missing man when a cross comes in, probably because is shocking at heading

I mean, other than on the grounds of relative youthfulness, I'm certainly not going to defend Nelson either. If you think he's worse then fine. It's a matter of which pap-splatter is the stinkiest.

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Just now, funkyrobot said:

Him being an academy player is irrelevant. Nelson can actually retain possession and is no worse at defending than Okoli. That makes him a better player IMO. Drop Okoli and start Lascelles 

It is relevant though. Cause people make excuses for him and over look his mistakes. Then Okoli gets all the blame. There's a reason after every game Okoli's thread has pages of posts but nobody posted in Nelson's thread for a month.

 

Neither of them are good enough currently, which is why we've conceded too many goals.

 

I agree Nelson is better. But they're not judged equally.

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8 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I mean, other than on the grounds of relative youthfulness, I'm certainly not going to defend Nelson either. If you think he's worse then fine. It's a matter of which pap-splatter is the stinkiest.

Both useless, with either of them in the team we are going down

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Bombscare of a player. 

 

I reckon Winks absolutely hates him. 

 

Constantly takes ages to pass the ball and when he does, sometimes it's a hospital pass and gets others into trouble. 

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2 minutes ago, Guesty said:

It is relevant though. Cause people make excuses for him and over look his mistakes. Then Okoli gets all the blame. There's a reason after every game Okoli's thread has pages of posts but nobody posted in Nelson's thread for a month.

 

Neither of them are good enough currently, which is why we've conceded too many goals.

 

I agree Nelson is better. But they're not judged equally.

Okoli got a lot of stick against Stoke but that’s because he was 100% responsible for the goal. If that had been Nelson he would’ve got stick for it. It is ultimately down to who looks the better footballer though. Nelson looks better on and off the ball. Watching a player who can barely kick a ball properly is a very difficult watch and those players are going to get more frustrated comments accordingly. The fact we have two non footballers in Okoli and Daka makes it even worse.

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20 minutes ago, sm1 said:

Actually think Amartey was better.

Definitely. For all his flaws, down the years you could pick out 20 or so decent performances from him at the highest level. You could stick Okoli in the Man City line-up week-in-out for a decade and he wouldn't manage that.

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3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Bombscare of a player. 

 

I reckon Winks absolutely hates him. 

 

Constantly takes ages to pass the ball and when he does, sometimes it's a hospital pass and gets others into trouble. 

Said it the other night, he looks like an athlete from another sport who's been asked to have a go at football, with the way he controls and passes the ball.

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3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Said it the other night, he looks like an athlete from another sport who's been asked to have a go at football, with the way he controls and passes the ball.

Like Daka then.

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