Lineker’s last season with MOTD

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Philkeavo said:

I think the BBC’s impartiality rules may say otherwise on the areas he is particularly passionate about. He’s a decent human being and I am proud he’s from Leicester.

Maybe so, but on a forum full of opinions from lay people with no reason to (necessarily) be taken seriously, it's a bit rich having one of them trying to tell him he should stick to his job. I might as well say that to everyone on here.

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

I know hes a City lad but he is abit of a knob and he's not as angelic as people think.

Hes got to remember hes just a sports presenter and not a World Leader which he thinks he is

I'm not sure where he thinks he's a world leader...?

 

He has an opinion on the Gaza genocide and is allowed to voice it. Like any of us. 

[kenny]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

I'm not sure where he thinks he's a world leader...?

 

He has an opinion on the Gaza genocide and is allowed to voice it. Like any of us. 

It is the use of the rat that is the issue not demonstrating support for people suffering in Gaza.

[StanSP]

3 minutes ago, kenny said:

It is the use of the rat that is the issue not demonstrating support for people suffering in Gaza.

He retweered it without realising the reference to 'rat'. Then deleted it. 

 

Move on. 

[kenny]

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

He retweered it without realising the reference to 'rat'. Then deleted it. 

 

Move on. 

Its amazing how knowledgeable he is on a subject and then all of a sudden has no idea. A more suspicious mind might think he does know and has only apologised to protect his job and reputation.

 

I don't need to move on as this sort of tweet simply affirms my fairly low opinion of him.

[Foxdiamond]

29 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Maybe so, but on a forum full of opinions from lay people with no reason to (necessarily) be taken seriously, it's a bit rich having one of them trying to tell him he should stick to his job. I might as well say that to everyone on here.

I suppose a difference might be that we are anonymous here. I regard Lineker as a Leicester and England great but I think his opinion is largely amplified because of his job at the BBC and this is a problem.  

[Finnegan]

You'd have to be pretty desperate to criticise Lineker and/or his beliefs to genuinely claim he's some sort of closet anti semite. 

 

[StanSP]

36 minutes ago, kenny said:

Its amazing how knowledgeable he is on a subject and then all of a sudden has no idea. A more suspicious mind might think he does know and has only apologised to protect his job and reputation.

 

I don't need to move on as this sort of tweet simply affirms my fairly low opinion of him.

Sounds like you now do need to move on then as you've had your affirmation

 

 

[StanSP]

25 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I suppose a difference might be that we are anonymous here. I regard Lineker as a Leicester and England great but I think his opinion is largely amplified because of his job at the BBC and this is a problem.  

Is it intensified because BBC have become alot more draconian recently, and their coverage is quite biased? 

 

I don't get why people have a go at Lineker just because he decides to voice his opinion. Whether he's on BBC, MOTD shouldn't matter. 

 

He shouldn't be silenced. 

[kenny]

6 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Sounds like you now do need to move on then as you've had your affirmation

 

 

Im sure he will have another chance to demonstrate why im not a big fan of his!

 

As for him not being silenced, no one is silencing him. He made a personal decision to take the tweet down once he realised the negative backlash. He wasn't forced in any way, if he was comfortable with it or comfortable with the resulting opinion, then he would have left it up.

 

 

[StanSP]

3 minutes ago, kenny said:

Im sure he will have another chance to demonstrate why im not a big fan of his!

 

As for him not being silenced, no one is silencing him. He made a personal decision to take the tweet down once he realised the negative backlash. He wasn't forced in any way, if he was comfortable with it or comfortable with the resulting opinion, then he would have left it up.

 

 

That makes no sense then. If its been highlighted to him by someone or other that the 'rat' is a negative reference, and he's taken it down, that's a good thing right? 

 

But then if he's left it up after that fact, he'd get criticised still? So in your mind he can't win . 

 

So clearly he's not comfortable with it and has done the right thing? 

[Foxdiamond]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Is it intensified because BBC have become alot more draconian recently, and their coverage is quite biased? 

 

I don't get why people have a go at Lineker just because he decides to voice his opinion. Whether he's on BBC, MOTD shouldn't matter. 

 

He shouldn't be silenced. 

I don't think I would like to see an increase in political views expressed by lots of entertainment and sports stars that work at the BBC. 

[kenny]

17 minutes ago, StanSP said:

That makes no sense then. If its been highlighted to him by someone or other that the 'rat' is a negative reference, and he's taken it down, that's a good thing right? 

 

But then if he's left it up after that fact, he'd get criticised still? So in your mind he can't win . 

 

So clearly he's not comfortable with it and has done the right thing? 

I think he has done the right thing by taking it down.

 

I also think he is an intelligent and learned chap who knows what it means. 

 

If he doesn't know what it means, then I am surprised that he isn't more careful with what he re-posts on twitter.

[David Hankey]

Presumably, when he eventually leaves the BBC, we'll hear a lot more from him on an array of subjects.

 

I wonder if he's considering furthering his career as a politician?

[volpeazzurro]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

I'm not sure where he thinks he's a world leader...?

 

He has an opinion on the Gaza genocide and is allowed to voice it. Like any of us. 

Not if he's signed a contract to say that he won't and the use of anti Semetic imagery is hardly the sign of a decent individual. 

[StanSP]

22 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Not if he's signed a contract to say that he won't and the use of anti Semetic imagery is hardly the sign of a decent individual. 

Even if it's accidental? 

 

I'd be surprised if he signed a contract to say he can't voice his opinion on global matters. 

[bovril]

38 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Not if he's signed a contract to say that he won't and the use of anti Semetic imagery is hardly the sign of a decent individual. 

I think he's not particularly bright so I doubt he thought about the imagery. His takes are mostly quite banal and cringy

[Uncle Monty]

I didn't know that a rat is a historical reference to the persecution of Jewish people either to be fair. Probably should have looked more closely about what he's posting if it's on a particularly touchy subject as the message he's trying to get across just gets lost.

[HighPeakFox]

For anyone wanting to experience actual, deliberate, hateful, anti semitism, follow Michael Rosen and look at the comments he receives.

 

This might have been a mistake, quickly corrected and admitted. There are plenty who are saying the worst stuff, in the worst way, out loud, and they tend not to share Lineker's politics.

[purpleronnie]

You could always not follow him on social media, then not have to worry about being so upset about someone having a different opinion than you.

[StanSP]

37 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

For anyone wanting to experience actual, deliberate, hateful, anti semitism, follow Michael Rosen and look at the comments he receives.

 

This might have been a mistake, quickly corrected and admitted. There are plenty who are saying the worst stuff, in the worst way, out loud, and they tend not to share Lineker's politics.

And also don't take responsibility or delete their hateful speech when called out upon it. They're actually vile... 

[splinterdream]

On 18/11/2024 at 10:22, AKCJ said:

I'd love MOTD to be just highlights with a mid-week programme that rivals Sky's MNF to go more in depth. 

Used to love that sunday show on Sky with Kammy, he'd really go into in depth analysis with a manager or player on the sofa, discussing all the contentious issues.

[iancognito]

12 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Used to love that sunday show on Sky with Kammy, he'd really go into in depth analysis with a manager or player on the sofa, discussing all the contentious issues.

Goals on Sunday wasn't it?

[splinterdream]

16 minutes ago, iancognito said:

Goals on Sunday wasn't it?

Aye that was it. I don't understand why BBC wouldn't want to do a show like that. 

[bovril]

I have noticed quite a few of my acquaintances will endorse or repost literally anything that has an anti-Zionist message on social media without any evaluation of the source or the imagery and wording, even some stuff that is quite clearly dodgy. It could be that they are genuinely antisemitic but I think most just don't engage in any kind of critical thinking before chasing madly after the dopamine rush of likes. Like a pheasant that's nearly been hit by cars five times in a minute who decides to cross the road again because they see something shiny on the other side.